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Commentary Magazine: Time to Get Serious (About Barak Obama )
commentarymagazine ^ | April 2013 | John Podhoretz

Posted on 03/29/2013 10:42:50 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Barack Obama is a serious man. Yes, he likes to golf, and yes, he ran a campaign with cutesy Facebook pictures and seemingly inane Flash slideshows like “Life of Julia.” No, he does not seem interested in the mechanics of legislation, nor does he seem adept at negotiation. But the weird condescension his opponents display toward him is ludicrously wrongheaded. They seem eager to believe he is a lightweight, and he is not. Obama is very possibly a world-historical political figure, and until those who oppose him come to grips with this fact, they will get him wrong every time.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: energy; obama; obamacare; obamalegacy

1 posted on 03/29/2013 10:42:50 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

TIME magazine headline, 1947:

“Hitler wasn’t a really gifted general. However, he did get a lot done militarily so that counts for something.”


2 posted on 03/29/2013 10:47:47 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The article ultimately has no point except to claim there’s no way to successfully criticize Obama.


3 posted on 03/29/2013 10:48:38 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If it wasn’t for a complacent republican house, Obama couldn’t pull all this crap. We knew what Obama would do but we at least expected a fight.


4 posted on 03/29/2013 10:49:23 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: jjotto
Closing LINE:

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Barack Obama is a serious man. The professional and political right needs to be as serious as he is to make sure the Age of Obama ends with him.

5 posted on 03/29/2013 10:51:20 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If we had an UNbiased media, 0bama would still be picketing in Chicago with the Black Panthers as a community organizer.


6 posted on 03/29/2013 10:51:44 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Obama seemed bored in his first term, because he was. His handlers had him trying to govern. Obama isn’t smart enough for that. Obama is cunning. Obama’s training as a community organizer makes him quite skilled in subversion.

This term, Obama’s handlers have let him go, or perhaps, with nothing to lose, Obama has chosen his direction. Obama is crushing conservatives, and ruling the Chicago way. I would present his de facto gun control as an example. No executive order, no legislation, simply have DHS buy up all the ammunition.

Until/unless there is a real leader to fight this piece of human garbage, we as a nation are totally screwed.


7 posted on 03/29/2013 10:52:22 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Oh, and.. 0bama lies, Holder lies, Napolitano lies, Rice lies, Hillary lies.. AND THE MEDIA LIES FOR THEM.


8 posted on 03/29/2013 10:54:33 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The professional and political right is serious. The Republican Party moderate establishment is not serious.


9 posted on 03/29/2013 10:54:56 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Obama is very possibly a world-historical political figure”

YEP, RIGHT UP THERE WITH MAO, HITLER & STALIN, but actually more of a 3rd world Punk-Tyrant like Chavez or Castro.


10 posted on 03/29/2013 10:55:21 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If you think this deserves MAXIMUM BARF WARNING, imagine the fawning history books that will be hitting the market the minute Boy Wonder and Queen Moo are out of the White House.

Seriously - I do expect Obama to be pushed on future generations as one of the top one or two prsidents of all time.

Just consiider how the history and accomplishments of Lincoln, JFK and MLK have been inflated and how they have been pushed on the country.


11 posted on 03/29/2013 11:02:14 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

There are lies, damn lies and Obama.


12 posted on 03/29/2013 11:05:12 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
...he does not seem interested in the mechanics of legislation, nor does he seem adept at negotiation. But the weird condescension his opponents display toward him...

It is called the Mystery of Evil.

13 posted on 03/29/2013 11:05:42 AM PDT by Slyfox (The Key to Marxism is Medicine ~ Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
If we had an UNbiased media, 0bama would still be picketing in Chicago with the Black Panthers as a community organizer.

If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

If I were King, I'd grant you three wishes...IF

14 posted on 03/29/2013 11:06:33 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Later.


15 posted on 03/29/2013 11:07:22 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Obama does not have rare skill or political genius.

He is inept in many ways. The only reason the far left is seeing some of its goals accomplished for now is because they’ve decided on a no holds barred lie at all costs way of doing things.

It wouldn’T matter who was in the Oval Office. The media now lies at every turn about everything. That’s the only reason Obama is where he is.


16 posted on 03/29/2013 11:09:53 AM PDT by what's up
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To: brownsfan
Until/unless there is a real leader to fight this piece of human garbage, we as a nation are totally screwed.

Been saying America if finished as a Constitutional land of the free for years. I could see how this communists BLACK piece of garbage would destroy America if he got the second term. Romney in his place would at least returned to an effective Senate and House and good business practices would have done much to stop the communists from taking over America. I got lots of hell from the uninformed and many so called conservatives telling me I was nuts and America would never become controlled by the communists. To those nuts, explain where we are and have gone and no real stopping. Currently we have no real stopping power but just fancy words, and without works, words will do nothing. America is being screwed and little can be done unless we get the Senate and keep the House in 2014.

17 posted on 03/29/2013 11:10:14 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: broken_arrow1

He’s been trained for this his entire life and he’s dishonest, arrogant and greedy enough to have no conscience about lying to the world. I believe his whole environmental crap, not to mention his foreign policy, is paid for by the Arabs who also paid for his education and who knows what else.

His “election” was a coup - right in our faces. Many of his voters we bought off with our own money. What would have seemed unthinkable and outrageous 20 years ago is now tolerated as business as usual. Despite 9/11.


18 posted on 03/29/2013 11:12:05 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

lol

world historical figure!?!?

ROFL! oh man! I needed a good laugh today!

maybe then meant historical fuckup! like Chamberlain!!


19 posted on 03/29/2013 11:12:16 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Podhoretz has it wrong of course. Not many regard Obama with condescension in the way Podhoretz means.

If Obama is just another Democrat president who doesn’t represent a threat to historical America as McCain, Romney, Rove and many FReepers claim, then GOPe is right and most FReepers are wrong.

Perhaps Podhoretz is just waking to the severity of the threat and is alarmed at the paucity of real opposition to Obama, but can’t yet bring himself to admit that the “extremists” are right.


20 posted on 03/29/2013 11:21:47 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Obama makes Hitler look like a choirboy.


21 posted on 03/29/2013 11:27:32 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: brownsfan

“No executive order, no legislation, simply have DHS buy up all the ammunition.”

So are people really unable to buy ammunition because there’s none available due to these DHS purchases?


22 posted on 03/29/2013 11:28:42 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: TexasFreeper2009
world historical figure!?!?

History remembers people who changed the world for the bad as well as the good: Attila the Hun, Genghis Khan, Caligula, Nero, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Che Guevara, Mao, Lenin, Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, etc.

The magazine wasn't saying he'd likely be remembered as one of the "good guys," but possibly for bringing down the American Republic.

23 posted on 03/29/2013 11:30:17 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

“So are people really unable to buy ammunition because there’s none available due to these DHS purchases?”

For almost anything but a shotgun, yes.
I have a 9mm, I can’t find ammo at any stores, I can find it on a classified site for much more than it’s normally worth.


24 posted on 03/29/2013 11:30:56 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All

The Pod is wrong as usual. The GOP are loaded with COWARDS who are afraid to be called racist. THAT is the problem.


25 posted on 03/29/2013 11:35:13 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

0bama could go on TV for a “major policy announcement” naked with a feather duster up his ass, and he can get away with it because his lap-dog media will gush over how it was a very nice designer feather duster. That ought to be the real point of this article. Hell, I could be a flawless president if I had media and entertainment carrying my water 24/7.


26 posted on 03/29/2013 11:52:46 AM PDT by henkster (I have one more cow than my neighbor. I am a kulak.)
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To: brownsfan

That is very scary. Very. I don’t recognize my country at all anymore. Honestly.


27 posted on 03/29/2013 11:57:09 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Obama is backed by: almost all of the MSM; almost all of academia; almost all of the public school system; almost all of the mass entertainment industry; almost every international organization; all of organized labour; most “liberal” religious organizations, etc.

A more accurate way of putting it would be: Obama is the figurehead for an ideological movement, that has systematically taken over nearly all of the important opinion-formers in the country. Obama could spend all of his time on the golf course, or flying to expensive taxpayer-paid holidays, and still appear as “successful”.


28 posted on 03/29/2013 12:00:09 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Podhoretz, January 2012:

Perplexing but true: Mitt Romney is on the glide path to the most easily secured nomination a Republican presidential candidate has ever had — while being one of the weakest major candidates either party has ever seen.

29 posted on 03/29/2013 12:01:42 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: Noamie

Hitler benefited from plain old dumb luck, the foolhardiness of his adversaries, and the advice of some people around him who were decidedly smarter than he.

However, Hitler suffered from that same dumb luck, foolhardiness of his adversaries (that worked out for them), and bad advice of some people around him that were dumber than he.


30 posted on 03/29/2013 12:05:29 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Obama is a puppet. He believes strongly in his leftist agenda, but he is controlled and manipulated by others. He still doesn’t know what is in obamacare, and he doesn’t care. He cares more about his march madness basketball brackets.

He and Biden are foolish little puppets.


31 posted on 03/29/2013 12:09:13 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Obama is very possibly the antichrist!
32 posted on 03/29/2013 12:09:51 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

John Podhoretz recognizes that Obama, while nothing close to the ‘genius’ his supporters claim, is clever and dangerous. I blame voter apathy, Republican cowardice and media influence for Obama’s ability to do so much damage and yet not be held accountable. Something we’ll all pay for, one way or another.


33 posted on 03/29/2013 12:10:42 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: FreeAtlanta

“He cares more about his march madness basketball brackets.”

And he’s incompetent at that, too. He picked Indiana.


34 posted on 03/29/2013 12:23:25 PM PDT by henkster (I have one more cow than my neighbor. I am a kulak.)
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To: Iron Munro
Judged by the standards that should be applied to Presidents--how well they defended the Constitution and the nation--Obama is probably the worst President of all time (with James Buchanan as his only serious rival), but judged by his impact, he could be one of the most significant--he may change the US more than any President since FDR.

Of course that change is 100% for the worse but that doesn't make it less real (greater government control, less freedom, driving the economy toward ruin, etc.). Obama may be merely a front man who lets others do all the heavy lifting but look at the results so far--Obamacare, massive increase in spending and debt, probable inevitability of amnesty and same-sex marriage. For some of these there will be no turning back regardless of who wins the 2016 election. If Hillary or another Democrat wins in 2016, there will definitely be no reversing of the damage Obama has wrought.

35 posted on 03/29/2013 12:30:26 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: brownsfan

So, have companies stopped making ammo?


36 posted on 03/29/2013 12:32:37 PM PDT by mc5cents
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
That is very scary. Very. I don’t recognize my country at all anymore. Honestly.

Well, I still recognize my family and my church. That to me is what is important. The country is important too, but in the end it is those two things that matter. Remember, we are only on this earth for a short time.

37 posted on 03/29/2013 12:37:17 PM PDT by mc5cents
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To: mc5cents

“So, have companies stopped making ammo?”

Nope. Eventually some ammo will make it to the public market. But as far as I know, the manufacturers are going fill tilt trying to fill DHS’s buy of nearly 2 billion rounds.


38 posted on 03/29/2013 12:47:46 PM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Iron Munro

“Just consiider how the history and accomplishments of Lincoln, JFK and MLK have been inflated and how they have been pushed on the country.”

Did you forget FDR?


39 posted on 03/29/2013 12:51:39 PM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: Logical me

Ain’t it amazin’ how some folks keep sayin’ “It can’t happen in America” when it already has?


40 posted on 03/29/2013 12:53:32 PM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: RipSawyer

Yes, ain’t it!


41 posted on 03/29/2013 1:10:43 PM PDT by mc5cents
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To: jjotto
The article ultimately has no point except to claim there’s no way to successfully criticize Obama.

He's saying the two extremes -- Obama as a dithering dilettante or Obama as a dedicated Marxist-Leninist revolutionary -- are both wrong and the answer has to lie somewhere in between.

He doesn't go much further than that, so the article may not seem to be of much use, but for my money he's right and provides something for people to think about and discuss.

42 posted on 03/29/2013 1:13:39 PM PDT by x
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Without question. The Founders wanted a watchdog, and they are now a lapdog.


43 posted on 03/29/2013 1:16:35 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Obama is very possibly a world-historical political figure.
Yeah he’s the greats loser and wants everyone else to be one too.
Trip stumble and fall is all he can do.


44 posted on 03/29/2013 2:34:02 PM PDT by Vaduz
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To: what's up

Obama has found the part of population that Lincoln spoke of i.e. ‘you can fool some of the people all the time .....’ and has realized that ‘some’ amounts to 50%+/- of the population/voters.


45 posted on 03/29/2013 2:43:29 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Sometimes, Podhoretz proves that he’s ready for the LA tarpits, and this is one occasion.


46 posted on 03/29/2013 4:27:45 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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