Skip to comments.Nearly 7K speeding tickets issued on ICC
Posted on 04/01/2013 4:28:02 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
LAUREL, Md. - Since the Intercounty Connector opened, nearly 7,000 speeding tickets have been issued, according to documents obtained by WTOP.
While most tickets are clearly violations, some raise questions for drivers.
Police issued nearly 200 tickets to drivers going less than 65 mph in a 55 mph zone. On Oct. 6, 2011, a driver was ticketed for going 59 mph.
"That's crazy. I've never heard of that before and I don't understand it," says Sergio Gutierrez of Laurel.
He says it's confusing, especially with the recent story of Maryland State Police ticketing a woman for driving 62 mph in the left lane of Interstate 95 in Laurel.
The speed limit on that stretch is 65 mph.
"It's not fair," he says. "You're damned if you do, damned if you don't."
With thousands of speeding tickets being issued, Alan Bonney of Laurel wonders whether something else is going on.
"Sounds like somebody needs money. Perhaps the police are just trying to meet a quota," Bonney says.
Eric Henning of Laurel says drivers may be breaking the speed limit, but says police really need to be looking for another ICC problem.
"If you're really interested in safety, you should be going after drivers weaving in and out of traffic," says Eric Henning of Laurel.
Maryland Transportation Authority Police say that officers have discretion as to when it's appropriate to enforce traffic laws.
"A driver who exceeds the posted speed limit by even 1 mph is violating the law and is at risk of being charged for excessive speed," says Sgt. Jonathan Green with the agency.
"It is important to note that the risk of injury during a motor vehicle collision increases as vehicle speed increases, making speed enforcement critical in terms of maintaining highway safety," he says.
Police also note that the 200 tickets represent less than 3 percent of the 7,000 tickets.
On Saturday, March 30, the speed limit on the ICC will go up from 55 mph to 60 mph. A Maryland Transportation Authority study found the highway can support the higher speed limit without any safety risk.
Only a half-dozen drivers have received speeding tickets going 60 mph or less on the ICC. The latest case happened last October.
On the other end are tickets that are less debatable. Sixteen drivers were caught driving over 100 mph on the ICC.
In fact, on Sept. 17, 2011, a driver was pulled over for going 140 mph.
"Wow, OK. That driver is definitely in need of a ticket. That's completely unsafe," Gutierrez says.
"I can't understand how anyone would go that fast on a public road. If you want to go that fast, rent out a race track," Henning says.
"This is not the Autobahn in Germany. That driver should be locked up. It's people like those who put the safety of everyone at risk," says Raymond Kuhns of Laurel.
Green tells WTOP the driver challenged the ticket in court, but a judge found him guilty.
While most of the people with whom WTOP spoke aren't convinced a higher speed limit will do much, they hope it won't encourage more drivers to become speedsters.
Maryland “Freak State” PING!
It’s their revised business model. Same with the sparsely used Lexus Lanes in NoVA.
O’Mally is hungry.
Crazy thing is no one is using the ICC anyway so he is trying to drive away those who do.
What on earth is a Lexus Lane?
A “Lexus Lane” is also known as an express lane or High Occupancy or Toll (HOT) lane. These lanes utilize congestion pricing (variable tolls) to keep them free-flowing, and they are typically built next to free lanes on a freeway. The more congested the freeway, the higher the price, except for car pools, which are allowed to use them for free. Some express lanes, however, are not HOT lanes, and everybody to uses them pays.
An example of a HOT lanes project is the six HOT lanes being added to the LBJ Freeway between I-35E and US 75 in Dallas.
seig f'n heil, ya fascist douchebag
The “Lexus Lane” terminology is based on the misconception that the lanes will be mainly utilized by wealthy drivers.
If you were an important person, like a government employee, wouldn’t you like a road, such as the ICC al to yourself?
Something like this could fit within Agenda 21, drive people into controlled roads.
Thanks for the explanation.
I can’t think when the last time I was on a toll road was...........We don’t have many around here, but I never use them.
When you’re retired, you never have to be in a hurry-—LOL!
On 495 (Northern VA) in the afternoon, the lexus lanes have at least 3 different cops on the 14 mile stretch...none in the commoner lanes.
Just one more reason to stay the hell away from the hell-hole that DC has become.
Time for some civil disobedience. Drive the minimum speed. They can’t ticket you for that and the resulting traffic jam will bring more publicity to the issue.
Another example of our police being turned into revenue agents with guns. A form of taxation without representation ...legal extortion.
Of course like everything else engineered by democratic party trash, if you criticize the obvious extortion, the built it come back label is...”you’re unsafe”.
No one’s speedometer is that accurate.
In my neighborhood, if you want to find an example of a vehicle ignoring stop signs, failing to signal, speeding and with the driver distracted communicating with someone, just look for a police cruiser.
Of course, they’re highly trained drivers, unlike us peons. Same way they’re highly trained marksmen.
He told me that as a matter of policy "we'll give you 10 due to the limitations of the gear, but over 10 you'll likely get a ticket"
Here in NE Florida we had a good ole boy for sheriff for many years. He did some traffic patroling but was not excessive in ticket writing. The new locals, mostly transplanted yankees decided they needed a new sheriff and elected a guy’s whose resume was a highway patrolman. So, now we have radar, speed patrols, DUI checkpoints and people complaining about the excessive traffic enforcement. Note to transplanting Yankees, you will like it better in Miami or staying where you are.
It’s a TOLL road - so perhaps drivers believe they have paid for the privilege of getting to their destinations as quickly as possible.
Read the Maryland TA rationale (revenue) for tolls and peak hours.
The MDTA will continuously monitor traffic volumes and may adjust the toll rates periodically to manage traffic volumes or help meet revenue needs.
Pay to play!!!
Old adage - “Over 9, pay the fine”.
Seems like they want to make it a little tighter. Unfortunately, speedometers aren’t perfectly accurate on most cars so you can be going a few MPH slower or faster than indicated.
The only time we use the toll roads is when we go to ABIA during rush hour. Did you hear about the driver that hit a herd of wild hogs on the 85 MPH part of SH 130 last week? It was almost dark and about 35 hogs ran in front of their car.
There is a toll road, 130, that goes around Austin because of the heavy traffic on I-35 and has a feeder that drops down to 1-10 that is about 35mi long. Total about 80mi.
The speed limit on the Austin circle in 80mph and the feeder to I-10 is 85mph. In Texas, you can only drive about 5mph over without a ticket, but I don’t ever see many cops on it. More wild hogs than cops.
The road was supposed to get some of the heavy traffic off of the beltway, but the tolls are so high that the traffic is sparse, making that objective unlikely.
People have been clamoring for an ICC since the early 90’s. They wanted a better way to get to work. Maryland gave them in return was a 14 mile long speed trap masquerading as a toll road. And they wonder why nobody takes it.
Probably more wild hogs than cars, too.
“A driver who exceeds the posted speed limit by even 1 mph is violating the law and is at risk of being charged for excessive speed,” says Sgt. Jonathan Green with the agency.
But soooo schtupid.
That's what they call "taxing the rich".
Good gosh! No, I didn’t hear about that.
What was the outcome?
From what I hear, I don’t think there’s been a total of 7,000 cars on that road since it opened.
Some people find a way to eliminate the photo box.
I think the vehicle rolled several times, but all the passengers lived.
That’s a miracle in itself. Glad to hear it!
Better and more generally known as high-occupancy vehicle (HOV) lanes.
In the People’s Police State of New Jersey, the state with the highest trough eater density outside of DC, cruise control is your friend. However setting it exactly at the speed limit causes dangerous levels of road rage, especially if the limit is 25 mph and the car behind you has law enforcement license plates.
This is bullshite.
When Montana got rid of interstate speed limits, average speed increased, but fatalities were reduced.
The key here is that people don't generally want to die. If you have a group of cars cruising along at 90 MPH, their biggest concern is a moron in the left lane running at 50, not the other cars travelling at speed.
Another unintended consequence - issuing so many suspect speeding tickets will only deter commuters from using this route. Drivers are speeding on the Beltway - but it’s too labor intensive and disruptive to pull them over in rush hour!!!
If these ‘brilliant’ MDTA minds had any clue - they would increase the speed limit on 200 and issue tickets on the Beltway. More tolls and more tickets = more money!!!!
Having escaped from the LIB hell-hole, MD, last year, I can say that they are mentally incapacitated there. An incredible hundreds of millions was spent of a road (the ICC) that for-the-most-part no one uses. The state purchased the right of way in the 1950’s but the various LIB asshat pinheads delayed it for 50+ years with various EPA-type concerns. Also, the LIB morons were using the vacant right-of-way as parks...and that was another problem to resolve. Here in Utah we don’t seem to have such problems. Free at last...Thank God...Free at last!!!!!
Well, so far we haven’t had to travel the area south of US 71 yet. The 85 MPH limit starts quite a bit south of the ABIA exit past Buda. The 80 MPH on 130 is about as fast as I will drive.
Starting today, truckers will pay the same as passenger vehicles on 130 if they get on at Buda and stay on it to the end past Georgetown. I’m sure that will take a lot off IH 35 in Austin.
I hear it’s 20K to 30K on a given weekday, depending on what part of it you’re discussing. Well below capacity, of course. I’d just lower the freaking tolls.
HOV lanes are free, while HOT lanes charge a toll for non-carpoolers.
I don’t know how well that will work. I suspect that the corporate scum will simply tell their drivers to stay mired in traffic on I-35 to save some money.
“I hear its 20K to 30K on a given weekday, depending on what part of it youre discussing. Well below capacity, of course. Id just lower the freaking tolls.”
I hear you, Tol. I was having some fun with that boondoggle. You’re right, of course, the state would make a lot more friends if they lowered the tolls and upped the margin they give drivers (and/or up the speed limit).
They just upped it to 60, which is apparently the speed the engineers designed the road for.
I hit 75 on the ICC regularly. No tickets so far.