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Court refuses 'pregnant man' Thomas Beatie's divorce (Bring a bucket)
BBC ^ | 29 March 2013 Last updated at 16:33 ET | BBC

Posted on 03/29/2013 6:52:19 PM PDT by haffast

An Arizona judge has refused to grant a divorce to a transgender man who gave birth to three children.

The judge said there was insufficient evidence that Thomas Beatie was male when he married; the state bans same-sex marriage.

In 2008, Mr Beatie, who had lived as a man for decades, gave birth to a girl, the first of three pregnancies.

He is legally male but kept his female reproductive organs and bore children because his wife was infertile.

A spokesman for Mr Beatie, Ryan Gordon, said Maricopa County Family Court Judge Douglas Gerlach's comments came as a shock. He said his client, who hopes to marry his current girlfriend, planned to appeal the ruling.

"It's unfortunate that the judge out here doesn't recognise marriage in another state,'' Mr Gordon said.

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"I'm clearly a man: socially, legally, psychologically, physically - the whole ball of wax," Mr Beatie told the Arizona Republic in December.

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(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: equality; homosexual; marriage; perversion
Thomas Beatie To Talk About Having Another Child
Filed under: Thomas Beatie - 22 Mar 2013
http://www.pregnantman.net/

It's a messed up world.

1 posted on 03/29/2013 6:52:19 PM PDT by haffast
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To: haffast

This is just so disgusting and so wrong all over. I feel for the children.....


2 posted on 03/29/2013 6:56:55 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: haffast

This is your brain on liberalism..


3 posted on 03/29/2013 6:58:13 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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To: haffast

This is what the faggots want. They want to jam up the legal system with bullshit divorces in states that don’t support gay marriage.

This is right out of Alinsky. Overwhelm the system.

Homosexuality is an abomination that should be shunned and forced back into the deepest corners of society.


4 posted on 03/29/2013 6:59:02 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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5 posted on 03/29/2013 7:00:28 PM PDT by narses
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To: haffast
Mr Beatie began taking testosterone in 1979 and underwent a double mastectomy in 2002. His birth certificate was changed to male at the same time.

How can one rely on the validity of government documents if that same government engages in retroactive document fraud?

6 posted on 03/29/2013 7:00:30 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
I feel for the children.....

Yup. Victimless my eye.
7 posted on 03/29/2013 7:06:01 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Sgt_Schultze
government engages in retroactive document fraud...

Nice observation.
8 posted on 03/29/2013 7:08:00 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: haffast

“It’s unfortunate that the judge out here doesn’t recognise marriage in another state,’’ Mr Gordon said.


It’s unfortunate that idiots refuse to recognise genetic truths.


9 posted on 03/29/2013 7:10:24 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: haffast
there's no such thing as a pregnant man...
10 posted on 03/29/2013 7:15:43 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: haffast

I was thinking that maybe a 15-year-old could file papers legally declaring themselves 21, and then they could drink.

I’m thinking about deciding that I present as black, and filing for payment as a black farmer. Oh, I’ll also say I present as a farmer. Apparently, we live in a magical time when you just get to declare whatever you want to be.

I also have declared myself a 6-ft 11-inch black male with basketball skills, and am looking to file lawsuit against the University of Maryland if they won’t grant me a scholarship.


11 posted on 03/29/2013 7:18:01 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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This is bullsh*t! IF so,then why wasn`t this ALL over the news? The "it" in question was once a chick and didn`t have her "plumbing" stripped. Thats a far cry from a true YX-male being implanted and carrying to term.

I read about this mad scientist crap years ago, some Brit Doc had postulated it but if its been done then where`s the inevitable medical uproar over the procedure?

You need to be a bit more discriminating there.

12 posted on 03/29/2013 7:30:04 PM PDT by nomad
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To: haffast

I’m really confused.


13 posted on 03/29/2013 7:47:17 PM PDT by moovova
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To: haffast

Thankfully not all judges are corrupt ignoramuses that think like dull parents trying to accommodate dull children.


14 posted on 03/29/2013 7:53:29 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: haffast
He is legally male but kept his female reproductive organs and bore children because his wife was infertile.

I give up.

15 posted on 03/29/2013 7:59:36 PM PDT by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: haffast
and bore children because his wife was infertile.

Did (s)he consider the 'wife' infertile because (s)he couldn't get the 'wife' pregnant? Anyone thing a lack of male plumbing in the 'marriage' might have been a factor?

16 posted on 03/29/2013 8:47:08 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
"I feel for the children....."

And that is exactly the point. The people involved in this horrible mess give not one damn about the children. All they care about is their personal gratification.

17 posted on 03/29/2013 9:49:46 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: haffast

“Oh what a twisted web we weave”....


18 posted on 03/29/2013 9:54:41 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: nomad
"Thats a far cry from a true YX-male being implanted and carrying to term."

I've long ago forgotten what I learned in school when genetics was covered. So please help!

If there are no markers for male genetics, would that maybe have consequences healthwise for the children?

19 posted on 03/30/2013 8:13:24 PM PDT by hummingbird
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To: hummingbird
What I simply meant was a human with a Y-X combination is, by genetic definition, a male and would not carry the uterus needed for gestation. If there was a X-X then that would be a genetic female, like this one, who had IT`S "plumbing" sufficiently left intact for gestation. These days, with the advances in plastic surgery and hormonal treatments, its possible to turn one, SUPERFICIALLY, into the other, BUT there would still be the issue of gestation.

The Doctor in question believed it was possible to create an "abdominal pregnancy". The olvaries are not attached to the fallopian tubes, fimbrea waves the ovum into it so in theory IF spermatozoa can unite with the ovum (extremely rare) outside of the fallopian pathway to the uterus, the blastocyst can implant into serous tissues outside of the uterus, its one of the bonifide reasons an abortion IS medically needed to save the mother`s life.

Imagine if you will, a slab of tissue, many inches long and tied into the blood supply of a major organ in the abdomen. That's what you`d have left after a full term gestational placental attachment(starts off small and grows).In the uterus, it contracts and can naturally stem the hemorrhaging, but outside? Can we say, MASSIVE internal hemorrhage? Hypovolemic shock would quickly kill the person in question.

But this is a medical condition,so can we also say "..first, do no harm...", it`s part of the Hippocratic Oath, why then would a "Medical Doctor" create a pathological condition that has a high degree of probability for killing the patient?

Sounds medically ethical to you?

20 posted on 03/31/2013 10:48:58 AM PDT by nomad
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To: haffast

If it has a uterus and a vagina, it’s not a man.

The press is lying. Again. And so is this weird, sick woman who goes by the name “Thomas”, and pretends to be a man.


21 posted on 03/31/2013 10:52:17 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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