Posted on 03/28/2013 12:21:53 PM PDT by haffast
I love this man.
He appears to be the real deal, a servant rather than a master.
"Don't lose hope," he said. "Understand? With hope you can always go on."Amen, Pope Francis, Amen! ♥
For a take on how some traditionalist Catholics view Francis’ Maundi Thursday Mass, check out this blog:
http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2013/03/for-record-girl-among-12-inmates-whose.html
I came back to the church after years of apostacy and am facinated by the discussions of so-called traditionalist Catholics. Frankly, they seem to be the only ones who will engage in dialogue on issues such as where the Tabernacle should be placed. When I asked my parish priest that question, he almost jumped out of his vestments and literally ran off!
The Holy Thursday foot-washing is not a Sacrament (and the Church cannot change the matter of a Sacrament ---- ever: it does not have the authority). It is a (small s) "sacramental," which means the Pope certainly has the option to include women, without implying the whole structure of sex, gender and Natural Law is going to come crashing down on our heads!!
¡Viva Papa Francisco!
I’m not Catholic - but I can understand some of these people’s adverse reactions to the Pope’s washing of their feet. Not that I agree - just understand.
The Apostles were pretty taken aback when Jesus first washed THEIR feet.
Muslims??? No..no,,,no. Not a good sign.
That said, the GIRM clearly uses 'viri', that is 'men' for the Washing of the Feet. This is just an option for Holy Thursday and need not be done at all. However, if one is going to do it, one should stick to the General Instructions. If the leader does not, it simply gives license to all to do exactly as they please.
Further, washing the feet of a 12 year old Muslim girl might not be the wisest thing to do.
It's likely you know more about canons and rubrics than I do (it wouldn't be hard to know more than I do, because this is an area of vast ignorance on my part!) But I was under the impression that a Pope's liturgical directions would take precedence over anybody else's, except for things that are strictly dogmata, e.g. the validity of the form or matter of a Sacrament.
Is not the Pope the chief liturgical authority of the Church? Does he not have this authority?
My concern is that a major deviation from such a clear instruction will give the green light to those who are inclined to invent a liturgy to be more inventive. Soon we would have a ghastly mess.
The HF is welcome to wash as many feet as he desires but on Holy Thursday it might be best to follow the rules and thus encourage Holy Obedience throughout the Universal Church.
(you knew there ws going to be a "but," right?)...
...but on this issue of the Washing of Feminine Feet, in my (ignorant and reformable) opinion, it is not Pope Francis who is giving scandal, but the anti-papist* wing of the Rad Trads.
Gol-lee, with fideles like these, who needs the sensus infidelium?! It's hard enough here on Free Republic dealing with wolfpacks of sado-evangelicals, and now this?! (No, dear reader, of course I do not mean you.)
Tax-chick, I look always to you for a whiff of sanity. What do you say?
Also --- is this devious? --- I see a larger rhetorical strategy which will enable him to then turn on a dime and do something rad-orthodox and fry liberals' brains by fully applying the Gospel concept known as "sign of contradiction".
And I mean that in the Gospellest possible sense.
I guess we will just pray and stayed tuned. Blessed Triduum to you and the Mister.
Thank you pbear8, affectionate greetings to your pbear tribe, and most happy blessings of the Triduum to you.
Oh, and BTW I meant “GIRM.” Some of my typos are truly cringeworthy.
I have always thought that GRIM was funny.
And even more taken aback when Jesus said they needed to eat His body and drink His blood. That was a major Yikes! for them.
And the real identity of each soul is not man or woman as manifested in this earthly realm.
In the Kingdom of God we will have our real, eternal identities which may be very different from the guises we now appear in.
A Muslim girl is not eternall a Muslim girl. Underneath or rather, inside, the earthly tent, lives the eternal soul.
God bless you, LJ. I prayed for (with?) you consciously tonight at my parish, which had a beautiful Holy Thursday liturgy. And our pastor washed feminine feet as well: not mine, but there were were some little Señoritas up there, solemn little brown girls with the cleanest feet!
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