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Prosecutor in Texas Quits Aryan Case
Newser ^ | 04/02/2013 | By John Johnson

Posted on 04/03/2013 8:26:35 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

One of the theories floating around about the murder of a Texas district attorney and one of his prosecutors is that the Aryan Brotherhood of Texas is behind the killings as revenge for prosecution. If so, the group can consider its message received. A federal prosecutor has just resigned from a big racketeering case against the white supremacist group in Houston, reports the Houston Chronicle and Dallas Morning News. The US attorney dropped out over what both papers call "security concerns." Another attorney from the Justice Department is heading from DC to Texas as a replacement.

“He’s obviously made a decision based on something,” says one of the defense attorneys, who described himself as a good friend of the prosecutor who quit the case.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aryanbrotherhood; bhodoj; dakillings; doj; intimidation; usattorney
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1 posted on 04/03/2013 8:26:35 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

Seems to me that he shouldn’t have the option to quit because he’s afraid without losing his job. He’s obviously not up to it.


2 posted on 04/03/2013 8:31:48 AM PDT by 'smith
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To: Responsibility2nd

Perhaps Eric Holder can take over the job personally? Nah, probably never happen.


3 posted on 04/03/2013 8:32:42 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Responsibility2nd

Another attorney from the Justice Department is heading from DC to Texas as a replacement.

******

If they think sending someone from DC is going to scare these guys, they are wrong. It will probably make things worse.


4 posted on 04/03/2013 8:32:53 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: 'smith

Seems to me that he shouldn’t have the option to quit because he’s afraid without losing his job. He’s obviously not up to it.

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I think he’s taking the option to quit because he’s afraid of losing his LIFE.


5 posted on 04/03/2013 8:36:23 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

This is what Holder’s Justice Department has become. Mexico all over again. They’ve lost all control of law and order.


6 posted on 04/03/2013 8:38:57 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I understand that. Is his replacement’s life less valuable? If he won’t do the job, we shouldn’t be paying him.


7 posted on 04/03/2013 8:40:27 AM PDT by 'smith
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To: 'smith
Racketeering (according to friends in the business ~ who have the convictions to prove it) is mostly white collar crime these days ~ so the cops they ran up against were usually not cops at all but government auditors of all kinds.

Odds are good the prosecution lawyer dealing with this case was NOT PREPARED to deal with crime where whacking was going on.

Now the targets will be up against a lawyer who has an entirely different attitude, and training, and they'll probably all end up dead or wish they were dead.

8 posted on 04/03/2013 8:42:34 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Responsibility2nd

Can you imagine the thrill this is causing in various Supermax pods across the Fruited Plain?


9 posted on 04/03/2013 8:42:37 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
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Agreed. If they killed one, what's another to them?

I wondered how long it would take them to follow Pablo Escobar's Harvard business model.

It's going to get bad then they'll swarm them with cops who are PO'd and who take the fight to them. Putting them in jail is useless, put them in the ground then they take notice.

10 posted on 04/03/2013 8:48:02 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Mexico all over again.
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No, eventually Mexico or one of the other ‘unenlightened’ countries would ID who was responsible AND if they weren’t actually backing the assassinations would start in the prisons and ‘eliminate’ any future members of the group from carrying on the executions (of public officials).
If it continued, they would just start rounding up all known members of the ‘group’ and make sure they weren’t capable of carrying on the mission.

Of course, since we are enlightened, we will not only not allow the prosecutors to quit, we will probably give the ‘known’ members of the group some kind of protection so the masses don’t rally against them.


11 posted on 04/03/2013 8:52:44 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --I turn 75 next year- but remember, that's only 24 Celsius. (TKS R. Reagan))
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

One can be sure that low intelligence, poor self control, corruption and incompetence now runs rife in our Justice Department.


12 posted on 04/03/2013 8:54:59 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Considering the fact they don't know for a fact the AB is behind the killings, sounds like it may be the Obama WH and DoJ hyping “White Racist” as the real threat to the country.
13 posted on 04/03/2013 8:55:03 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Responsibility2nd

And his families as well.


14 posted on 04/03/2013 8:55:29 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: IMR 4350

this is exactly right. i saw a cbs news report last nite, on the murders of the husband and wife, and they painted with a very broad brush, this story about the A.B. but THEY GAVE NOT ONE BIT OF EVIDENCE.....

sounds like a bait and switch to me.


15 posted on 04/03/2013 8:58:10 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: muawiyah

Racketeering covers any ongoing criminal enterprise. While they mostly white collar crimes these days its broad based and used to got after any criminal enterprise.


16 posted on 04/03/2013 8:58:45 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: mardi59

They should send out Mary Jo White. A rootin’ tootin’ crime buster if ever there was one.


17 posted on 04/03/2013 8:59:16 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Bookmark...


18 posted on 04/03/2013 9:05:21 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Responsibility2nd
We never hear about MS-13 anymore. Guess they were scared off by the aryan brotherhood.

Look for a resurgence of the Dead Rabbits this Summer.

19 posted on 04/03/2013 9:06:47 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: mardi59
If they think sending someone from DC is going to scare these guys,

I have a feeling that is not their 'plan'.

20 posted on 04/03/2013 9:08:50 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Enterprise

There is more going on here than we realize. Why DC. Makes one wonder.


21 posted on 04/03/2013 9:13:54 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: UCANSEE2

I guess we’ll have to wait and see.


22 posted on 04/03/2013 9:14:35 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: Liberty Valance
You may have swerved into something more sinister than what is being presented to us, and it could be a game changer.

First off, I don't know the details of the case against the AB. But I assume that whatever it is, somewhere drugs come into it. Possibly, the AB has a relation with the drug cartels. At some point, it could occur to the AB that for a relatively cheap price, prosecutors and judges can be assassinated. Why bother with the cops and detectives if the people who try the cases can be intimidated into not prosecuting?

23 posted on 04/03/2013 9:15:18 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: mardi59

See post #23.


24 posted on 04/03/2013 9:16:17 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: raygunfan
For the last few weeks there has been a slow but steady increase in news stories depicting the right as being the real threat to the country and the right as having the same beliefs as the muslim terrorist when it comes to so called “women's rights” or “gay rights”.

Since the attack in Libya, there has been a slow but concerted effort to make it appear as if the right is collaborating with the muslim terrorist.

25 posted on 04/03/2013 9:20:54 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Enterprise

Now that makes sense. Why else send someone from DC.


26 posted on 04/03/2013 9:27:58 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Anarchy in the USA.


27 posted on 04/03/2013 9:36:28 AM PDT by RobO1125 (Conservatives have a diversity of ideas, not simply colors)
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To: House Atreides

“Perhaps Eric Holder can take over the job personally?”

ROFL ROFL I was just thinking about that when I read the title of this thread. I thought it would be nice if Mr. Waco could step in.


28 posted on 04/03/2013 9:37:20 AM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: mardi59

Phase Two of the “doing some things under the radar”, the first being Flooding Mexico with Weapons?


29 posted on 04/03/2013 9:40:14 AM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: Enterprise

When there is a nationwide breakdown of actual law enforcement, as has accured with Holder’s Justice Dept, someone will step in to fill the void from the other side. If the liberal Dallas and Houston daily papers say it’s the Aryan Brotherhood then I remain fairly skeptical that they are the ones actually committing these assassinations. But then, I have even less respect for the national media than our political weasels in DC.

All that said, I think you will indeed find drugs/cartels at the root of this.


30 posted on 04/03/2013 9:42:18 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Enterprise; Liberty Valance; mardi59
I assume that whatever it is, somewhere drugs come into it. Possibly, the AB has a relation with the drug cartels. At some point, it could occur to the AB that for a relatively cheap price, prosecutors and judges can be assassinated. Why bother with the cops and detectives if the people who try the cases can be intimidated into not prosecuting?

Well, fact is it clearly appears the bad guys nowadays are definitely going after higher profile targets. Cops going after other cops, the Colorado prison boss, now DA's and their wives in Texas...

But why in tarnation would Mexican cartels use the AB when they have their own people here? Thousands of the cartels foot soldiers are right here along with tens of millions of other illegals from Mexico.

Our borders have been intentionally left wide open for decades by the corrupt ruling class of both countries.

Ya got Mexican drug bosses living right here in the good old USA not to mention thousands of their gangster soldiers. The cartels are not afraid to kill people on their own and never have been.

In fact, ya got U.S. Government politicians on their payrolls, paid off to ensure those open borders, remain wide open.

This is what corrupt government and lawless borders... The cartels and all their friends running around north of the border would have no problem taking out someone here to make a point. The cops and the politicians know this.

For example this happened just last week in Mexico.

All shot in the head, some with warning signs attached to them with ice picks in their chests.

A gruesome photo out of Mexico appears to show the bodies of seven men, propped up in plastic chairs on a busy traffic circle. All appear to have been executed. The corpses were discovered near a Pepsi bottling plant at a traffic circle in the Mexican city of Uruapan, in Michoacan state.

It's very clear these people have no problem with violent terrorism and wholesale murder, to the point where they stage the victims for public viewing...They don't need the AB for that.

31 posted on 04/03/2013 9:46:23 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: VRWCarea51

I wonder if the AB was gunrunning? Why was that guy let out of prison early? The excuse given for his early release is lame at best. So many questions,


32 posted on 04/03/2013 9:47:39 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: mardi59

> Another attorney from the Justice Department is heading from DC to Texas as a replacement.

******

If they think sending someone from DC is going to scare these guys, they are wrong. It will probably make things worse.

Maybe it will escalate and they will go after Holder’s boss...: )


33 posted on 04/03/2013 9:53:24 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: dragnet2

The cartels are doing murders in Mexico, they can’t risk being that high profile here. The illegal issue.

They need someone else to do the damage here. Who is crazy enough to do it here? The people being investigated, the AB. Run guns to Mexico. In return you get the drugs, and your share. Kill anyone that gets close. Border agent Terry may have stumbled into something.


34 posted on 04/03/2013 9:56:09 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

U.S. prosecutor quits Aryan case, citing security

Houston Chronicle, updated Apr 3, 2013 11:43am
A federal prosecutor in a major case in Houston against the notorious Aryan Brotherhood of Texas prison gang has withdrawn over security concerns in the wake of the weekend killings of a Dallas-area district attorney and his wife, said a source familiar with the case.

Jay Hileman, an assistant U.S. Attorney, had been assigned to the case.

Houston defense attorney Gus Saper, who represents alleged Aryan gang leader Terry Ross Blake, confirmed prosecutor Hileman notified him he was no longer on the case.

"I'd say it's not a regular thing. You know people get transferred and moved around the (prosecutor's) office, so people get moved on and off cases," said Saper. "But I would say this situation is probably a little bit different from all of those."

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35 posted on 04/03/2013 9:57:43 AM PDT by deport
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they can’t risk being that high profile here.

Why not?

36 posted on 04/03/2013 10:22:53 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
"But why in tarnation would Mexican cartels use the AB when they have their own people here?"

I would offer the theory that it is the other way around. The AB would offer money to hire drug cartel hit men. The assassination could be carried out, and the murderer is back in Mexico before the investigation is even half way done. That's one way open borders work. Easy to get in, and easy to get out. And it would be difficult to pin on the AB.

37 posted on 04/03/2013 10:23:39 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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The cartels are doing murders in Mexico, they can’t risk being that high profile here. The illegal issue.

Whoops...

Mexican drug cartels whose operatives once rarely ventured beyond the U.S. border are dispatching some of their most trusted agents to live and work deep inside the United States

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/01/mexican-drug-cartels-reportedly-dispatching-agents-deep-inside-us/

38 posted on 04/03/2013 10:27:25 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Hmm, the ABT has gone after inmates but never a prison officer or prosecutor before. Sounds more like Zetas or some other Mexican drug cartel with the extra perk being that it’s being blamed on ABT. But, hey, the msm would blame it on ABT rather than be un-PC or called racist for blaming the more likely suspects.


39 posted on 04/03/2013 10:32:45 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Enterprise

Uh oh....

“””Mexican drug cartels “are taking over our neighborhoods,” Pennsylvania Attorney General Kathleen Kane warned a legislative committee in February.””””

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/01/mexican-drug-cartels-reportedly-dispatching-agents-deep-inside-us/


40 posted on 04/03/2013 10:33:24 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I found this from 2010. The more I read the sicker I get!

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/11/mexican-drug-cartels-tied-to-us-white.html


41 posted on 04/03/2013 10:33:48 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: mardi59
Some here don't seem to be keeping up with what has been happening in the U.S. for years now....

Whoops...

plus interviews with many top law enforcement officials, indicate the groups (Cartels) have begun deploying agents from their inner circles to the U.S.

Cartel operatives are suspected of running drug-distribution networks in at least nine non-border states, often in middle-class suburbs in the Midwest, South and Northeast.

42 posted on 04/03/2013 10:38:07 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

U.S. Officials are going to be shocked, just shocked, when the cartels begin assassinating political, judicial, and law enforcement leaders here and attack the police using RPGs, mortars, grenades, sniper rifles, and heavy machine guns. Well, the Obama Administration won’t be shocked. They’re probably COUNTING on it. Not letting a crisis go to waste and all that.


43 posted on 04/03/2013 10:44:58 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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I wonder how many "Officials" in the U.S. are now on the payroll?

Ya knew it was coming to this.

Look, during the entire decades long compassionate wars in the Mideast, Bush wouldn't secure the violent borders...In fact while spending trillions chasing the bathrobed gangs in Baghdad, during his eight years, tens of millions entered this country illegally during war time...Not only did Mideastern terrorist enter though Mexico, so did thousands of the cartels foot soldiers.

Bet the rent, they are everywhere in the U.S.

44 posted on 04/03/2013 10:49:13 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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“they can’t risk being that high profile here.

Why not?”

It would possibly interfere with a declaration of blanket amnesty thereby depriving the Democratic party of millions of new potential voters?

45 posted on 04/03/2013 11:03:24 AM PDT by Polynikes (Yo Homie. That my briefcase?)
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To: bgill; All

This sounds like a “White Van” moment from the D.C. snipers case.

The Authorities did not have a clue, so it had to be white criminals.

The source pushing the Aryan Brotherhood meme is none other than that well known hate organization, the Southern Poverty Law Center.


46 posted on 04/03/2013 11:19:29 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Polynikes

See 42 and other posts..


47 posted on 04/03/2013 11:21:11 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Well, they’d better not assassinate someone using a magazine holding more than 10 rounds. Then they’d REALLY be in trouble.


48 posted on 04/03/2013 12:03:26 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: dragnet2

Mexican cartels use white Americans because it is easier to infiltrate US cities and towns. If Mex Drug Cartels use their own people in US areas, locals will not deal with mestizos/mulattos with bad accents.....they will deal with their gringo sub-agents.

Also, Mex Cartels are fully aware Americans are armed and will shoot back....less likely to shoot stranger gringo than stranger Latino


49 posted on 04/03/2013 12:07:10 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: mardi59

It seems unusally strange to announce this, if it is all as it seems. It is kind of like declaring the killer won, something apparatchiks hate to do.

I wonder if the new guy from DC is an FBI HRT guy fresh out of Delta, who is just using the cover of an attorney. If their evidence is sparse enough, LE may just be putting an undercover in place as bait, with long term surveillance and QRFs, hoping whoever did this will try for the trifecta so they can at least put a body to all of this, and begin the real investigation.

The bottom line is a bunch of 5.56 casings and a boot print on a door isn’t a whole lot of evidence, especially if the gun and boots are already disposed of. That the killer/s got away with the first one, and seem to have exploited a thunderstorm for noise cover in the second, would seem to make this look like a difficult investigation against a dangerously sharp, and maybe well-trained adversary, which would bring out all the stops.

Behavioral may also have advised that leaking publicly that the last guy got scared off offers an additional psychological incentive, of making the killer/s feel more potent. This type of psychology may find itself suddenly wanting to feed that feeling and feel it again, by surprising everybody and popping off the new guy quickly before he gets settled. Seeing more of the bunnies run and hide in the aftermath would be like a drug.

It might at least encourage the bad guys to do a quick recon of the new guy, which might get picked up by his surveillance. I’d be surprised if the guy he is replacing hadn’t already been reconned extensively, and his killing planned out, at least in general terms.

My guess is you wouldn’t want to fuck with the new guy. I wish him luck.


50 posted on 04/03/2013 1:47:14 PM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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