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Mexican drug cartels are coming to America
NewHavenRegister.com ^ | April 01, 2013 | N/A

Posted on 04/01/2013 4:20:08 AM PDT by raybbr

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To: a fool in paradise
I'm all for ending welfare - but not for using that as an excuse for continuing to enrich criminals with the War on Drugs.

Can’t smoke tobacco without breaking a bunch of rules (selling to minors, smuggling them in from Indian reservations, salvaging them from flooded warehouses, smoking indoors, smoking in a car, smoking in the presence of children, smoking at home if your employer prohibits it).

With few exceptions (such as Vegas and New Orleans) can’t buy liquor every day at the store. Can’t buy beer at the store except in restricted house. Can’t buy it at a bar 24-7. Can’t buy it if you are underage. Can’t distill spirits on your own. A beer missing from a six-pack is an “open container” if you leave the other 5 beers in the box or plastic rings. Can be busted in public for “public intoxication” if you purchase and consume more than 2 adult beverages in an hour...

The list goes on and on.

The ship has sailed.

Which ship is that? I support regulation of legalized-for-adults drugs - and the regulations you cite have not enriched criminals to anywhere near the degree the War on Drugs has.

Attempting the end the welfare state AFTER the drug door is opened will never happen.

The ship has sailed: the drug door opened when Prohibition ended.

51 posted on 04/01/2013 8:56:22 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: raybbr

Mexican drug cartels are coming to America . . . it’s funny ‘cuz the headline is so earnest . . . like aren’t they already entrenched here?


52 posted on 04/01/2013 9:51:51 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Ummm, Prohibition was at least Constitutionally passed both times.

I’m continually astounded that on a site such as FR, there are still those that give Fedzilla a pass (not saying you).

#1 should ALWAYS be, does it fit with A1S8 powers? But, no. Most of the time it’s “Does it gore MY ox?” or “Does it make ME sleep better at night?”

Sad


53 posted on 04/01/2013 10:32:40 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: 1010RD
the War on Drugs has created billion dollar drug mafias.

It created more rich politicians and bankers than id did crooks.

You want to stop the criminals, first remove them from office. There has never been a war on drugs, it is just what they call the plan to redistribute our wealth minus the fees collected by the Banks and the crooked politicians.

54 posted on 04/01/2013 10:47:35 AM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: Moonman62
The Mexican gangs have now killed two prosecutors in Texas.

No, no, no, it was white NAZIs. </sarcasm>

55 posted on 04/01/2013 10:48:57 AM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: itsahoot; 1010RD
the War on Drugs has created billion dollar drug mafias.

It created more rich politicians and bankers than id did crooks.

You want to stop the criminals, first remove them from office.

And replace them with incorruptible politicians? Thanks for confirming that stopping drugs through government action is a utopian fantasy.

56 posted on 04/01/2013 10:54:02 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: raybbr

“Mexican drug cartels whose operatives once rarely ventured beyond the U.S. border “

Once? Like decades ago maybe! Armed cartels have been running illegal aliens to farm our public lands for decades. Here in So. Oregon we have so many gang bangers they’ve lost track. raybbr, you and I both knew 10 years ago that this was going to happen. I’m convinced the cartels and/or Carlos Slim has bought and paid for our politicians.


57 posted on 04/01/2013 10:56:41 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: raybbr; paladin1_dcs; Mrs.FuzzyG; DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis; lahargis; SoldierDad; REDWOOD99; ...
Mexican drug cartels are coming to America

[It appears they're already here.]


58 posted on 04/01/2013 11:42:37 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT; Admin Moderator

Again, How many times must I ask you to take me off your ping list?? Do I need to involve the moderator?


59 posted on 04/01/2013 12:00:14 PM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: eastforker

Oh, eastforker, I am sorry, and finally found the problem. You were on the list in two different places and I just hadn’t noticed.


60 posted on 04/01/2013 12:23:37 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Moonman62

I don’t doubt that the murders are drug-related.
What else makes sense?
The one remaining LE spokesman down there who is willing to appear before cameras has been
quoted lately, looking rather sheepish, but not letting
on that he has ANY idea who is behind the OBVIOUSLY related
murders. Very little info that I have seen anyway , has been forthcoming from the MSM, as to who or what is behind the murders or what the prosecutors could have done to trigger their own murders. They all seem just about equally scared and tentative about the situation, proclaiming that as awful as it is, it’s not gonna stop them from “living their lives”.


61 posted on 04/01/2013 12:34:06 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: TYVets

42 years???
I picked up some HUNDRED YEAR OLD New York newspapers about 20 years ago,at a yard sale, and their pages even then were full of what they called “the war on drugs”.


62 posted on 04/01/2013 12:37:15 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: raybbr
Obama and Holder armed them with taxpayer funds. Frankly, the DHS looks like an official criminal mob with massive armament and carte blanche to steal (warrantless raiding of safe deposit boxes to remove gold, silver, cash, guns). We're paying to arm both sides and they are pushing to disarm us.
63 posted on 04/01/2013 12:46:44 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: PghBaldy

I wasn’t really ever for ending the Drug War, but over time I’ve watched it corrupt the police/judicial system, enrich absolute scum, and undermine liberty I can no longer support it.

There has to be a better way, one that preserves liberty.


64 posted on 04/01/2013 2:31:55 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Fai Mao

Mass killings? This is America. That doesn’t fly here.

The Cartels maintain their “monopoly” by government fiat. Take that away and they’re in the poor house. Think of all the rats who’d flip on them for past crimes and murders just for a couple of bucks.


65 posted on 04/01/2013 2:33:51 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: GeronL

No need for the “sarcasm tag” when a comment is that ridiculous.


66 posted on 04/01/2013 2:34:51 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: i_robot73

Yep, they don’t mind when the government makes you do what they like. What a long, slow fall from demanding an Amendment to prohibit an adult activity to passing whatever, whenever and not even via the legislature.

Rule making is law writing.


67 posted on 04/01/2013 2:42:18 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: raybbr

My students would tell stories of these cartels and they knew the names of the head honchos.


68 posted on 04/01/2013 4:57:55 PM PDT by bgill
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To: unixfox; All

Well, those “some” are in the media...

It is possible that they (investigators) do not know, as yet, and it is unlikely that the truth will be told, and will it really matter if we ever do discover the truth...

At this point, Aryan Brotherhood, or the drug cartels angle...Does it really matter who is responsible???

The segment of the population that could be effected might be the political grassroots folks who are the base of the republican party...Those Precinct Chairmen, the folks, your nieghbors, that are active in the operations of the party...

Idealy, those local organizations have quarterly meetings, and guess who attends those meeting as well??? Politicians, judges and DA’s who may be on the front of fighting this from the judiciary side of the equation...

A target rich environment, that when they do have their meetings, they are usually conducted in facilities that are “gun free zones”...Imagine that irony...

Whomever is begining to conduct these “hits” will obviously begin to put together this issue and possibly be licking their chops at the prospect...

At this point I would not be surprised...


69 posted on 04/02/2013 2:43:14 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: raybbr

If they combine with the muzies they are a threat. If not the enemy of my enemy.....


70 posted on 04/02/2013 5:10:44 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: 1010RD

You hit the key problem, everything govt. touches turns to sh_t.


71 posted on 04/02/2013 5:11:48 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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