Skip to comments.N. Korea approves nuclear strike on US
Posted on 04/03/2013 1:05:52 PM PDT by illiac
SEOUL The North Korean army said Thursday it had final approval to launch "merciless" military strikes on the United States, involving the possible use of "cutting-edge" nuclear weapons.
In a statement published by the official KCNA news agency, the General Staff of the Korean People's Army (KPA) said it was formally informing Washington that reckless US threats would be "smashed by... cutting-edge smaller, lighter and diversified nuclear strike means".
"The merciless operation of (our) revolutionary armed forces in this regard has been finally examined and ratified," the statement said.
(Excerpt) Read more at google.com ...
If we had an American in the White House, this would make me chuckle. But we don’t.
Rhyre rerious rhis rhyme!!!!
now all they need is a nuke and way to get it there
I’ve actually had to deal with two severely disturbed men. Never underestimate them. Also, if they say something, no matter how wacko, you’d better assume they mean it.
This is the “Line of Death”, you cross it, you die.
Ok, you cross this line, you die.
Cross this line, you die.
Alright then, you come knocking on my door, I’m not coming out...nyah!
Do the NORKs have the schedule for when Congress is in session?
Same goes for betting...if I guy says he can jump over the building and offers to make you a bet he can, don’t take it.
I agree....never know what they might try....
I say bring it.
If missile defense works, then nobody is going to ever question why we are spending money on it ever again.
If it doesn’t, we’ll lose DC maybe, or another single US city, and at that point the gloves are off and we can retaliate accordingly.
It’ll shut the doves up for four years or so.
LOL, these people are good for a chuckle almost every day! I’m going to miss this pure propaganda hilarity if North Korea ever implodes.
The kids a real chip off the old block. ho hum.
This has to be the longest running UN failure.
Like any subterfuge, it’s important not to be distracted by the waving hand. They’ll talk missiles and nuclear warheads, and then while everyone’s looking up, quietly send a mayonaise jar of weaponized germs over on a container ship or diplomatic pouch.
Kim has backed himself into a corner. He’ll have to come up with a way to save face. That may end badly.
Yeh....paint him into the corner and he may want to try to fight....
“use of “cutting-edge” nuclear weapons”
KMS 3-2 will be right over the US tonight-Texas and central US
If it drops below 300 mi altitude. It needs to be shot down.
Too late with that mug.
These bastards are as looney as a wounded partridge. I wouldnt put it past them to try anything. And dont believe they havent got nukes. They do. Even a one kiloton is big enough to do lots of damage.
30 years ago the USA and USSR produced tactical nuclear weapons in the 1 kiloton range that weighed less than 200 pounds.
I'm not willing to bet my life that Crazy Kim and the Norks are too stupid to build one today.
Hook one of those things on drone, launch from a fishing trawler, and you could knock down half the buildings in downtown Seattle, which happens to be my home.
When crazy people start threatening to kill you, I suggest paying attention.
Unfortunately it looks like the US and S. Korea are going to have to show new boy Kim where the line is....he’s in the “I dare you” mode. You know..kids do that...and he’s a kid without any experience on the world stage...and his “parents” are letting him try his wings.
They’ve already got a satellite in low-earth-orit; who knows what’s inside it? EMP?
Indeed....and he’s diggin himself deeper as he goes. What fools...but then in the end the people might eat something.....he uses his people in the most vilest way in humanity.
This bellicosity is a ploy to blackmail the international community to back off from economic sanctions against North Korea. It is also a gambit to get China to refrain from criticizing North Korea’s resumption of the production of weapons grade plutonium in the restart of its nuclear reeactor/s.
A couple months later he pushed the entire South Korean army onto about 400 square miles in the southeastern tip of Korea.
As I recall, it took 36,500 dead Americans to push him back across the 38th parallel.
However, with the world economies melting down, more debts than money, etc. I am not so sure the int'l bankers are not looking for a big, ugly world war.
“This has to be the longest running UN failure”.
It has been a failure almost as long as the UN has been in existence. The area has to be their business model cause they sure don’t have any successes in these 65 or so years.
“Fatty Kim”, that’s what the Chineese call him, may have tested an EMP weapon in Feb. Those are low yield like his test was, because the energy is expended in the EMP wave.
A high altitude detonation will render virtually all advanced military equipment unoperable, all but his mechanical ladden WWII equipment. Many believe that placing a warhead on a rocket is difficult, miniturizing and what not, but these type weapons are small to begin with. I don’t think “Fatty Kim” urinates until China say’s “Simon Say’s”. And I don’t believe China would be threatened by the prospect of a Billion boarder crossing NorK’s for a second, unless they were pulling the strings.
I’m not saying it’s time to panic, but if they are allowed to launch another medium to long range missile without at least an attempt to down it with ABM then Hussein is just wishing for us to die.
These threats are not something to dismiss lightly. The Russians and Chinese are not behaving as though this little bastard is just shooting off his mouth as usual. They KNOW there is more behind this.
Further, they KNOW we have a pot-smoking, eltist, pseudo-intellectual ass running our government and their assessment of us has substantially dropped.
A VERY dangerous thing.
Build one? heck who’s to say they didnt buy or steal one from Russia.
Their current satellite isn’t large enough for a nuke to cause an EMP.
Are you nuts? It would take out the FR servers, then we'll be stuck without FR.
Can we just crater his palaces and government buildings and get it over with?
I call him Kim3, it rhymes with Kimchee
The vitriol I often see on FR, as stated, against people who live on the Left Coast, appears to either forget that we too live here, or suggests we are collateral damage that has no value.
good one ;)
I'm reminded of the movie The Bedford Incident (a classic Cold War movie, and worth renting if you haven't seen it). Without giving away too much of the ending for those who haven't seen the movie, I'll simply observe that the current situation with North Korea could play out in a similar fashion to the closing scene from that film. "Fire one, aye, Captain!"
Heck, Jean “Ready for Doody” Kerie will take care of this.
Here’s another what if, since that’s what we’re mostly going on with our own Great Leader at the helm. What if some people in NK (Chinese or Russian string-pullers) are manipulating little-fat-eyes to play this game? Then, when the poop is veritably dangling before the whirring fan blades, little-fat-eyes is taken out of the picture for some reeducation, and NK finally begins joining the real world. Wouldn’t that be a hoot!
This might be a very dangerous false assumption.
This prof says North Koreas December 2012 ICBM satellite launch was more advanced than the media and US govt sources are saying. Watch his video starting around the 15:00 minutes mark.
Professor of Astronautics Mike Gruntman uses principles of ASTE 520 Spacecraft Design to look at the North Korea satellite launch on December 12, 2012.
One does not need technology of 2010s to place a nuclear warhead half a world away
Also see this thread from February:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ar...4#.UTl0ild418HWednesday, December 19, 2012Both North Korean nuclear tests look suspiciously like a Super-EMP weapon. A Super-EMP warhead would have a low yield, like the North Korean device, because it is not designed to create a big explosion, but to convert its energy into gamma rays, that generate the EMP effect. Reportedly South Korean military intelligence concluded, independent of the EMP Commission, that Russian scientists are in North Korea helping develop a Super-EMP warhead. In 2012, a military commentator for the Peoples Republic of China stated that North Korea has Super-EMP nuclear warheads.
A Super-EMP warhead would not weigh much, and could probably be delivered by North Koreas ICBM. The missile does not have to be accurate, as the EMP field is so large that detonating anywhere over the United States would have catastrophic consequences. The warhead does not even need a re-entry vehicle, as an EMP attack entails detonating the warhead at high-altitude, above the atmosphere.
So, as of Dec. 12, North Koreas successful orbit of a satellite demonstrates its ability to make an EMP attack against the United States right now.
North Korea appears to have borrowed more from the Russians than the design of a Super-EMP warhead.
During the Cold War, the USSR experimented with a secret weapon, the Fractional Orbital Bombardment System (FOBS), that used an ICBM like a Space Launch Vehicle to put a nuclear warhead into orbit, like a satellite. Instead of using the ICBM to lob the warhead on a more accurate arcing ballistic trajectory, flying along the shortest range to target, like an artillery shell, the FOBS lofted the warhead into a "fractional" or partial orbit, sacrificing accuracy for limitless range.
FOBS could reach any nation or threaten any target anywhere on Earth.
A Super-EMP warhead does not weigh much, and could probably be delivered by North Korea's Fractional Orbital Bombardment System, successfully tested in December 2012, against any nation on Earth. Thus, North Korea already possesses an ICBM and poses a mortal nuclear threat to the United States, and to all nations on Earth--right now.
North Korea, during the successful test of its ICBM on December 12, 2012, orbited a satellite weighing 100 kilograms (about 200 pounds). One design of a Super-EMP warhead would be a modified neutron bomb, more accurately an Enhanced Radiation Warhead (ERW) because it produces not only many neutrons but also many gamma rays. As noted earlier, gamma rays cause the EMP effect. One U.S. ERW warhead (the W-82) deployed in NATO during the Cold War weighed, including its heavy casing, less than 50 kilograms. Since the EMP attack entails detonating the warhead at high-altitude, above the atmosphere, the warhead does not even need a heavy re-entry vehicle and heat shield.
North Korea's ICBM does not have to be accurate to make an EMP attack against the United States.
The EMP field is so large that detonating anywhere over the U.S. would have catastrophic consequences. North Korea orbited its satellite around the Earth at an altitude of about 500 kilometers. The trajectory of North Korea's satellite is no accident--they deliberately aimed for and achieved this orbit and altitude, as announced before their launch.
An altitude of 500 kilometers would be ideal for making an EMP attack that places the field over the entire lower 48 United States.
North Korea's ICBM, delivering an EMP attack by means of an inaccurate satellite warhead, would likely miss its horizontal aimpoint over the geographic center of the U.S. by tens of kilometers. Bursting the warhead at an altitude of 500 kilometers would compensate for this inaccuracy by creating an EMP field big enough to cover everything. North Korea's satellite did not pass over the United States--but a slight adjustment in its trajectory would have flown it over or near the U.S. bull's eye for a high-altitude EMP burst.
The primary purpose of the Fractional Orbital Bombardments System, that North Korea appears to have borrowed from Russia, is to make a surprise nuclear attack. FOBS is stealthy as it can strike from any direction, from unexpected directions, not just from the shortest direction or by using the trajectory that would be normal for an ICBM. Because FOBS looks like a Space Launch Vehicle, not an ICBM making a nuclear attack, this disguise optimizes chances for achieving surprise.
During the Cold War, Moscow experimented with a stealthy way of delivering a nuclear attack on the United States using a Fractional Orbital Bombardment System to elude radar detection. This would entail launching an ICBM southward, away from the United States, so it appears non-threatening, and delivering the warhead like a satellite on a south polar orbit, so the nuclear attack comes at the U.S. from the south.
During the Cold War--and today--the United States has no Ballistic Missile Early Warning Radars or missile interceptors facing south. We would not even see an attack from the south coming.
One signature of a Super-EMP weapon is that it has a very low explosive yield, just several kilotons, or even less if it is more efficient, because the weapon is converting the energy of the nuclear warhead into gamma rays.
In 2004, the Russian generals told the EMP Commission that North Korea was getting help developing a Super-EMP nuclear weapon from contractors from Russia, China, Pakistan and elsewhere, and could probably test such a weapon "in a few years." A few years later, in 2006, North Korea tested its mysterious "nuclear device" that produced an explosive yield of only several kilotons, and so was derided by the Western press as a failure--but hailed as a success by North Korea.
Independently of the Congressional EMP Commission, South Korean military intelligence several times warned their government, in stories reported in South Korean press, that Russians are in North Korea helping them develop a Super-EMP nuclear warhead. In response, the South Korean government launched projects to harden their military communications and other critical infrastructures.
In 2010, according to some reputable European analysts, radioisotope data indicates North Korea may have conducted two clandestine nuclear tests of a very low yield "nuclear device" of sophisticated fusion design. This is indicative of a weapons program that is very technologically advanced, and consistent with development of a Super-EMP warhead.
In 2012, a military commentator for the People's Republic of China told a Hong Kong journal that North Korea has Super-EMP nuclear warheads.
I’m not real sure our leader is not similar to theirs....
Hey! That’s not nice.
“In 2001, Barack Obama, then a state senator, said flatly: I dont agree with a missile-defense system. Seven years later, during his first presidential campaign, then-senator Obama pledged to slash $10 billion from the Pentagons missile-defense budget about $1 billion more than the U.S. was actually spending on missile defense at the time.”