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Hagel says U.S. has to take North Korean threats seriously
Reuters ^ | 28 Mar 13 | David Alexander

Posted on 03/28/2013 7:02:03 PM PDT by SkyPilot

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said on Thursday that North Korea's provocative actions and belligerent tone had "ratcheted up the danger" on the Korean peninsula, but he denied that the United States had aggravated the situation by flying stealth bombers to the region.

"We have to take seriously every provocative, bellicose word and action that this new young leader has taken so far" since coming to power, Hagel told a Pentagon news conference, referring to Kim Jong-un.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chuckhagel; hagel; loons; military; northkorea; sequestration; signofweakness Comment #1 Removed by Moderator

To: SkyPilot

If only we can take Hagel seriously.


2 posted on 03/28/2013 7:04:32 PM PDT by chopperman
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To: SkyPilot

North Korea may even try to start their WWII vintage tanks soon...


3 posted on 03/28/2013 7:05:06 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: SkyPilot

Make things in America again.

Just saying.

You cannot support a military to lead the world, without industry.


4 posted on 03/28/2013 7:07:12 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: SkyPilot

Hey, leave North Korea alone!!!! The stock market goes UP every time they threaten to do something. Are you folks stupid, or what?


5 posted on 03/28/2013 7:09:52 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: SkyPilot

Hagel reminds me of the incompetent Secretary of Interior turned President in the movie ‘By Dawns Early Light’


6 posted on 03/28/2013 7:21:40 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: 2banana

Norks better start gettin to fixin all the broke-down and shoddily maintained rusty soviet artillery they have there.

I wonder about half of that crap won’t even fire, misfires, or can’t fire (de-facto constructed decoys).


7 posted on 03/28/2013 7:30:24 PM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: SkyPilot; Revolting cat!

Let’s try another 65 years of sanctions and UN intervention. What could POSSIBLY go wrong?


8 posted on 03/28/2013 7:39:40 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: SkyPilot

nUKE THE ENEMY BEFORE THE ENEMY NUKES U.S., WHILE WE STILL HAVE THE CHANCE!

The Korean War ended because of one reasone ONLY.............On May 19 1953, the Joint Chiefs recommended direct air and naval operations against China, including the use of nuclear weapons. The National Security Council endorsed the JCS recommendation the next day.

Dulles, the Secretary of State was visiting India and told Nehru to deliver a message to Zhou Enlai: if peace was not speedily attained, the United States would begin to bomb north of Yalu, and US had recently tested atomic shells.

wow, what would happen if SOUTH KOREA got nukes? Great Idea for U.S. Make it happen.


9 posted on 03/28/2013 7:40:46 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: 2banana
“We’re going to have to deal with that reality, and that means we’re going to have to prioritize and make some cuts and do what we got to do,” Mr. Hagel said. To meet the spending decrease, he said, the Pentagon will sharply cut payments for operating its bases in the United States as well as reduce training for troops — but only for those troops not preparing to deploy overseas into combat. At the same news conference, Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, noted that the spending reductions being imposed on the Pentagon are not the deepest in history, but they are the swiftest because they are being imposed halfway through the fiscal year. “It’s the steepest decline in our budget ever,” General Dempsey said. He said that by Monday, the Defense Department will have spent 80 percent of its operating funds under the reduced spending plan. “We don’t yet have a satisfactory solution to that shortfall, and we’re doing everything we can to stretch our readiness out,” General Dempsey said. He described a process in which the Defense Department “will have to trade, at some level and to some degree, our future readiness for current operations.”

The North Koreans put the hurt on us pretty good with their vintage weapons before.

You can do a lot of damage when you are fanatical and do not care at all about your own men.

They don't have to win, just hurt us very badly. Do you think China will stand by if we start advancing up the peninsula again?

10 posted on 03/28/2013 7:43:07 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: chopperman

You can’t rule out the possibility that North Korea will do something really stupid, and this time South Korea will retaliate. And away we go.


11 posted on 03/28/2013 7:43:56 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
You cannot support a military to lead the world, without industry.

Don't worry, the Sequester is also destroying our defense industrial base and workforce.

12 posted on 03/28/2013 7:44:24 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

General MacArthur was right.


13 posted on 03/28/2013 7:45:39 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk
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To: chopperman
Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel

We are so screwed

14 posted on 03/28/2013 8:15:10 PM PDT by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: PIF
The Cold War just got reheated.

http://beforeitsnews.com/war-and-conflict/2013/03/north-korea-declares-war-on-the-us-and-south-korea-2445690.html

15 posted on 03/28/2013 9:09:06 PM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: SkyPilot
NK is an evil regime. The abuse of political prisoners is horrendous.


16 posted on 03/28/2013 10:11:26 PM PDT by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: SkyPilot; a fool in paradise

An editorial in today’s WSJ about the leadership vacuum in the world today, which is something that historically provokes major wars. The fool in the White Hut will “lead” us into one before long, while the pederasts, the abortionists, Obamafoam users, and teacher’s unions applaud. The Norks see it, know it, and are playing it. The Gay Leader, or whatever the baby Kim’s nick, is smarter than than the Hahvard graduate U.S. POTUS, you can bet.


17 posted on 03/28/2013 10:19:48 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

War will happen and the real leaders will come and fill the vacuum, clean up, win, somewhat of peace will prevail and we’ll will become complacent again. History repeats itself.


18 posted on 03/28/2013 11:57:29 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028
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To: SkyPilot
re

TRANSCOM commander: Sequester already starting to hurt military readiness
Aircraft Carriers: How Budget Cuts Delay Overhauls And Trim The Fleet
Stars and Stripes - Sequestration kicks in: 'The pain will be real'

Obama Administration Unblocks $500 Million For Palestinian Authority

If ONE American dies because the U.S. military has been shortchanged due to the BULL SPIT sequester cutbacks, Obama and his administration BELONG IN GITMO.

19 posted on 03/29/2013 12:29:10 AM PDT by Yehuda
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To: Daffynition
" There is only one thing left for North korea to do and thats to actually start armed conflict. There is nothing left for them to do."

He may be right this time.

Good thing our military is in worse shape with each passing day. But don't worry America - your co-pay on your presription is free and your millions upon millions of EBT cards are re-loaded with good ole CA$H on April 1st.


20 posted on 03/29/2013 3:34:08 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Yehuda
If ONE American dies because the U.S. military has been shortchanged due to the BULL SPIT sequester cutbacks, Obama and his administration BELONG IN GITMO.

I have no doubts about the evil who is Obama. What is especially hard to take is the betrayal by Republicans who have abandoned the military.

In sequestration, president and Congress undermining military

Ronald Reagan would be shocked to see the behavior of our current Republican "leadership" regarding the military.

They have been undermining it for years, and the assaults are simply continuing. The Congress agreed to not only the $487 Billion in cuts over ten years that started in 2010 (and are now taking effect with horrific momentum), but the Republicans made a 180 degree turn after their Williamsburg VA "retreat" meeting and decided to allow the military to be decimated by the Sequester. They sacrificed the military on the altar of politics - not once, but twice.

Shame on all of them.


21 posted on 03/29/2013 3:41:37 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: chopperman
Hagel says U.S. has to take North Korean threats seriously

Ok, I'll do it.

NOW what?

22 posted on 03/29/2013 4:19:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: chopperman
NOW what?

Goodwill flights???




23 posted on 03/29/2013 4:21:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: chopperman

NK has not been taken seriously by Obama yet


24 posted on 03/29/2013 10:37:13 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: chopperman

Hagel will take threats seriously as long as they are not issued by Muslims.

If a Muslim nation utters a threat, it “never happened.”

Hagel is champing at the bit to drone the Norkies.It would be a huge mistake to engage the Norkies in even limited ground warfare.It would be a mistake of vast proportions to bomb them unless it was total warfare. But Hagel wants to leave his “mark.”

What North Korea wants is lots of food, high tech, and goods produced in South Korea. Just send over a few shiploads per month.It would be cheaper than fighting the insane effers.

Let the trade talks begin.


25 posted on 03/29/2013 11:48:01 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Daffynition

The Norks just want to start a war so they can lose and get free stuff from the US.

Give them Kim Chi.


26 posted on 03/29/2013 3:06:32 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: TomasUSMC

27 posted on 03/29/2013 3:25:37 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (The Old White Flag Republicans can go straight to He// and take their pal Obama with them!)
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To: chopperman
If only we can take Hagel seriously.


obviously the North Koreans don't take him seriously

28 posted on 03/29/2013 10:06:08 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Candor7

Because Danegeld or jizya like the US paid to the Barbary states is always a great idea...


29 posted on 03/30/2013 2:34:27 PM PDT by LastNorwegian
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To: chopperman

Boy if we had a real man in the WH like Regan we wouldn’t have to deal with this crap...What a joke this country’s become because of that bastard in the WH.


30 posted on 03/30/2013 2:36:39 PM PDT by 1217Chic
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To: chopperman

Is this he crisis he needs in order to suspend the Constitution and declare martial law? Hmmmmm?


31 posted on 03/30/2013 3:33:59 PM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (It only takes one to start hostilities. It takes two to agree to end them.)
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To: chopperman

I suspect the threat is serous. although i have no confenetce in either Obama or Hagel’s inclination to deal with it given their past predisposition toward North Korea allowing it to get this far in the first place.

When North Korea finally does blow its top we will be in a crises to deal with a mess that should have been dealt with years ago.


32 posted on 03/30/2013 11:33:09 PM PDT by Monorprise (`)
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To: SkyPilot

“Don’t worry, the Sequester is also destroying our defense industrial base and workforce.”

I doubt that very much. The military will have more money tomorrow than they did today. It is only incompetents if they can’t make do with what they already have today tomorrow.


33 posted on 03/30/2013 11:35:59 PM PDT by Monorprise (`)
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To: SkyPilot

In the long run the Federal military is more of a threat than an asset.

We are also going to have to come to terms with the fact that in a decade we won’t have enough money to fund the military hardly at all. The Costs of interest on the debt will be too prohibitive.


34 posted on 03/30/2013 11:40:24 PM PDT by Monorprise (`)
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To: Monorprise
The military will have more money tomorrow than they did today.

Again, not true - but I see that time and time again, you do not deal with factual information.


35 posted on 03/31/2013 4:29:36 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Monorprise
In the long run the Federal military is more of a threat than an asset.

What an incredible statement of disrespect and contempt for those who have served this nation.

The US military is not the TSA. Take your anger elsewhere.

We are also going to have to come to terms with the fact that in a decade we won’t have enough money to fund the military hardly at all. The Costs of interest on the debt will be too prohibitive.

The military is now, with the 2011 cuts and with Sequestration, less that 17% of the budget and approaching 2% of GDP - historic lows on both fronts.

It is not military spending that is bankrupting this nation - it is Entitlements. Try telling the Medicare and Social Security crowd that there must be small reforms, and watch the verbal attacks fly.

36 posted on 03/31/2013 4:34:33 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
your co-pay on your prescription is free

Actually it went up twenty percent over last year, which up twenty percent over the year before.

37 posted on 03/31/2013 4:55:11 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Promotional Fee Paid for by "Ouchies" The Sharp, Prickly Toy You Bathe With!)
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To: chopperman

“If only we can take Hagel seriously.”

I agree with you!!


38 posted on 03/31/2013 8:42:50 PM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: Flick Lives

Amen brother


39 posted on 03/31/2013 9:31:16 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: SkyPilot

“What an incredible statement of disrespect and contempt for those who have served this nation.”

I’m afraid I mean no disrespect, in my implication that the Federal military is a professional force structured to above all else follow orders, not uphold the Constitution.

“The US military is not the TSA. Take your anger elsewhere.”
Perhaps not, but do you have any doubt that if so ordered by congress & the present that the Federal military would not act just aggressive as the TSA?

If you think they wouldn’t i’m sorry to say you are sadly mistaken. As I said before, the military is structured to carry out orders(whatever they are) not uphold constitutional law.

I have no doubt that the Federal military’s ranks are filled with many great patriots. The composition and patriotism of the majority of the army, air-force, and Navy is not in fact at issue.


“The military is now, with the 2011 cuts and with Sequestration, less that 17% of the budget and approaching 2% of GDP - historic lows on both fronts.”

Historic lows? My dear SkyPilot there was a time when we had no standing Federal army at all. 1000 men would not be a historic low!

We were not then nor would we be at such a point defenseless, we have State militia(national guard) forces which were always intended to form the peace time standing force of theses united States for the precise reason that they were not so easy marshaled by Washington against the people & their states.

Im sorry to say SkyPilot that as much as we may not like it, the way things are going now we need to return to that scheme before your Federal military really is ordered to wage a treasonous war upon its own States & people.

Theses are not happy times, and unfortuantly things look very much like they will get worse in the coming decades.


40 posted on 03/31/2013 11:43:06 PM PDT by Monorprise (`)
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