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Mexican Cartels Getting Strong and Violent Foothold in the United States
Town Hall ^ | Apr. 1, 2013 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 04/01/2013 9:05:00 AM PDT by EXCH54FE

The Associated Press is out with an extensive piece today showing just how far Mexican drug cartels have infiltrated American society. The cartel problem is no longer a border problem, it's a problem for the entire country. Violent cartel members are carrying out crimes in our backyards with the potential to develop into something much worse.

Mexican drug cartels whose operatives once rarely ventured beyond the U.S. border are dispatching some of their most trusted agents to live and work deep inside the United States — an emboldened presence that experts believe is meant to tighten their grip on the world's most lucrative narcotics market and maximize profits.

If left unchecked, authorities say, the cartels' move into the American interior could render the syndicates harder than ever to dislodge and pave the way for them to expand into other criminal enterprises such as prostitution, kidnapping-and-extortion rackets and money laundering.

But a wide-ranging Associated Press review of federal court cases and government drug-enforcement data, plus interviews with many top law enforcement officials, indicate the groups have begun deploying agents from their inner circles to the U.S. Cartel operatives are suspected of running drug-distribution networks in at least nine non-border states, often in middle-class suburbs in the Midwest, South and Northeast.

"It's probably the most serious threat the United States has faced from organized crime," said Jack Riley, head of the Drug Enforcement Administration's Chicago office.

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Mexico; News/Current Events
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The fact is, Phoenix is now the number two city in the world behind Mexico City for kidnapping and sex trafficking from Mexico is already a common occurance.
1 posted on 04/01/2013 9:05:00 AM PDT by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE
Can you for one instant imagine American nationals crossing the border into Canada and pulling s%$# like this?
2 posted on 04/01/2013 9:08:54 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: EXCH54FE

Obamanation Counterculture File.


3 posted on 04/01/2013 9:09:02 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Drug cartels are violent? I thought drug use was a ‘victimless’ crime. (sarcasm)


4 posted on 04/01/2013 9:09:11 AM PDT by STYRO (War sucks. Living in slavery sucks even worse.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Exactly what soetoro wants.


5 posted on 04/01/2013 9:11:16 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: EXCH54FE

There are limits to how far they’ll go. For one thing, American prisons are grim places compared to Mexican ones, which are run by the inmates as low-rent malls where anything ranging from drugs to women can be purchased (watch Mel Gibson’s Get the Gringo to get some of the flavor). For another, it’s a lot harder (actually, well nigh impossible) to buy American public officials to assist in murdering other public officials. And then there’s the existence of capital punishment in the US, vs its absence in Mexico.


6 posted on 04/01/2013 9:12:08 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Graewoulf

Correction

ClintonBushObamanation Counterculture File.


7 posted on 04/01/2013 9:23:42 AM PDT by Tupelo (Old, Bald, Ugly, Fat and Broke in Arizona)
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To: EXCH54FE
There was an article yesterday about the murders in Texas and how the leftist media is pushing the “right-wing white supremacist” angle. I`ve been saying all along that this has all the ear markings of Mexican Narco-terrorists.

PC run amok, and in Texas?

8 posted on 04/01/2013 9:27:07 AM PDT by nomad
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To: EXCH54FE

9 posted on 04/01/2013 9:29:20 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: EXCH54FE

They’re just figuring this out? I guess cheap labor and democrat votes trumps national security. What are the feds going to do when people fight back, and don’t bother to differentiate between the two? What is the fed going to do when people here decide they want a piece of mexico, and decide to take it for themselves? Who’s going to stop them? I think it’s time the gringos get their pound of flesh, right out of the hide of mexico. They have LaRaza, we want blood.


10 posted on 04/01/2013 9:29:28 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Zhang Fei

When these cartels start to think they can begin offing American judges and mayors, congressmen etc like they do south of the border, is when we’ll finally get politicians serious about border control. When the thug Coulter they allow to pour over are borders starts to infringe on their lily white perfect expensive lives, then something will be done to control it.


11 posted on 04/01/2013 9:36:04 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: EXCH54FE

I have employed ex-cons in my business in the past.

A few years ago I had an employee who, after working for me a long time, confided that he had several relatives who were drug cartel members. All were citizens who were born here.

He also related to me how the cartel paid bribes to police officers to get access to secret police reports so they could go after informants.

Its that bad already.


12 posted on 04/01/2013 9:36:41 AM PDT by darth
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To: EXCH54FE
The cartel problem is no longer a border problem, it's a problem for the entire country. Violent cartel members are carrying out crimes in our backyards with the potential to develop into something much worse.

Something that many of us were saying 5 years ago was going to happen. This is not at all a pleasant "I told you so..."

13 posted on 04/01/2013 9:37:16 AM PDT by HiJinx (The New Year is here; to all Men Good Cheer. (Last one out, turn out the lights.))
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To: EXCH54FE; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related threads.

14 posted on 04/01/2013 9:37:52 AM PDT by HiJinx (The New Year is here; to all Men Good Cheer. (Last one out, turn out the lights.))
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To: snarkytart

wth that was suppose to be thug culture. did spell check change it to Coulter? hahaha
Welp


15 posted on 04/01/2013 9:38:07 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: JoeProBono

If you look at that map and keep drawing the arrows north you would see a pretty accurate description of the cartel coverage in the U.S. Over the past 5 years the huge transition in drug trafficking has been to Mexican control. It also could be one of the easiest things to enforce if we simply deported illegals. Instead they defang ICE, and give these criminals dreamer status.


16 posted on 04/01/2013 9:43:57 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Graewoulf

“Obamanation Counterculture File”

As much as I’d love to put everything squarely on Obama, Bush should’ve used 9/11 as an opportunity to shut the borders. Period. Admittedly, the problem existed long before that, but 9/11 would’ve been the perfect “excuse” to shush the naysayers & race baiters.

THIS will be Bush’s legacy


17 posted on 04/01/2013 9:54:48 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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To: All
Mexican drug cartels are coming to America

Link to FR thread on AP story....

18 posted on 04/01/2013 9:55:05 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron. No, they are both.)
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To: EXCH54FE
Part of what's driving this is that many of the kingpins of Mexican drug cartels have been using US-side residences in border cities as safe havens for themselves and their families. So it was only a matter of time before their turf wars and targetted killings would spill over here.

The one good thing that may come of this is that it will wake up a lot of sleeping Americans to the threat posed by Mexico and the types of problems that our de facto open border system has created.

19 posted on 04/01/2013 9:59:15 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: EXCH54FE

I found the movie “End of Watch” qute disturbing, and I’m reasonably sure it made the cartels look like simple playground bullies compared to how they really are. I shudder to think what things will be like in another 5 yrs given our DOJ and Jackass in Chief.


20 posted on 04/01/2013 10:00:06 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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To: nomad

They will not even mention the word cartel down here. I think law enforcement knows this is the cartel setting up shop in the market.


21 posted on 04/01/2013 10:12:06 AM PDT by willyd
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To: EXCH54FE
Don't worry. Homeland Insecurity and the Just Us Department has assessed the situation and will be responding to this threat by targeting dangerous groups like Christians, home schoolers and Conservative Americans.

John McCain approves of this message.

22 posted on 04/01/2013 10:12:36 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: EXCH54FE

The fact is we have a cartel running Wash. DC now.


23 posted on 04/01/2013 10:14:59 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: EXCH54FE

Thank God it’s only people who want jobs that we won’t do coming over the border.


24 posted on 04/01/2013 10:15:16 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Oh....but let’s not focus on Mexican drug cartels, who are killing innocent civilians as we speak, and who will no doubt kill hundreds (thousands?) more...since they are not only not being stopped ....they’re being aided by the Obama administration.

Let’s focus, instead, on the Aryan Nation prison drug gang....who is ‘assumed’ to have killed two people recently. Much more important news, dontcha know!


25 posted on 04/01/2013 10:18:37 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: snarkytart
"When these cartels start to think they can begin offing American judges and mayors, congressmen etc like they do south of the border, is when we’ll finally get politicians serious about border control getting in on their share of the action.

Fixed it for ya'.

26 posted on 04/01/2013 10:20:17 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: snarkytart
When these cartels start to think they can begin offing American judges and mayors, congressmen etc like they do south of the border, is when we’ll finally get politicians serious about border control. When the thug Coulter they allow to pour over are borders starts to infringe on their lily white perfect expensive lives, then something will be done to control it.

You are absolutly correct. Pols like Rohm Emmanuel will demand a piece of the action.

27 posted on 04/01/2013 10:20:34 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: EXCH54FE

So, when a Mexican Drug Cartel sends their 51st hit-man into Texas, will they be forced to provide medical insurance under Obamacare?


28 posted on 04/01/2013 10:23:49 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be your slave)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Darn! You beat me to it and did a better job of it too. I hate you!


29 posted on 04/01/2013 10:26:32 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: STYRO

Bootleggers during Prohibition were violent also.

Now with alcohol legal, we don’t have that problem.


30 posted on 04/01/2013 10:29:04 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: EXCH54FE

they already established a violent foothold in the United States. It happened on November 4, 2008. It is called the Department of Justice. Eric Holder is at its head.


31 posted on 04/01/2013 10:32:51 AM PDT by sport
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To: EXCH54FE
Thanks, War on Drugs, for hyperinflating drug profits and channeling those profits into criminal hands so they can wage war on U.S. soil!
32 posted on 04/01/2013 10:33:43 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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Us Alinsky against them.

For starters, I`ve been to Texas and know that there are Conservative die-hard Texans who are also Hispanic. You recruit them to act as spoke persons.

Then you make it a "for the children" issue with stories of the horrific brutality going on in Mexico- pick a month and search the news releases from the turd world country.

Then gather all the photos of the murder scenes and the funerals you can get, if you belong to a big Tea-Party organization, you may even try getting a volunteer for a fact finding mission to some of the still uncorrupted sources in Mexico, scary mission but at least its a possible site seeing trip.

Then find good conservative politicians to act as front men while you organize marches and mail campaigns to the other pollut-icians and their boot licking press-titute lackeys.

Once and if (god willing) it begins to roll you go to guys like Glenn Beck, who lives in Texas now, and Rush, Drudge, Hannity, Quin and Rose, Mark Levin, in short you play it as big as you can but from the angle of "its a security issue for the children".

And while you`re at it, don`t stop gathering data on the narco atrocities, keep playing up the stories and pictures of the true situation down there."We need a secured border!" is or should be the cry, remember, Its for the children!, oh and with those animals down there, you tell them they can kiss your conservative ass if they think you`ll be disarmed, you need to protect your children.

33 posted on 04/01/2013 11:01:49 AM PDT by nomad
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To: XenaLee; EXCH54FE
That is sort of odd the way she jumps from the AP article to the Briebart article about the Aryan Nation.

Her representation of the AP article is not very accurate, plus she changed the article title.

There is a link in #18 to the actual article which is very informative.

The AP article points that there very ltttle violence associated with the cartel members in the US. They do point out the stats in Texas but mostly that is because many, many cartel members actually live in Texas.

34 posted on 04/01/2013 11:20:18 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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With the murders of the Kaufmann County DA and his wife, and another attorney in hi soffice earlier this year...

The methods (results) of killing using multiple rounds in those murders, is indicative of the style used south of the border in killings of similar people in their legal system..

But, we have assurances from Janet Nepalitano that our borders are as secure as she has ever seen them and that there is NO spillover violence to speak of to this day...

Do I need to??? Ohhhh, ok... /sarc

In addition to the cutting of the BP and their core operational budgets in ALL sectors, it is apparent that the border is being abandoned by the Federal government...

Time for the states to step up and take over...The states need to handle ALL enforcement, arrests, detainment, hearings, and most important a fast track to deportation of non-violent illegal immigrants...Those that are cought doing additional illegalities, should be imprisoned, and when those terms are complete, immediate deportation back to their country of origin...

And when the Feds decide to come back into the game, we deny them that forever...no exceptions...

The states can deduct the money (revenue) we send to D.C. and apply that to their prospective states fund for border enforcement...

As soon as the system is in place then we can form a consortium between the border states, CA, AZ, NM and TX...the northern states can do their thing up there if they feel like it...Thats up to them...

Once we take it, we never relinquish the duties back to the Feds...

And iof they complain, well, theres a pile of sand over there they can go pound on for all I care...

Just my opinion...


35 posted on 04/01/2013 11:23:32 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Tupelo

Sometime maybe you can explain to me the difference between a RINO and a Democrat.

I’m hoping that “both” have redeeming qualities, but I haven’t found many yet - - - .


36 posted on 04/01/2013 11:29:13 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: green iguana

Bootleggers were normally US grown. The cartels are foreign grown illegals for the most part. A little thing like changing US law won’t tame them. They will continue to ignore those laws just like they do every other law.

As long as these drug-addled, selfish wastrels continue to push for supply, there will be vicious, murderous thugs willing to accommodate them.


37 posted on 04/01/2013 11:42:17 AM PDT by Waryone (Trust the Lord not your own understanding. Acknowledge Him. He will direct your path.)
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To: HiJinx

Bumping that!


38 posted on 04/01/2013 11:44:19 AM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Waryone

So you don’t think that legal demand would create a legal supply base?


39 posted on 04/01/2013 11:53:17 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: EXCH54FE
Mexican Cartels Getting Strong and Violent Foothold in the United States

Well, then that settles it.

In the future I'll be buying all my drugs exclusively from the MEXICAN cartel. /s

You always want to do business with numero uno.

40 posted on 04/01/2013 12:03:38 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: green iguana

I think legal demand would cause the illegals to form legal shells but would still deal with their perceived competition the same as they always did.

Remember, we went from alcohol being legal to becoming illegal for a short time then back to being legal again. Drugs have a very long history of being illegal and its foundations are as crooked as can be. It will take more than a change in law to make that which is established by some of the most venomous, perniciously evil organizations ever put together give up their cash cows.


41 posted on 04/01/2013 12:11:26 PM PDT by Waryone (Trust the Lord not your own understanding. Acknowledge Him. He will direct your path.)
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To: Waryone

You may be right. Certainly they would try to protect their livelihoods for as long as they could. But I also think legality would work against them as illegality creates scarcity and drives up prices and profits.

Also - and this only applies to marijuana - it is a very easy to grow plant, as it’s weed nickname would imply. Free (except for whatever tax the state decides to impose) supply could quickly put a dent into the cartels’ business, and there’s little they could do about that except try to move on to something else.


42 posted on 04/01/2013 12:41:25 PM PDT by green iguana
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To: EXCH54FE

And they want to disarm American citizens. Can you imagine not being able to defend yourself when your home is being taken over by drug dealers? Or the U.S. government?


43 posted on 04/01/2013 1:33:33 PM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To: Waryone
As long as these drug-addled, selfish wastrels continue to push for supply, there will be vicious, murderous thugs willing to accommodate them.

Perhaps you didn't notice, but today's liquored-up, selfish wastrel drunks get their booze from liquor stores. During prohibition, they made people like Al Capone rich and powerful.

I fail to see how dope heads would be any different or any worse if we stopped our war on drugs, other than the ingrained hypocrisy of the drug war that protects certain classes of drug dealers (alcohol and tobacco) while making others illicit.

44 posted on 04/01/2013 1:59:50 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: green iguana

They would protect their livelihoods by hook (murder and mayhem) or by crook (bribes and kickbacks). The govt. would surely tax as much of it as they could, but those special bonus payments are just too delicious for the individual govt. officials to pass up. They are as addicted to bribes as drug addicts are devoted to their habits.

Govt. will become honest enforcers of the law at the same time drug addicts realize they have been imprisoned by their drugs — when the Lord returns. Until both wake up and realize that life is more than their appetites, people will suffer and die needlessly.

As for home grown marijuana, govt. will still want its cut, so govt. will regulate it. Which means govt. will eventually confiscate it and decide who can legally manufacture and distribute it (cartel shell companies.). This is one situation where I can truly see govt. (bought and paid for by the cartels) work hand and hand with the cartels. It is naive to think this money source is ever going to be given up.


45 posted on 04/01/2013 2:02:53 PM PDT by Waryone (Trust the Lord not your own understanding. Acknowledge Him. He will direct your path.)
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To: EXCH54FE
So much for the BS "The violence in Mexico will not spill across the border" mantra we have been fed for years. Many of us saw this coming, no one wants to hear it or do anything about it so it is coming soon to everyone.

Instead of hundreds of pounds of weed being seized by BP and others in this area they are now catching thousands of pounds- many tons the last 3 months. Caravans of fully loaded vehicles, armed smugglers, high speed chases, etc. Rival cartels ambush each other- yes on the US side- ranchers and BP have found two murdered smugglers in the last 2 weeks, who knows how many more are laying out there... Illegal traffic is rapidly picking up with our politicians promising amnesty. The border issues are not understood by most people so few voices to speak up. Liberals want to take our guns, yea sure- I'd like to see them live where I do unarmed.

46 posted on 04/01/2013 2:03:19 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Waryone
It will take more than a change in law to make that which is established by some of the most venomous, perniciously evil organizations ever put together give up their cash cows.

If marijuana were legal, it would be cheap and readily available because anybody could grow it. There wouldn't be any money in it, so those who traffic in it illegally would either go out of business or find some other racket. Just as bootleggers did after the end of prohibition.

Incidentally, in 19th century America, opiates and other "drugs" were legal, and you probably had far less crime and far less addiction surrounding them than what we've experienced after the Federal Government declared a "war" on them. Maybe it's time to learn from the mistakes of prohibition?

47 posted on 04/01/2013 2:05:19 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

Open your eyes and you will see. The world is not such a nice place and the people who are involved in the drug dealing world are some of the worst. Al Capone had the US govt. working against him. Is it the same situation for the drug cartels?


48 posted on 04/01/2013 2:07:20 PM PDT by Waryone (Trust the Lord not your own understanding. Acknowledge Him. He will direct your path.)
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To: Tammy8
So much for the BS "The violence in Mexico will not spill across the border" mantra we have been fed for years

There is a way to keep not only the violence but all of Mexico's social problems from spilling across the border: by enforcing who and what crosses it. Instead, we're importing gangs and all sort of other riff-raff by the barrel-full.

49 posted on 04/01/2013 2:08:23 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Zhang Fei

Newsflash for you, Cartel people live pretty good in our prisons as well...money and power talk here as well.

If you think there are limits to what the Cartels will do you are sadly mistaken. They will do the same here that they do in Mexico- who is going to stop them? How many Cartel members do you think are about to get amnesty?

Our authorities can and are bought by Cartels, have been for years near the border- they are growing and branching out, this will spread like wildfire just as it did in Mexico.

If you think not, just watch.


50 posted on 04/01/2013 2:10:20 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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