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Musician delivered from homosexuality, happily married for 29 years
GodReports ^ | March 18, 2013 | Mark Ellis

Posted on 04/01/2013 11:12:14 AM PDT by fwdude

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To: fwdude

The scientific study of mental functions and behaviors is antithetical to God?

FWIW, I am a big fan of nouthetic counseling, a biblical approach to counseling first proposed by Jay Adams and more recently associated with David Powlison and others. I appreciate the work of the Christian Counseling & Educational Foundation (CCEF).

That said, I maintain that God conceived of our “mental functions and behaviors,” and enjoys when people study these things. I also maintain that God does perform miracles, and sometimes He transforms people over time.


21 posted on 04/02/2013 8:09:53 AM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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I am a big fan of nouthetic counseling, a biblical approach to counseling first proposed by Jay Adams and more recently associated with David Powlison and others.

So, explain how saints throughout the centuries went WITHOUT what "Christian psychologist" claim is indispensable to treating their patients.

It is pagan from its roots, and it cannot be "Christianized."

22 posted on 04/02/2013 8:25:50 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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I understand your position. I understand the concern many Christians have about “therapeutic” counseling.

You use the word “indispensable” in your comment, and I’m not sure why. I’ve gone out of my way to say that God does do miracles, that some people are miraculously healed and delivered in an instant. And I affirm so-called “biblical counseling.” I **also** recognize that sometimes God delivers people not in an instant, but sanctifies them over time.

Not sure why you want to argue with me, to be honest.


23 posted on 04/02/2013 8:58:14 AM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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Are you familiar with the work of David Powlison? If not, I encourage you to click over here and scan (or read) an article he wrote that challenges therapeutic counseling. I think you’ll enjoy it.

http://www.9marks.org/journal/what-wrong-therapeutic-approach-counseling


24 posted on 04/02/2013 9:00:23 AM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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I’ll give it my best read. Thanks.


25 posted on 04/02/2013 9:06:10 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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You use the word “indispensable” in your comment, and I’m not sure why.

These counselors are completely sold on their professions, otherwise they wouldn't claim it.

26 posted on 04/02/2013 9:08:26 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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Jernigan let God use him and God took him from that sinful lifestyle into a man that God has used in awesome ways.

I really like his music and his story.


27 posted on 04/02/2013 9:08:46 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Avenge me Girls AVENEGE ME!!!! ( I don't have any son's))
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