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Scientists Want to Scavenge Aborted Fetal Eggs for IVF Treatment
Life News ^ | April 2, 2013 | Wesley J. Smith

Posted on 04/02/2013 2:44:34 PM PDT by NYer

Scientists are keeping aborted fetal ovaries alive in order to scavenge their eggs.

From the Daily News story:

Scientists are ready to plunder the ovaries of aborted babies for eggs to use in IVF treatment. Experiments have taken the process almost to completion, it emerged yesterday. They raise the nightmare prospect of a child whose biological mother has never been born. The news, from a scientific conference in Madrid, was greeted with widespread revulsion at how far science is testing ethical frontiers. Experts warned of appalling emotional and biological problems.

But fertility doctors say the development could ease a worldwide shortage of donated eggs for women who cannot produce their own…Scientists have known for some time that female foetuses develop ovaries after as little as 16 weeks in the womb. Now researchers from Israel and the Netherlands have kept ovarian tissue from aborted foetuses alive in the laboratory for several weeks. They stopped the experiment at the point where they believed eggs were about to be produced. Chief researcher Dr Tal Biron-Shental said it was ‘theoretically possible’ that with extra hormone treatment they could have produced mature eggs suitable for IVF use.

This isn’t new. I reported on these efforts a few years ago. Some have even called for paying women who want to abort to carry their babies longer so that the cadaver will provide more useful parts.

By the way, it isn’t IVF for which the eggs will be required, but human cloning. Somatic cell nuclear transfer cloning requires a human egg for each try and eggs are in short supply. Indeed, I have frequently noted that the technology has been held back by what I call the “egg dearth.”

But if they can get unlimited eggs from dead fetuses and women, cloning will not only be successfully performed (which, I predicted, will happen this year) but eventually perfected and put to concerted use. Then, it is on to all the Brave New World technologies–such as genetic engineering–that require cloning to develop.

Killing the fetuses and keeping their ovaries alive. That makes the scientists complicit in the abortions. Think about what we are becoming.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Philosophy; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abortion; infertility; ivf; moralabsolutes

1 posted on 04/02/2013 2:44:34 PM PDT by NYer
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah; narses

They raise the nightmare prospect of a child whose biological mother has never been born.

Children have a right to a mother and a father. They have a right to know their heritage and family medical history. Imagine learning that your mother was never born!

2 posted on 04/02/2013 2:46:28 PM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Of possible interest, ping!


3 posted on 04/02/2013 2:50:10 PM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: NYer

Ghouls.


4 posted on 04/02/2013 2:51:01 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: NYer

This exemplifies nihilism. Perfect example of liberal thinking. Nothing matters, there is nothing, we are nothing, you are nothing, nothing is anything, etc etc.


5 posted on 04/02/2013 2:54:58 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: NYer

Mary Shelley (the author of the Frankenstein book) was ahead of her time. The final judgment of Almighty God on this depraved world will be justly deserved!


6 posted on 04/02/2013 3:09:57 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: NYer

I’m speechless. Really.


7 posted on 04/02/2013 3:34:58 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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To: boatbums

Interesting tidbit:

Mary Shelley got her story by re-telling the tale of the “gollum” told to her by her Jewish nanny.


8 posted on 04/02/2013 3:44:57 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: NYer
Imagine if the "mother" who was paid to carry the child longer to harvest it's eggs, went into labor too soon.

If the child was to be killed anyway, it wouldn't be a terrible thing to keep it alive just a little longer for the purposes of letting the eggs mature, would it? Why not keep it alive for just a few more weeks outside of the mother's body in some type of fluid filled chamber and with life supporting machines until the time is right to "harvest" it's organs?

Maybe, if we get good enough at it, we can keep it alive for years harvesting it's body parts.

/sarc

These people are ghouls. We are doomed.

9 posted on 04/02/2013 4:05:50 PM PDT by nitzy (You can avoid reality but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.)
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To: boatbums; netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...
I recall several years ago when a UK journal published an article on these advances being made by scientists to cull eggs from the ovaries of aborted fetuses. At the time, it was determined that society was not ready to accept this option and the studies were shelved. Apparently, they have dusted off their previous work and now feel we can handle it. Judging from the lack of response to this thread, I guess they were right.

As an adoptee and adoptive parent, I appreciate the need and desire to know one's biological parents. Each time we visit a doctor, the question of "is there a history of _______ (fill in the blank) disease in your family", goes unanswered. Adoption does not come with such specific data.

I will never forget a GMA segment several years ago, which featured a teen girl, born through donor insemination to a single woman. She wanted to meet her biological father. (This is a perfectly natural desire, especially in the teen years when they are trying to establish themselves). As it turned out, the lab which supplied the semen had cooperated and GMA arranged for the young lady to meet her "dad" through video communication. When the man appeared on the video screen, along with his wife and two young boys, the girl blushed. She had questions! Did he have big feet? Yes! She explained that her feet were so much larger than her friends and those of her mom. More questions followed. Then, the GMA hostette had a question: "Do you know if you have other children from the donations you made at the sperm bank?" He smiled: "From what I understand, I have several hundred .... and I hope they don't all come looking for me."

The blush disappeared from the young girl's face. The smile rapidly became downcast, as reality set in. The desire to find a "dad" had resulted in discovering nothing more than a "sperm donor". She was one of hundreds ... commodities of a self-centered and greedy society.

Since then, the situation has been exacerbated with the growth of IVF conceptions and now, with homosexual unions, the intervention of women who are willing to be inseminated by their sperm and carry "their" child to term. When NBC hostess Jenna Wolfe outed herself and announced she "and her partner" were pregnant, my first question was "who is the father?" What sort of love is this when we deny a child to their bithrite? Will the father be a presence in the child's life? Will the chid be raised knowing she has a father and .. most important of all .. what she has genetically inherited from him?

Children, in contemporary society, have become nothing more than commodities, like furniture. What sort of society have we created?

10 posted on 04/02/2013 4:10:06 PM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Agree - there are no words to describe how sick this reproductive experimentation has become.

I happen to believe there is a reason for ‘Ancestry.com’ is so popular. The human heart seeks to connect with our family roots.

The future holds no such promise. Gay ‘marriage’ is just the portent of the human race - God’s splendid creation - stolen by Satan and his perverts.


11 posted on 04/02/2013 4:16:20 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: NYer

With news like this I am tempted to be I’m close to being joyful that NK will launch a successful EMP attack and put us back 3 centuries. I am ready to sign out of this nightmare. But, in His time


12 posted on 04/02/2013 4:27:50 PM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: NYer

I honestly did not thing anyone could sink lower than muslims but this takes the cake.

There are no words to describe my revulsion.


13 posted on 04/02/2013 4:36:19 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: All

This makes me truly weep. How this must wound the Sacred Heart of Jesus!

Father in Heaven, I am so ashamed. Have Mercy on us.

Going to pray the Chaplet of Divine Mercy now.


14 posted on 04/02/2013 4:47:10 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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To: NYer
And just to add to the general nastiness --

Since nobody knows who their daddy is, we're going to have LOTS of half-brothers and half-sisters inadvertently marrying each other. Especially since you have these jokers who have hundreds of sperm-donor offspring all over the country.

This has already become a problem in the dog world. AKC allows AI breeding, and it's certainly convenient and less risky for sire and dam, BUT there's a downside. Because a sire can father hundreds and hundreds of puppies via AI, many more than he can through live cover, when a dog becomes very popular (as a show winner, or a field trial winner, or whatever), not only does everybody want to breed to him, everybody CAN. There was an admittedly stellar field trial dog - 2XNAFC 2XCNAFC FC CFC EbonStar Lean Mac - won the National Field trial twice, and was very "prepotent" i.e. passed his winning characteristics on to his offspring. So everybody had puppies by him. Now, you're hard put to find a pedigree that doesn't have him in it (often multiple times), which has become a problem because he seems to have carried a couple of genetic faults along with his winning ways . . . so now people are advertising stud dogs in the retriever magazines as "NO LEAN MAC" . . . !

To apply this thinking to humans is stupidity on a colossal scale, for lots of reasons.

15 posted on 04/02/2013 4:54:19 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Wasn’t it also you who told me about modern Siamese cats having their basic temperament changed by one elegant but ill tempered tom some years ago? Very popular because he was typey, and his nasty nature bred true as well?


16 posted on 04/02/2013 5:08:45 PM PDT by Fire_on_High (RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
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To: NYer

I was going to say this is Madness. But it really is EVIL! Imagine the psychological craziness of discovering your real mother, your biological mother was a dead fetus, someone who never knew life beyond the womb. Insanity!


17 posted on 04/02/2013 5:11:44 PM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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To: Fire_on_High
That's correct -- the guilty party was GC, BW, NW Thaibok Teriyaki, DM.

His g-g-g grandson was my big old Attack Cat, Finn MacCoul.

That's him in front. He was a one-man cat. Bit everybody but me. Dogs feared him.

18 posted on 04/02/2013 5:20:47 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: NYer

Coming to a for profit lab near you, babies on bottles growing repair parts so our ruling elite class may live forever. Fiction? Has the Red Chinese prison system run out of kidneys, livers and other parts?


19 posted on 04/02/2013 7:08:37 PM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: NYer
I sincerely believe that one of the major reasons why some couples are infertile and unable to have biological children is just so that they could adopt orphaned children. God knows that there will be children who need parents when something happens to their own, so I have a moral problem with people going to such extremes as IVF and all the attendant "issues" that go along with the procedure (i.e., status of extra embryos; multiple implantation and "selective" abortion; etc.). I'm sure you thank God for your adoptive parents and that they love you no different than they would biological children. ALL children deserve to know that love.

I have come to believe that we are living in a modern-day Tower of Babel situation, where mankind ventures too far into those areas that belong to God alone. Look at the massive outlays of billions of dollar to discover the "god particle"! It demonstrates how far from the truth mankind has veered in the pursuit of the truth and the subsequent "meaning" of life. Our destruction will be well deserved.

20 posted on 04/02/2013 8:34:21 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Jewbacca
Interesting tidbit: Mary Shelley got her story by re-telling the tale of the “gollum” told to her by her Jewish nanny.

Interesting indeed! I found this info on Wikipedia:

    The earliest stories of golems date to early Judaism. In the Talmud (Tractate Sanhedrin 38b), Adam was initially created as a golem (גולם) when his dust was "kneaded into a shapeless husk." Like Adam, all golems are created from mud. They were a creation of those who were very holy and close to God. A very holy person was one who strove to approach God, and in that pursuit would gain some of God's wisdom and power. One of these powers was the creation of life. However, no matter how holy a person became, a being created by that person would be but a shadow of one created by God. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golem.

I imagine that man, in his attempts to "play god" and create human life outside of God's design, will only be able to create a shadow of a human. The whole idea of human cloning, taken to the extent like geneticists are doing with farm animals, gives me the creeps! I think it could possibly be the last straw before God intervenes in a most unpleasant manner.

21 posted on 04/02/2013 9:18:23 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: This I Wonder32460

Sounds like a plot of a Sci-Fi horror movie!


22 posted on 04/02/2013 9:28:28 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: This I Wonder32460; NYer; All
This issue was discussed back in 2009 here on the issue of using aborted baby's organs for transplants Chuck Colson: A Gruesome Harvest - Aborted Fetuses and Their Organs. We are moving headlong into very dangerous territory and it doesn't look as though anyone's changing course!
23 posted on 04/02/2013 9:39:48 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: NYer

Meh, Nancy Reagan should be happy...


24 posted on 04/03/2013 7:59:15 AM PDT by matginzac
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