Skip to comments.Facebook boy-with-gun pic: Governor wants investigation
Posted on 03/28/2013 8:24:51 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
You thought it was all done bar the noisy debating. And even that was abating.
But not just yet.
After Shawn Moore posted a Facebook picture of his 11-year-old son, Josh, with a fetching .22 rifle, child-protection experts and police arrived.
Moore, of Carneys Point, N.J., was outraged. So was his lawyer. The police wanted to enter his house and examine the safe where he kept his guns. They wanted to know that his son would be safe.
The police, though, had no warrant.
Subsequently, the authorities explained that there was a heightened sensitivity, after the Newtown massacre.
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie is, however, not satisfied.
According to Fox News, the governor has asked his state's attorney general, Jeffrey Chiesa, to investigate "whether all applicable laws were appropriately followed, and to take any remedial, investigative, or other actions that may be required."
The governor is disturbed by reports that members of the Division of Child Protection and Permanency offered an excessively assertive attitude. The Department of Youth and Family Services has maintained its silence, citing confidentiality.
Moore's lawyer denies having asked for any further action to be taken, but he says he's happy for the matter to be fully examined.
He added, to Fox News, this cheery thought: "There's this really great reason why there's no charges and the case is closed, and that's because my client didn't do anything wrong."
Perhaps Christie's investigation will conclude that procedures weren't followed. Perhaps someone will be reprimanded, or worse.
However, when it comes to an emotive issue such as guns, there will still be those who believe that images such as the one posted by Moore will always incite heightened reactions, both for and against.
The police, it seems, have begun to provide their own details, prior to this investigation.
The Philadelphia Daily News reports today that police described Moore as "ranting" and being both aggressive and arrogant when they visited.
Worse, police said Moore smelled of alcohol and suggested that his wife, Julie, was none too pleased with her husband.
The police report, obtained by the Daily News, reads: "While we were waiting, Julie stood and spoke to us stating, Shawn has not been the same person since President Obama was elected. She stated he is obsessed with gun control, owning weapons, and his right to bear arms. Julie seemed embarrassed at her husband's behavior, however, she did not seem surprised."
Perhaps, then, any investigation by the attorney general might unearth even more polarizing facts and accusations.
I wonder if it will be finally revealed which of his Facebook friends contacted the police. That should be a polarizing piece of information.
He needs to ditch Julie, she can’t be trusted.
“Subsequently, the authorities explained that there was a heightened sensitivity, after the Newtown massacre.”
Sensitivity...I believe that overrides the 4th Amendment.
Agreed. (Rest of post redacted.)
Given the history or how NJ politicians do business, I would take it to mean someone is going to get a promotion.
Any excuse to kick down a door to violate your 4th amendment rights. At some point, they’ll kick down the wrong door, and it will cost them, dearly.
Let’s see.... the Police and Child Services got their @sses handed to them, and we are to believe their report?
I had one like that, nothing worse.
They’ve only been married since 2009, she looks a lot younger than he does.
I would not be so quick to believe anything the cops leaked to the press.
Any excuse for a tyrant.
A wife like that often tends to speed up the aging process in the guy.
Sadly, the aforementioned relief isn't predicated solely on the reported persona of 'Julie' .. the published description is merely illustrative of the disloyalty of countless tens of thousands just like 'her'.
She'll be dumping the guy within the next year or two, dollars to donuts.
That’s for sure!
This is a spoof story, right. I got my first .22 at 10 yeasrs old. I think I still have a pic of me shooting it.
Should I post the pic to YouTube and see if child protective services shows up?
If true, I would certainly consider that grounds for a divorce. However, knowing that there are cops out there who will write anything in an official report to justify their actions, etc., I am unwilling to jump on the “dump her now” bandwagon.
Oh that explains it. The guy was ranting, ranting against government officials trying to illegally search his home. Ranting in defense of the constitution. Ranting against idiotic people that have no concept of the law and can’t make a rational decision that a boy with a gun is not illegal.
Exactly what are they doing watching YouTube anyhow?
How many government employees are monitoring FR? You can bet they are.
What’s wrong with Alinsky? The tactics work. When working an issue his guidance is a big help.
What do you do when you go to a local council meeting, just figure your three minutes at the public speaker podium is the only tool in your box?
Hey ATF, eff you!
Thanx babe. She’s not a keeper.
None of which is illegal.
I highly doubt this subjective enhancement of the tale by the police is true or worth the ink it took to write it.
Besides, what kind of mother isn't first worried about a DYFS person threatening to take her kid from the house.
Knowing NJ, this is CYA by the cops--they know they stepped in it bigtime, and need to justify what they did, as they are not used to any kind of resistance--especially the legal resistance shouted at them by the lawyer on the phone.
This is precisely why you don't say anything to cops without a lawyer present. Whatever you say, even innocently, can and WILL be used against you.
The Philadelphia Daily News is one of the last newspapers I would trust.
Good grief, that paper is the retarded little sister of the communist Philadelphia Inquirer.
If I faced a similar situation, with cops and affirmative action “child services” mice beating down my door and demanding to see my gun safe, I’d be “ranting, WTF!”, too.
You better be careful. Big brother is watching
“If true, I would certainly consider that grounds for a divorce. However, knowing that there are cops out there who will write anything in an official report to justify their actions, etc., I am unwilling to jump on the dump her now bandwagon.”
If the police can drive a wedge between a man and his wife, they have them. I have seen it happen. They push for just the least hint of “domestic violence”, then pounce.
I am told that threatening to take the children if a request for a protective order is not filed - there goes guns, house, maybe job - is a standard ploy.
I know. It’s very sad.
That crap happens all too often. Cops should know better.
I bet the cops here would stain their undies if they saw my daughter a few years ago. I took her hunting and on the way home I let her pop a couple into a bank (dirt) armed with a .243 w/ scope. She enjoyed it.