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Melt may explain Antarctica's sea ice expansion
BBC News Science and Enviroment ^ | April 1st 2013

Posted on 04/01/2013 7:03:44 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg

Climate change is expanding Antarctica's sea ice, according to a scientific study in the journal Nature Geoscience.

The paradoxical phenomenon is thought to be caused by relatively cold plumes of fresh water derived from melting beneath the Antarctic ice shelves.

This melt water has a relatively low density, so it accumulates in the top layer of the ocean.

The cool surface waters then re-freeze more easily during Autumn and Winter.

This explains the observed peak in sea ice during these seasons, a team from the Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute (KNMI) in De Bilt says in its peer-reviewed paper.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 1984; climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; minitrue
More Enviromental Blather from the denizens in the Ministry of "Truth"...

Your calender may show 2013, but we are living 1984!

1 posted on 04/01/2013 7:03:44 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg
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To: Mad Dawgg

Epicycle upon epicycle.


2 posted on 04/01/2013 7:04:57 AM PDT by RingerSIX (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccine that they offer down at our Church.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
The paradoxical phenomenon is thought to be caused by ...

Funny. April Fools, I'm guessing.

3 posted on 04/01/2013 7:06:25 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

There is MORE ice because the ice is MELTING. This is known as the Brooklyn Bridge Theory in the environmental government grant circles.


4 posted on 04/01/2013 7:07:03 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The GOP will never get another cent or vote from me. Thanks to the eight gangbangers.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
"Climate change is ..."

You can stop reading right there. There is nothing intelligent to follow, and you will be stupider for having read it.

5 posted on 04/01/2013 7:12:51 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Mad Dawgg


6 posted on 04/01/2013 7:13:55 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: Mad Dawgg

they are making this up as they go along.


7 posted on 04/01/2013 7:14:14 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Really grasping at straws aren’t they!!!


8 posted on 04/01/2013 7:14:17 AM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: RingerSIX

Turtles all the way down...


9 posted on 04/01/2013 7:15:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: 6ppc
"Really grasping at straws aren’t they!!!"

You know there is a super secret memo somewhere deep in the bowels of the Ministry of Truth that says: "Shit, Google Earth has screwed us. Any internet jackweed can measure the arctic ice now. Quick we need a theory to explain why the ice is expanding or we all lose our jobs!"

10 posted on 04/01/2013 7:17:31 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Up is down. Black is white. Man-made climate change is real.


11 posted on 04/01/2013 7:18:15 AM PDT by preacher (Communism has only killed 100 million people: Let's give it another chance!)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Uhm, fresh water is LESS dense than salt. It would float on top.


12 posted on 04/01/2013 7:18:57 AM PDT by Don W (There is no gun problem, there is a lack of humanity problem!)
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To: Mad Dawgg

It is like a child explaining how something got broken.


13 posted on 04/01/2013 7:25:57 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

In other words, warm is cold.


14 posted on 04/01/2013 7:30:12 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Don W
Uhm, fresh water is LESS dense than salt. It would float on top.

That's exactly what the third sentence of the summary says.

15 posted on 04/01/2013 7:32:18 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

If the United States can spend its way to prosperity, and giving guns to violent Mexican drug gangs reduces violence, then
of course there is more ice because the ice is melting.


16 posted on 04/01/2013 7:45:44 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Mad Dawgg

“Climate change is expanding Antarctica’s sea ice, according to a scientific study in the journal Nature Geoscience.”

Gotta hedge your bets.


17 posted on 04/01/2013 8:11:22 AM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: Mad Dawgg

I must be old, I remember when climate change was called weather.


18 posted on 04/01/2013 8:19:13 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
That's exactly what the third sentence of the summary says.

Only difference is that on Free Republic the understanding is free, but in Goobermint circles that study cost Millions!

19 posted on 04/01/2013 8:20:51 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
“The study in Nature Geoscience also asserts that the cool melt water layer may limit the amount of water sucked from the oceans that falls as snow on Antarctica. Cold air can hold less moisture than warm air.”

Warning!!!! Do not read the article!!! Your IQ WILL fall and you will become dizzy and may faint causing possible injury or death!!

The above excerpt is from the “peer review paper”. I'm not sure what it means. Looks like to me that because of “global warming”, the Antarctic is getting less snow. Because it's colder? Someone please help....

20 posted on 04/01/2013 8:43:27 AM PDT by saleman
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To: Mad Dawgg

When already proven wrong, just call it a ‘paradox’.


21 posted on 04/01/2013 8:44:27 AM PDT by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: Mad Dawgg

A short article, but a fine crop of weasel words:

“may explain”
“is thought to be”
“suggest”
“they tried”
“other plausible explanations”
“possibility remains”
“best guess”
“may limit”


22 posted on 04/01/2013 8:49:21 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

This is a desperate attempt to explain why all their models are wrong and why what they see is the opposite of what they predicted.


23 posted on 04/01/2013 8:58:57 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Perhaps the ice is expanding because there has been no global warming for 15 years and it is getting colder in the Antarctic.

I will make it simple for the the Global Warmists.
1. Cause = Colder Antarctic.
2. Effect = More Ice (It works that way in my freezer)

Click on the link to see map of cooling and warming in the Antarctic.
http://www.iceagenow.com/Antarctica_Growing_Colder.htm


24 posted on 04/01/2013 9:27:37 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: cpdiii

Click on this link for more recent data on Antarctic cooling.
Global Warmest are deeply saddened.

http://www.c3headlines.com/2012/01/antarctica-ipcc-proven-conclusively-wrong-by-newest-research-south-pole-cooling.html


25 posted on 04/01/2013 9:34:01 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Old news. They’ve been claiming global warming is causing more ice for at least 10 years.


26 posted on 04/01/2013 10:14:01 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Mad Dawgg

We can’t win with these people. They move the goal lines at without shame.


27 posted on 04/01/2013 10:18:23 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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To: American in Israel
I must be old, I remember when climate change was called weather.

Yuh.

Now, it's called "politics."

28 posted on 04/01/2013 2:44:10 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
The paradoxical phenomenon is thought to be caused by relatively cold plumes of fresh water derived from melting beneath the Antarctic ice shelves.

To measure this phenomenon would be very easy. All that would be needed is to measure the salt content of the new winter freeze ice of the ice shelf. This would precisely determine what percentage is sea water and new melt water. I notice the article did not explore this. My conclusion is they did not explore this area of research because they knew what they were postulating was pure BULL SH--.

29 posted on 04/03/2013 6:42:26 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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