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Senators have doubts about universal background checks for gun transfers
Washington Times ^ | March 31, 2013 | David Sherfinski

Posted on 04/02/2013 4:41:18 PM PDT by neverdem

Senators from both parties signaled Sunday that universal background checks could be the next gun measure to get shoved toward the legislative scrap heap or significantly watered down.

Sen. Charles E. Schumer, whose bill to expand background checks to cover virtually all gun transactions, including private sales, has cleared the Judiciary Committee, said he is nevertheless hunting for a compromise on the issue.

“I’m working very hard with both Democrats and Republicans, pro-NRA and anti-NRA people, to come up with a background check bill that will be acceptable to 60 senators and be very strong and get the job done,” the New York Democrat said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “It’s very hard. We’re working hard, and I’m very hopeful that we can get this passed.”

Two Republican senators who are backing legislation to clarify the definition of people adjudicated mentally ill who are not allowed to own or purchase guns appeared skeptical that Mr. Schumer’s measure could pass the Senate as written.

Sen. Jeff Flake of Arizona called universal checks “a bridge too far for most of us.”

“Well, the paperwork requirements alone would be significant, and even if there are exemptions for a father passing on a gun to his son or daughter, you’d still have issues with people in a private setting transferring or loaning a gun for somebody,” Mr. Flake said later on the program.

Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said that out of about 80,000 people who failed background checks last year, just 66 were prosecuted.

“Why in the world would you expand that system if you’re not enforcing the law that exists today to include private transfers?” Mr. Graham said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “So I think that legislation is going nowhere...”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
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1 posted on 04/02/2013 4:41:18 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

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2 posted on 04/02/2013 4:48:09 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: neverdem

Meanwhile in CT the Dems are going full tilt to ban as much as possible and forcing a ECert thru tomorrow, trying to outdo Cuomo.


4 posted on 04/02/2013 4:48:21 PM PDT by matt04
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To: neverdem

I have a compromise for Chucky. We impeach him and send him to jail for violating his oath of office.


5 posted on 04/02/2013 4:49:07 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Hardaroni

Open defiance combined with armed resistance is the only thing they’ll understand.

What would Michael Collins do?


6 posted on 04/02/2013 4:49:28 PM PDT by Noumenon (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: neverdem
Make your fire count.
Here's a list of the UBC squishy Republican Senators to contact:

Here's the roll call for that amendment, sponsored by Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch: There's been so much turnover since that vote that only 10 of the 47 remain in the Senate: Hatch,
Mississippi Sen. Thad Cochran,
Maine Sen. Susan Collins,
Idaho Sen. Mike Crapo,
Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley
Arizona Sen. John McCain,
now-Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY),
Kansas Sen. Pat Roberts, and
Alabama Sens. Jeff Sessions and
Richard Shelby.
(Alaska Sen. Frank Murkowski also voted for the amendment; his daughter Lisa holds his seat now.)

Source

7 posted on 04/02/2013 4:49:58 PM PDT by grobdriver
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To: neverdem

No compromise, PERIOD.

“...shall not be infringed”, PERIOD.

Follow your damn oath, PERIOD.

Bring back public hangings (legally) and bring the traitors to justice, PERIOD.


8 posted on 04/02/2013 5:08:48 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~)
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To: neverdem

They will try every trick in the book to bring about the total transformation of your USA. Bribes, threats and obviousy lying, on a regular basis. This anti-2nd push, is I suspect the big one.


9 posted on 04/02/2013 5:19:15 PM PDT by veracious
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To: WXRGina; duffee; onyx; DrewsMum; Tupelo; mstar; jdirt; Vietnam Vet From New Mexico; wardaddy; ...

Mississippi Thad Cockroach Ping


10 posted on 04/02/2013 5:21:06 PM PDT by WKB ( Remember "Bush Lied and People Died" Now it's "People died and Obama Lied")
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To: neverdem

FU Schumer.


11 posted on 04/02/2013 5:31:07 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Travis McGee

I’ve seen this movie, it’s called Schindler’s List. I cried terribly at this real life story.

Told a friend who is very anti-gun and all she would do is take a breath, startled.

Told her I understood her reaction and feel free to make AchmaninnyJobs argument it didn’t happen.


12 posted on 04/02/2013 5:36:12 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Hardaroni
This awful anti gun bill is DOA in the House, if it gets there.

That's why I'm not worried. Our freedom is defended by Speaker Boehner. And even if he fails, the Supreme Court has only one remotely plausible decision on a law that clearly infringes on our God-given right to keep and bear arms. It's inconceivable that anything could go wrong.

13 posted on 04/02/2013 5:38:50 PM PDT by Pollster1
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To: Dutch Boy

There is no legal means to impeach a US Senator...


14 posted on 04/02/2013 5:40:24 PM PDT by JZoback
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To: Hardaroni

I have a GREAT idea. What say a “universal background check” for Obama? Now that sounds like a plan worth persuing.


15 posted on 04/02/2013 5:41:28 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: neverdem; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; AuntB; stephenjohnbanker; ...
Yep, they got this shocker on Sunday.

The libs on MSNBC are freaking out this week realizing that Obama might very well get nothing on gun control, err ‘gun safety’, after all his talk and demands.

The barkers Rev Al and Martin Basher are outraged at Republicans for opposing the will of the people, gun control.

Mika was shaking her empty head in disappointment at the GOP and Joe agreed.

Matthews was the most entertaining much to the distress of the libs on the show, HE BLAMED OBAMA FIRST HA-HA. He is upset that Obama didn't move faster to get something passed.

Blow-hard Ed Shultz has been shoved off prime-time to an 2 hour window on Sunday where no-one will watching.

Maddow and Chris Hayes (who took Schultz's) slot are avoiding the subject as they realize this is both Obama’s and their failure. Maddow cares about gay stufff first and Hayes obsession is climate change and green energy.

As Cartman once said on Southpark :'Their tears taste sweet'

16 posted on 04/02/2013 6:13:34 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Vendome
Speaking of that movie....


17 posted on 04/02/2013 6:14:54 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: grobdriver

Shouldn’t Dan Coats, R - IN, be on that list, too? Can’t find the link right off, will check for it.


18 posted on 04/02/2013 6:15:47 PM PDT by cyn (Benghazi.)
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To: Travis McGee
Q: Why does a "soft tyranny" become hard?

A: Because it can.

20 posted on 04/02/2013 6:23:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Travis McGee

But, but!!!! More people have died in the name of religion in the last 100 years....says the friend experimenting atheism.

Doesn’t matter how many times I reply with the Little Black Book of Communism..

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism


21 posted on 04/02/2013 6:24:00 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Hardaroni

The bills which the states are passing, are 10-50x worse than SlimeSwine-Scummer’s ‘compromise’ bill ever would be. NY, CT, MD, CO etc are doing all the heavy-lifting for the gun-grabber cabal.


22 posted on 04/02/2013 6:24:06 PM PDT by carriage_hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: grobdriver; DaiHuy
Here it is. From As Views Shift on Guns, Reid Corrals Senate, this post:

"Was listening to Rush on the way home from work when he took an obscene profits timeout. What followed was a commercial with some guy talking about how he hunts and has taught his kids to hunt blah blah blah. He ended by saying he supports the 2A but to keep guns out of the hands of criminals or mental deficients we need to have expanded background checks. Then he said he was Dan Coats, Senator from Indiana and call his number to show support for enhanced background checks.

"Another RINO who will vote in Reid/ Obama camp

"28 posted on April 1, 2013 3:45:36 PM EDT by DaiHuy (May God save the country, for it is evident the people will not! Millard Fillmore)

Thanks for posting this info, DaiHuy.

23 posted on 04/02/2013 6:24:14 PM PDT by cyn (Benghazi.)
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To: TigersEye
Oh...the "why" makes an interesting additional q & a...

May that never happen here.

24 posted on 04/02/2013 6:27:02 PM PDT by cyn (Benghazi.)
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To: cyn
I didn't even realize that I changed the 'when' to 'why.'
Makes more sense that way doesn't it? lol
25 posted on 04/02/2013 6:28:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

Yes, it does, really added an extra dimension to the thought!

I was thinking, “Yeah, WHY?” As in, “Hey, YEAH! We have a CHOICE in this! Why on earth would we allow it?!”


26 posted on 04/02/2013 6:41:42 PM PDT by cyn (Benghazi.)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for your posts. “Democide” had the desired effect in me. I haven’t been able to watch it since viewing it several times when it first came out, though, it’s that chilling.


27 posted on 04/02/2013 6:52:13 PM PDT by cyn (Benghazi.)
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To: neverdem

I have several guns that were purchased anywhere from 1890 to 1957. Somehow, I seem to have misplaced the bills of sale. Under some scenarios, I would have to declare these before I could ever sell them. This could then become a requirement for registration without ever a sale.


28 posted on 04/02/2013 6:58:11 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: neverdem

They are relying on the “interstate commerce clause” as justification for universal background checks. Tell me this; how does one private citizen selling a gun to another private citizen within a state constitute “interstate commerce”?


29 posted on 04/02/2013 7:02:58 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: JZoback

We can’t count on the NY RNC to field a candidate that will beat him. He needs to go. If he can’t be impeached or beaten in an election we need to find another way. Schumer is dangerous for this country.


30 posted on 04/02/2013 7:03:00 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Gator113

The founding fathers didn’t form this country by compromising.


31 posted on 04/02/2013 7:08:43 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The founding fathers didn't form this country by compromising.)
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To: sickoflibs
He is upset that Obama didn't move faster to get something passed.

Didn't move fast enough?

Damn, he was on TV nationwide in about 5 hours flat.

It doesn't get any faster than that.

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32 posted on 04/02/2013 7:22:48 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI

They are mad that Obama had Biden do that study rather than he demand an immediate bill get written and passed as polls surge with these shootings then they drop again as viewers lose interest.

Not saying their expectations are realistic.


33 posted on 04/02/2013 7:30:27 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: neverdem

HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT WHERE TO HIDE YOUR GUNS AND AMMO SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT START CONFISCATION?

THINK “FARADAY SHIELD” OR IF YOU ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO FIND A PLACE THAT THE CHANCE OF A SEARCH OF MY HOUSE AND PROPERTY -AND- WOULD NOT SHOW UP MY HIDDEN WEAPONS OR COULD BE DETECTED BY METAL DETECTORS.

I FOUND MY PLACE. YOU SHOULD PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO.


34 posted on 04/02/2013 7:40:49 PM PDT by jongaltsr
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To: Hardaroni

http://www.fiscalconservatives.com/videos/_UTTxVgpthU.html?a=1


35 posted on 04/02/2013 7:49:15 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I think that in todays world, they would be very busy seeing that traitors made it to the gallows.


36 posted on 04/02/2013 7:58:59 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~)
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To: wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; Jeff Head; ...
Second Amendment Special!

White Men Don’t Count

As Views Shift on Guns, Reid Corrals Senate

Sen. Moran Statement on Status of U.N. Arms Treaty Negotiations

Bloomberg Backlash - Why the New York City mayor’s campaign for gun control isn’t helping.

37 posted on 04/02/2013 8:10:32 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: sickoflibs
They are mad that Obama had Biden do that study rather than he demand an immediate bill get written and passed

Yeah, little bammy still has that bad habit of not yet being a total dictator and ordering Congress on how to "vote."

Soros and Jarrett will are not pleased but can not demand much more from him as the donks are already fed up with him.

Wait till he flunks Amnesty 101, he will have the illegals mad at him too!

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38 posted on 04/02/2013 8:19:37 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


39 posted on 04/02/2013 9:06:29 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: grobdriver

Thanks for the link.


40 posted on 04/02/2013 9:13:00 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
They are relying on the “interstate commerce clause” as justification for universal background checks. Tell me this; how does one private citizen selling a gun to another private citizen within a state constitute “interstate commerce”?

Probably via Wickard v. Filburn.

It's a notorius case from the New Deal that still stands.

41 posted on 04/02/2013 9:31:40 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: sickoflibs

And may they continue to flow...


44 posted on 04/02/2013 10:54:23 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Dutch Boy

The people who elect him are far more dangerous.... He is the symptom, not the disease....


45 posted on 04/03/2013 12:58:04 AM PDT by JZoback
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To: neverdem

Little Chuckie Schumer never saw a fascist law, rule, or regulation he didn’t love.

For the truly ineffectual male, it’s so much fun to tell all the proles what to do and how to do it.


46 posted on 04/03/2013 1:50:30 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Travis McGee

bfl


47 posted on 04/03/2013 3:00:24 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: neverdem

Welcome. Don’t forget to add Dan Coats.


48 posted on 04/03/2013 3:08:30 AM PDT by grobdriver
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To: Travis McGee; All
Thank you for posting that.

Consider that in that video he says that registration would be illegal – so he was openly admitting to violating a previous law

Chuck you Schumer has flip flopped saying at one point that his bill won’t be a Gun Registry and then later on saying that he’s pushing “Universal Registration”.
This is the video on the issue:

NRA Stand and Fight: Universal Registration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hKq3967hUgU

49 posted on 04/03/2013 5:38:04 AM PDT by HammerT (The Obama Recession, you bone it you own it.)
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To: WKB

Mississippi Thad Cockroach

Good to see his name spelled correctly.


50 posted on 04/03/2013 10:58:05 AM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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