Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Sanford Agonistes (Former South Carolina Governor likely to win Tim Scott's Vacated House Seat)
National Review ^ | 04/02/2013 | Betsy Woodruff

Posted on 04/02/2013 9:44:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

‘Mark Sanford Gets Resurrected” — it’s the perfect headline for Easter Week. Sanford, the South Carolina congressman-turned-governor who fell from grace (and from office) when he surreptitiously slipped off to Argentina to meet a lover, is back. Polls seem to indicate that he’ll coast to victory in a runoff against Curtis Bostic to fill the House seat Tim Scott vacated when he was appointed to the Senate.

Though Bostic has positioned himself as far to the right as possible — the URL for his campaign website is StopSpending.com, and Rick Santorum recently stumped for him — Sanford has touted his experience in the capitol and the statehouse to no small effect. He won the primary with 37 percent of the vote, almost three times the support Bostic garnered. Things are good in Sanford World, and they seem to be getting better. Public Policy Polling recently gave Sanford 53 percent of the vote to Bostic’s 40.

Not everyone is surprised. “He’s a professional politician,” says Katon Dawson, a national Republican consultant and former chairman of the state’s party. “He’s good at this.”

To be sure, it’s still premature to say Sanford has the victory locked up. Insiders estimate that only 25,000 to 35,000 people will vote, which makes predictions little more than an educated guessing game. Plus, Bostic’s supporters are devoted — in particular homeschoolers, seeing as Bostic is himself a homeschooling father of five. At least one homeschool-activism group, Generation Joshua, is coordinating a small last-minute get-out-the-vote push.

But Sanford probably woke up this morning feeling more confident than Bostic. Sanford’s main advantage seems to be that he’s a proven quantity with a long record to run on. And although Bostic has drawn endorsements from many out-of-state conservative leaders, six of the beaten primary contenders have endorsed the former governor.

One of those contenders, Jonathan Rath Hoffman, says that Sanford’s past might not be the Achilles’s heel that Democrats are hoping for. “The good thing about Mark Sanford is, right now, you know what you’re getting,” he says. “And I think that’s really helped him, because people know who he is, they know every detail of his past and where he’s been and what he’s been through and what he stands for. And for the most part, people are willing to forgive.”

And former Sanford insiders think that confidence is warranted. I spoke with a number of his former congressional staffers — he served three terms, from 1995 to 2001 — and they all seemed devoted and loyal to their former boss. True, not everyone who worked for him is a fan, and not everyone I contacted called me back, but the people I spoke with painted a fairly consistent picture of Representative Sanford: a serious, no-nonsense, hard-working politician who was more interested in voting his principles than in kowtowing to leadership.

His staffers say they were surprised by his Argentinian dalliance, since his time in D.C. was characterized by a near-monastic lifestyle; Sanford followed a rigid schedule dominated by work and exercise, and spent the rest of his little free time with male friends (especially then-representative Lindsey Graham and Steve Largent). “He slept in his office, showered in the members’ gym,” says one former staffer. “He went to some receptions — I mean it was probably a lot for the free food, because he was so cheap.”

Staffers say that living out of his Hill office would have made it particularly difficult (though not impossible) to keep extracurricular activities under wraps — especially since many of his staffers worked late. “I certainly wouldn’t call Mark a lighthearted guy,” says one former staffer. “When you were at work, you were there to work. It was serious.”

But that didn’t curtail many staffers’ dedication. “He is a personality that inspires loyalty,” one says. “I mean, it was kind of an us-against-the-world thing then. He was the guy along with Ron Paul voting no.”

A few former staffers say that he expected his aides to scrutinize every vote and debate whether or not policies fit his governing philosophy. One staffer took that method to its logical conclusion, inviting lobbyists from opposite sides of an issue to come to the same meetings — unbeknownst to them — and have impromptu debates about how the congressman should vote. Once, for example, the staffer invited the congressman to catch the end of a debate between two lobbyists over telecommunications policy. Sanford thought the unconventional approach was clever, the staffer says.

If most observers’ predictions are borne out today, Sanford will be within spitting distance of his old digs on Capitol Hill. Regardless of tomorrow’s outcome, the race for Tim Scott’s old seat should make for great political theater. “It’ll be fun,” Dawson says. “Painful, but fun.”

— Betsy Woodruff is a William F. Buckley Fellow at the National Review Institute.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 113th; congress; elizabethbusch; marksanford; redemption; sanford; sc2013; sin; southcarolina; stephencolbert

1 posted on 04/02/2013 9:44:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Just like d.c.’s mary-ann berry? Don’t these asshats have ANY brains? Sheesh!


2 posted on 04/02/2013 9:47:55 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rktman

Nope. People seem to absolutely celebrate corruption and evil these days. Maybe they figure that other people’s corruptness somehow exonerates their own.


3 posted on 04/02/2013 9:49:57 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

You’ve got to ask, what is wrong with voters? And the jerks that will put this proven jerk into office are my neighbors. Makes you want to give up in the whole system. How will I be able to proudly say,” my representative is Mark Sandford, you know, the one who left up his wife and ran off with a Brazillian bimbo on our tax dollars?”


4 posted on 04/02/2013 9:51:29 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( EVERY DIME Obama Spends is given to him by the Republicans in the House.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ThePatriotsFlag
You’ve got to ask, what is wrong with voters?

Most people are followers, easily fooled. It's always been that way throughout human history, and it will never change. Sanford is a slimeball, but he's a skilled politician and that makes a great deal of difference. In the end if he winds up as our nominee (which is likely), I would vote for him over the Democrat - and I think most conservatives will make the same choice when that time comes.

5 posted on 04/02/2013 9:59:07 AM PDT by Longbow1969
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

We have a choice between Sanford and Steve Colbert’s sister. Since I take tremendous pride in the fact that I vote in every election, this is a no brainier to figure who I will vote for.

Like it or not, we know this scum bag and he is consistent. We have made our contribution to the US Senate by electing Tim Scott to this seat two years ago. (We love Tim Scott back home. He’s the real thing) Maybe trusting us with Sanford would be nice. Or else it’s Colbert’s liberal sister.


6 posted on 04/02/2013 10:02:59 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: submarinerswife

OK, his adultery aside, what were Sanford’s policies when he was governor of South Carolina?

I’d like to know where he stands on the following issues -— taxes, debt, Obamacare, balanced budget, abortion, gay marriage...


7 posted on 04/02/2013 10:05:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Lindsey Graham is one of his friends? That’s much more offensive than the affair with the Argentinian bimbo.


8 posted on 04/02/2013 10:07:36 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

“what were Sanford’s policies when he was governor of South Carolina?”

He leans libertarian. I thought it was a good thing that he was running for congress until I read about the Lindsey Graham connection.


9 posted on 04/02/2013 10:11:02 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
...Sanford has touted his experience in the capitol and the statehouse to no small effect.

Not to mention his experience in international affairs.

10 posted on 04/02/2013 10:17:27 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
"OK, his adultery aside, what were Sanford’s policies when he was governor of South Carolina?'

In my opinion, Sanford talked the conservative talk but was not effective in walking the walk. He accomplished little and spent most of the time fighting with his own party that was in control of the legislature.

Assuming Sanford is the GOP nominee, the race is not an automatic win for Republicans. Charleston and Horry county are no longer rock ribbed conservative bastions and the adultery issue will hurt Sanford. Colbert will make it interesting.

11 posted on 04/02/2013 10:21:01 AM PDT by buckalfa (Tilting at Windmills)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: DoodleDawg
Not to mention his experience in international affairs.

"Affairs of State must take precendence over the uhhhh, Affairs of State."

12 posted on 04/02/2013 10:23:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
OK, his adultery aside, what were Sanford’s policies when he was governor of South Carolina?

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

13 posted on 04/02/2013 10:24:14 AM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: BarnacleCenturion
He leans libertarian.

LOL, no kidding.

14 posted on 04/02/2013 10:28:52 AM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
In comparison with Willie Jeff and Senator Menendez, I would say that Sanford's trangression was fairly mild.

Sanford's problem is between God, his wife and his family.

Maybe some here cannot forgive him, but before his personal failing, he was a pretty good conservate...even touted as a "rising star in the Republican party".

The problem here is that the R's get on their moral high horse and destroy candidates who otherwise would do a better "political" job than their D opponent.

Todd Aiken was destroyed for a dumb ass statement he made, apologized, but it was too late...and now we are stuck with Claire McCaskill for at least 6 more years.

Government these days is not church. It is populated with reprobates, all kinds of crooks, adulterers, womanizers, embezzlers, liers, and maybe worse.

I have given up on the majority of members of Congress being honorable, dignified people. I will take their personal failures if they will support maximum freedom for the rest of us.

I see that Sanford's D opponent is Steven Colberts sister, a liberal...She may be as pure as the driven snow...

...but she absolutely is not in favor of max freedom for the rest of us.

So I would have to go with Sanford with all his warts....but that's just me...

15 posted on 04/02/2013 10:56:05 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance........)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: B.O. Plenty; dfwgator

It is time to elect a new world leader, and only your vote counts. Here are the facts about the ONLY three leading candidates.

Candidate A - Associates with crooked politicians, and consults with astrologists. He’s had two Mistresses. He also chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day.

Candidate B - He was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in college and drinks a quart of whiskey every evening.

Candidate C - He is a decorated war hero. He’s a vegetarian, doesn’t smoke, drinks an occasional beer and never cheated on his wife.

Which of these candidates would be your choice?


16 posted on 04/02/2013 10:59:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

A = Reagan
B = Churchill
C = Hitler

Am I right?


17 posted on 04/02/2013 11:01:01 AM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

You are right except for A.

A=Franklin D. Roosevelt


18 posted on 04/02/2013 11:01:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I realized that after I answered.


19 posted on 04/02/2013 11:02:17 AM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

But be fair, Hitler wasn’t married. And Churchill was very devoted to Clementine.


20 posted on 04/02/2013 11:03:38 AM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: mrsmel
Sanford has been divorced since 2010 and is "engaged" to his Argentinian girlfriend. If he would just go ahead and marry her, he'd be on the same level as lots of other Washington politicians who have gotten divorced and then remarried--apart from the way he humiliated his then-wife by the media attention his affair garnered.

Not to condone his behavior but it isn't out of the ordinary for politicians.

I don't know if there is some legal obstacle that is delaying his getting married again--or if the claim that they are "engaged" is just a sham and he feels that the public doesn't (by and large) hold cohabitation without marriage against politicians nowadays.

21 posted on 04/02/2013 11:05:07 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: ansel12; BarnacleCenturion
He leans libertarian.

LOL, no kidding.


And I'll bet BC didn't even see the irony in that whole setup.
22 posted on 04/02/2013 11:06:30 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Verginius Rufus
Not to condone his behavior but it isn't out of the ordinary for politicians.

And we let it get to the point where it doesn't matter anymore....we just keep dropping our standards more and more, it's no wonder we find ourselves where we are now.

23 posted on 04/02/2013 11:07:01 AM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Adultery is a sin, but his ex never stuck me as a woman who would be all that amorous.

On the other hand, maybe he couldn’t relate to a strong woman.


24 posted on 04/02/2013 11:23:30 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

If this guy was a Democrat, he’d have a show on some cable news network and be talked about as a potential future candidate for POTUS.


25 posted on 04/02/2013 11:33:19 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
You want us to say candidate C....

..if these were the only things we knew, but..

I would submit that if candidate C turned out to be a left wing liberal who was for abortion, gay marrage, gun control and bigger government, he would be a horrible choice, IMO.

There are absolutely liberals with impeccable morals...but deliver tyranny. I think that Senator Inoye might have been one of them.

Senator John Glenn was another...

Senator George McGovern was another...war heros, every one...

26 posted on 04/02/2013 11:43:37 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance........)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: B.O. Plenty

RE: There are absolutely liberals with impeccable morals...but deliver tyranny. I think that Senator Inoye might have been one of them.

So, in a theoretical match-up between Mark Sanford and Daniel Inouye, who to vote for?


27 posted on 04/02/2013 11:45:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Hah...you suckered me in...


28 posted on 04/02/2013 11:46:54 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance........)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: SeaHawkFan

What gets forgotten about this guy is the security issues, he disappeared and left the country leaving the state rudderless and his security people in the dark and a panic ensued, the Lt. Governor, not even his wife knew what had happened to him, and they found his car abandoned.

It was when the search started for the Governor during a time of terrorism and war, that he sneaked back into the country, seeming to think that he was just like a teen who sneaked out for a nighttime adventure.

This guy is not playing with a full deck and does not have a full grasp on reality.


29 posted on 04/02/2013 11:50:36 AM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: ansel12

It’s not even about having a mistress, yes I accept that most politicians get some nookie on the side, but usually they don’t let it affect the performance of their duties.

In this case, it did affect Sanford’s job performance.


30 posted on 04/02/2013 11:52:29 AM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
So, in a theoretical match-up between Mark Sanford and Daniel Inouye, who to vote for?

Sanford. He has a pulse.

31 posted on 04/02/2013 12:04:39 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: B.O. Plenty
I know what you are trying to say but there is more to the Sanford fiasco than that.

First, let me say that on most policy issues that I probably agree with Sanford. The big problem I have with Sanford is that he left the country, told no one (including aides) where he was at going and the Appalachian Trail wasn't it. I equate this to abandoning your post or going AWOL. Then there was the whole press conference incident where he had his “wife” there and then proclaimed his love for his true soul-mate (not his wife). He's definitely full of himself.

I know people aren't perfect but as long as he's “our philanderer” who hangs everyone out to dry, I guess it's OK to vote for him.

32 posted on 04/02/2013 12:07:12 PM PDT by Mr Fuji
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator
It's what Moynihan called "defining deviancy down," I think.

Of course in the "good old days" political leaders had many mistresses, everyone knew about them, and it didn't matter. Henry VIII, Charles II, Louis XIV, Louis XV, etc. Not to mention Biblical times (Solomon's 700 wives and 300 concubines).

33 posted on 04/02/2013 12:07:23 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: ansel12; dfwgator

That’s my major beef with the whole ordeal with Sanford.


34 posted on 04/02/2013 12:08:42 PM PDT by Mr Fuji
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Verginius Rufus

RE: Sanford. He has a pulse.

OK Wise guy, assuming we have a LIVING, BREATHING Inouye today, in a theoretical match-up between Mark Sanford and a LIVING Daniel Inouye, who to vote for?


35 posted on 04/02/2013 12:10:01 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

“The good thing about Mark Sanford is, right now, you know what you’re getting,”

Yeh, thats the problem.


36 posted on 04/02/2013 12:15:04 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ansel12

I would vote for just about any Republican over Sanford, but Sanford over a Democrat.


37 posted on 04/02/2013 12:29:45 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: B.O. Plenty
I have given up on the majority of members of Congress being honorable, dignified people. I will take their personal failures if they will support maximum freedom for the rest of us.

I can understand that, considering that the generation of politcians from hereout will be children of Sixties and later-there will be hardly any who aren't going to be products of that time with all that comes with it-I just don't see how we can ever so naively trust them now to have integrity on policies when integrity in their personal lives or financial dealings means so little. I mean, look at how many flip-flop on issues, just days after they make statements vowing to fight for the conservative stance. It's just that easy for them. How can they be trusted? And that lack of integrity seems to make them more easily pressured, bought off, etc. Look at the "conservative" governors flip-flopping on Obamacare, Republican Congressmen caving on sodomites in the military. And they are champing at the bit to pass amnesty, and they never let it go, no matter how many times conservative rank and file quash them for a period.
38 posted on 04/02/2013 12:52:02 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Mr Fuji
We will have to see how this plays out..and IF he has learned from his failings. It is said what does not kill me, only makes me stronger...and I would hope that for him.

You will NEVER see libs destroying a political ally for some kind of moral failing....and given this political climate, why should we?

I just hope that Sanford makes peace with God, and pushes politics toward max freedom for all of us....

...krap, Tiger Woods stumbled, hit the bottom, but now is back on track....apparently everybody loves him again..

Jesus's admonishment often was "go...and sin no more". What more can we do?

39 posted on 04/02/2013 2:27:09 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance........)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Should be “Sanford Erastes” — he’s a lover, not a fighter.


40 posted on 04/02/2013 2:56:29 PM PDT by x
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Inouye was an American hero and a better man, but I would vote for Sanford—Inouye would vote lockstep with the Democratic Party almost always, if not always.


41 posted on 04/02/2013 3:04:09 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: x
The title may be inspired by Samson Agonistes. Samson was a lover as well as a fighter.

Garry Wills wrote a book about Nixon called Nixon Agonistes.

I think the last Republican President known to have been a "lover" in the sense of having one or more extra-marital affairs is Warren G. Harding, and before that James A. Garfield (one). Allegations have been made about Ike but as far as I know never proven.

42 posted on 04/02/2013 3:11:55 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: buckalfa

You’re here in SC, how much can any Governor get down down here? Our Governor does not have the power other’s do, you should know that.

Sanford was a good Governor but we had an awful legislature he had to deal with and lots of rhinos. I support Sanford and his politics.

I don’t hold it against him that he fell in love with another woman and made a stupid mistake. I wish he just would have ended it with his wife and then got involved but it doesn’t change his politics.

Would you rather have a democrat. I think he can eventually beat Colbert-Bush if he wind the run off.


43 posted on 04/02/2013 4:02:29 PM PDT by snippy_about_it
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: snippy_about_it
I recognize the SC constitution rests more power in the legislature rather than the governor's office. I recognize Sanford and Haley are better than the alternative. My disappointment is with SC state/local government as a whole. The Good Old Boy network. Crony capitalism at its best in rewarding patronage and bribing corporations to open shop in state. SC really does not deserve its conservative label. Tax and spend is the game and social issue conservatives are heading to minority status. SC will be a purple state like NC by 2018.
44 posted on 04/02/2013 5:16:58 PM PDT by buckalfa (Tilting at Windmills)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: submarinerswife
"Like it or not, we know this scum bag and he is consistent"

A vote for Sanford is a vote for gay marriage. You can't hold on to the belief of the sanctity and sacredness of the holy sacrement of marriage", and vote for the Appalachian Adulterer. Your vote makes a lie out of the conservative platform and it's principles while emboldening the enemies of traditional marriage. Either that or I guess Bill's Monica thing wasn't worthy of impeachment after all.

45 posted on 04/02/2013 6:33:57 PM PDT by blaquebyrd
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: ThePatriotsFlag

It is a bitter pill. After even hoping that the pathetic, lying bird dogger would run for president! What an idiot I was! What a cruel thing he did, not just to his state, but to his party and conservatives. He’s a vile hypocrite, and the kindest thing he did was to leave and not make us look at him. Then he insists on coming back, probably will get into office by all the men who envy him Maria de Pantalones Calientes. who know, Markies so far gone he probably rents her out...


46 posted on 04/02/2013 8:19:52 PM PDT by Mamzelle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: buckalfa

Careful..we’ve got pros on Sanford threads. You can tell when they talk in carefully diplomatic ways and soft pedal Sanford’s outrages. .They won’t discuss, for instance, Sanford going AWOL or attempting to use public funds to buy plane tickets and crates full of sex toys. (OK, I made up the sex toy part. Mark the Gigolo likely made poor Jennie foot the bill for the roses and candy he brought to La Puta Tan Caliente)


47 posted on 04/02/2013 8:25:50 PM PDT by Mamzelle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson