Skip to comments.Marilyn Manson Stars In Saint Laurent Ad (Golux take)
Posted on 03/30/2013 9:59:09 AM PDT by golux
Marilyn Manson is the latest musician tapped by mega fashion brand Saint Laurent to star in their newest ad. Creative Director Hedi Slimane chose Manson to star in the brands newest menswear campaign. Slimane seems to have an obsession with selecting edgy singers from the 90s to front his ads...
The eerie ad is comprised of a close-up shot of Manson featuring the singer in thick eyeliner, black lipstick and a shiny leather jacket. Goth-grunge is hot right now...
Although a bit surprising seeing Manson star in a fashion ad, his sinister look perfectly accentuates the French fashion lines dark and neo-grunge aesthetic...
2. Sad also for those who care about great design and quality materials that things have deteriorated so much for this line that they must ha fronted by has-been singers who themselves would never have made the charts were it not for makeup and silliness.
3. If "goth grunge" is hot right now it is because there is an absolute absence in fashion culture of exciting elegance. One must remember that Chanel, YSL and others were as exciting and timeless in their day as today's "copycats" Kate Spade, Ralph Lauren (who has overextended the line perhaps) and Marc Jacobs.
4. Timeless lines, classic fit, thrilling feel aren't boring. What is boring is clothes that look and feel like they've been pulled out of a SoHo dumpster, pitched by greasy, made up pseudo-celebrities to vapid "whatever the fashion mags tell me" fashion "journalists."
5. Yes, this Freeper pays some attention to design. It is an indicator, one of many, of the state of our culture. Right now, nobody seems to have any idea what they're doing, or how to help Americans look and feel great, and strong, and decent again.
Marilyn Munster??? Is she still around?
(sorry, I forgot to add that this is an excerpted article.)
My little, black YSL lined skirt has gotten me through funerals, weddings, important dates, etc. Has worn like iron for 20 years, still looks new and is flattering.
The “Edgy” singers of the 90’s appealed to the 16-24 age demographic. Now, nearly 20 years have passed and those “teenagers”, like every other person on the planet, looks back at that age with nostalgia.
Using “Edgy” singers from the 90’s, hits the age and financial demographic of the 36-44 range, where people are either still single and looking for flashy clothes to attract a mate, or have the financial abilities to purchase designer clothes.
This is just smart marketing, nothing more, nothing less.
Mr. Warner was never “edgy”. He was a coked out popstar playing at being edgy.
There were real industrial musicians in the 1970s and 1980s. Warner and the guy from Nine In Nails aped them all.
Meanwhile Jim Thirwell/Foetus is still out there.
This is just smart marketing, nothing more, nothing less.
When I get to see Jesus in some ads and on mag covers.....then I’ll call it smart marketing. Fair is fair. If they can have a goth, we can have Christ.
If you’re going to ask me what he’ll sell, well, morality, goodness, mercy and LOVE.
Looks like he ripped off Roger Waters from “The Wall” there.
Roger Waters’ own concerts devolved to what he once claimed to despise about rock shows and humanity (or inhumanity).
In 2008, on his Darkside Of The Moon tour, they trotted out a scapegoat painted inflatable pig with PRO-Obama campaign slogans, anti-Hillary statements, anti-theism statements, anti-Republican statements.
“GET THEM UP - AGAINST - THE WALL!”
Face it, he was a Gene Simons (KISS) wannabe. Warner had mediocure talent (at best); so he went for 'shock' and it got him noticed. I think almost anyone can recognize songs from the 70's from mega groups (Beatles, Chicago, KISS, Supertramp, ABBA, etc) ... but I doubt very many can recall a single song by "Marilyn Manson".
This is simply a marketing campaign to target a specific demographic - and for that purpose, it's doing exactly what it was intended to do. It got an article written about it. How many other ad campaign get articles written?
He’s an Alice Cooper starter kit.
There is a difference between smart marketing and desperate pleas for attention, or, trying to get the biggest possible bang for the money you spent on VOGUE ads. Smart marketing means marketing that sells.
In terms of men’s clothes, I’d say Armani was the last line that really dominated the category of suits, for instance. Though I didn’t like ‘em, many men did and do, and the line was marketed brilliantly. And you know what? elegance, fit, and finish were the hallmarks: clothes which (like that YSL dress) just felt perfect. And Armani suits and lines (the ‘look’) never fell out of fashion, which is to say they still sell and have carved a category for themselves in concrete. (like so many matching shoes. Hey, Fuggedaboudit!)
Manson’s face and associated Laurent line is a study in imperfection, awkwardness, outlandishness, and discomfort. It is the opposite of timelessness, or true style, and destined to return to the dumpster.
I think there is something to be said for retiring a name when the inheritors don’t have the class, moxie, talent, or strength of will to hold to core values.
“how to help Americans look and feel great, and strong, and decent again”
With respect, I don’t think the general arrogance and narcissism of clothing designers are what will make us feel great, strong and decent. I think they, along with social media and celebrity worshipers are the symptoms (not the root cause) of what’s wrong with this country.
There was a time when we didn’t need to be pretty, popular and stylin’ to be good people - in fact just the opposite.
When is the last time you were confronted by someone who knew the implicit meaning of a simple handshake? In the last decade, I’ve met 2.
If you want to support a company that uses Jesus as an advertisement spokesperson - hey, it's your money. For me, that would be an abomination. I believe Jesus had an opinion on mixing business and religion.
Business is about making a profit and selling goods. These are temporal goods and services, they are only as good as long as they last.
Jesus's message was non-temporal in nature - his message never wears out.
Make that 3. I'm unarmed.
Where in my post did I say it would be for business purposes.?
It is Easter. How many magazines have you seen telling His story. We see Manson, Peoples Sexiest Man Alive, and Obama, but not the Lord. How many ads do you see supporting morality and modesty? None.
Back when I was single and a lot more affluent, I had 1 Armani suit. The material is most certainly superior to most any other materials used in suits today. Extremely wrinkle resistant, had a "depth", wore very well. Armani suits seem almost exclusively designed for the "athletic" build. If you get the bear belly, it's time for the consignment shop. But, when I was 24-30; it was by far the best suit I ever owned. Spent years in the closet and then was given to my son-in-law decades later. And it STILL looks stunning.
Manon's frame is not at all flattering for a suit. Awkward at best.
But, this statement says it best - I could neither have said it better, nor more succinctly:
I think there is something to be said for retiring a name when the inheritors dont have the class, moxie, talent, or strength of will to hold to core values.
I blame this on BAD parenting. Not poor parenting, BAD parenting. Please let me explain.
Poor parenting is abusive parenting, neglectful and irresponsible parenting; by people who are just not capable of being much better as a human being. These are human refuse, who are losers in life, and losers as parents - basically the majority of poor parenting examples that fill our prisons, our welfare roles and perpetuate the problem.
BAD parents are parents who know better, who are capable of being kind, compassionate, loving, supportive parents - but are "hell-bent" on beating religion into their kids. My parents were BAD parents - it took nearly 20 years and a loving, patient wife to lead me back to the church. Church was a weekly punishment, for a crime I didn't commit. The bible was a weapon to be used to beat those around me into submission - and everyone who was subject to this abuse resented it. They resent it a LOT.
So, when I see the crowds of Libtards taking glee in abusing Christians, I see children seeking revenge against their BAD parents. You will see a huge ocean of BAD parents, if you just open your eyes. Parents who punish their children into going to church - not out of love or of seeking to learn about Christ; but out of concern for what the neighbors may say or think. You will see BAD parents who use the Bible not as an instrument to improve our lives and seek to enrich our lives; but as a weapon to beat others down. I see it all of the time - poor mislead souls who do not understand the words in the book that they use to hammer on the heads of those souls that were entrusted to them to instruct. It's a sad tale. This is why the population of the earth is growing, yet the numbers of the church are falling. The failure isn't in the message - it's in how the message is being delivered.
This is why so many people deeply resent hearing Christianity mentioned in public, it brings back memories of abuse they suffered as children. This is also why they do not mind hearing equivalent Islamic greetings like "Blessed Ramadan" - because the Muslims did nothing to them as children. No, that atrocity is something that is yet to come.
All that white pancake makeup must be caking up in the crevices.
I read a Rolling Stone article once and the interviewer did it at, like, 4 am. Manson was snorting coke the whole time which he/she wrote about in real time.
He looks like the sort of woman you'd see on courtroom tv for killing her child.
I understand where you are coming from.
I was abused (slapped in the face repeatedly) in Catholic school. I held resentment into my later years but finally forgave those who did it, and I reminded myself that Jesus didn’t hurt me, they did.
I know there are parents who are overly zealous in their teachings of the Lord and it is a very sad thing. It is my hope, and my prayer that these children when older will come to a reasoning on their own that Jesus is love and mercy, not abuse (Insert Carries mother here). These parents are going to answer to the Lord for what they are doing.
My prayers are with them. I’m glad you came back to church. God bless.
Paul Bosch once did a tv commercial for a jewelry store in which he wore a pair of earrings. He turned his head and said "if they make my ears look this good, think of what they'll do for hers!"
But the jeweler certainly wasn't trying to start a trend.
Industrial freeper, well I think that’s swell. I’m still listening to Chris and Cosey and Einsturzende Neubauten.
That's funny, because I like what Jim Thirwell/Foetus/Clint Ruin did with old Loony Tunes cartoon sounds.
And here's JG Thirwell's "What's in my bag" (no really, that's NOT mine!) clip from Amoeba Records.
I had one Armani suit too, and it looked terribly good, but it wasn’t tailored properly, and bulged a little at the shoulders so I looked like a hit man or some kind of goof.
Also, I like a suit that looks good with less-than-$500 shoes. Maybe it’s a preppie thing or lawyer thing but “J. Press” is the king in this regard. One wants a suit that looks elegant with Bass loafers. There are no better materials or cuts than J Press aside from custom jobs, and I have a couple now that I am not so poor as I was in college.
Some of the women on this thread might say that men who talk about great suits are fruity in some way but in fact men too care about their appearance, and looking good for women.... Not that we can always afford the best clothes but we keep them clean and pressed, and once in awhile spring for a custom tailored suit.
I suppose that in the end I never understood why looking like a dirty screwed-up greaseball was sexy or fashionable. Sexy to me was “I am clean, I try, I am not perfect but I have a career, I care about quality, I am in love with you, I will always try to please you, I will take care of our children, and you, in spades.”
Now - to have fine articles MADE IN THE USA again, off the rack, is the challenge.
This Manson fashion crap doesn’t last and I guess I want the girls to know it, in order to benefit men like my son who I hope will always dress carefully and respectfully - and with flair too!
Since I am currently poor and in college, I’ve replaced nice suits with muscle. Does that count?
I grew up in S. Dakota. Sears was about the finest fashion store we could find. I knew NOTHING about clothing, and everything I owned was mostly polyester. Then I moved to Texas and was exposed to how affluent gentlemen dressed.
I felt as if I was naked. I’d be invited to a private home, for a party. I would go to Sears and buy a brand new suit, shoes and shirt; a shave and a shower - and I felt awful. You could see from across the room that my clothes were inferior, and I had no idea as to why (I’m an engineer, not very artistically gifted at all).
I had a neighbor in my apartment complex who could wear a pair of Levi jeans and a white shirt - and he always looked extremely neat. We were friends, so I asked him his secret. He was flattered to be asked, as a good friend is when asked for help. He took me to the mall and showed me what broadcloth, pinpoint and other cotton materials were, and why they cost more.
He then bestowed upon me the greatest gift a nerd ever got. I don’t know if this book is in print, or has been updated in the past 35 years - but there is a book put out by a Psychologist called “Dress for Success”. You do NOT have to drop thousands of dollars to look good, this books explains the how’s, and why’s of how a Gentleman should dress for both business, and for personal use. It was a gift that I keep to this day, and a gift I have shared with my younger brothers.
The book I’m referring to was written by John T Molloy and hasn’t apparently been updated since 1986. It’s NOT cheap, perhaps you can find it cheaper than here. The reason I liked it, was because it was not a sales ad for Polo, Ralph Lauren, Tommy Hillfiger or other name fashion designers. It had to do with the cut, texture, color and how psychological profiles across demographics can be used to your advantage.
See thread #31
I promise you, my FRiend; you will be amazed at how sharp you can look - on a tight college budget - if you take the time to check this book out at your college library.
This man did a psychological analysis on people of different cultures, different economic strata and different geographic locations across the USA - and came to some very surprising conclusions. There is a reason why Apple has their reps dress the way they do. There is a reason why your business attire should never be mixed with your personal attire. Some colors you should never wear, some ties you can only wear in certain localities. All kinds of faux pas that you can let the “other guy” make. Men are very lucky - largely, what was in style for men 50 years ago, is largely in style today. It’s simply a matter of knowing what you are doing - and this lesson isn’t taught in school.
Like "Republican," perhaps.
Thanks, I’ll check out the link.
I actually have one very nice suit that my mother’s boss bought me for interviews. The store was a habberdashery in West Chester, PA...custom tailored. It’s my interview, funeral, and wedding suit. :)
Every gentleman needs 1 such suit.
Your mother’s Boss did you a fine service. He sounds like a gentleman of class. There are several great deals to be had, if you look around. There are steals to be found at Consignment shops; where businessmen have put on weight (it comes with age and family life) and a new suit no longer fits. I’ve seen $750 new suits (with tags) that have been altered, but never worn; on sale for $100.
Might I suggest, if it’s not too late; to get an extra set of pants. Typically, you will snag your pants, or just through normal wear and tear, the pants will wear out before the jacket. If you can purchase 2 sets of pants, and alternate them; you can effectively “double” the life of your suit.
I lived in Texas; and for whatever reason, Texans appreciate the Dry Cleaner industry. You can have ALL of your clothes dry cleaned, professionally pressed and returned to you on hangers for ~$25/week. One of the things that indicates “neatness” is crisp, clean lines. A light starch in your Levi’s with a white starched shirt will get a very positive reaction. Chances are you already own both - just invest $5 on date night, and that will make a much larger return than a $200 dinner. The crisp lines make a statement about YOU. The meal is just a statement about your willingness to outlay cash. Women always love a sharp dressed man, trust me.
Thanks for all the info, I appreciate it. The odd thing...I ruin is shoes. I scuff the crap out of my toes with the heel of my shoe. I’m not pigeon toed, but I ruin a shoe’s toes fast. I went through 3 dress shoes in the USAF, and I almost never wore them.