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Ronald Reagan’s son: legalizing same-sex marriages will lead to “polygamy, bestiality and murder”
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 20:11 EST, 2 April 2013 | Hayley Peterson

Posted on 04/03/2013 1:21:33 PM PDT by Olog-hai

The son of former president Ronald Reagan warns in an op-ed published Tuesday that legalizing gay marriage will lead to “polygamy, bestiality and perhaps even murder.”

Michael Reagan, a political consultant, made the claims as he calls on church leaders to stand up and fight against same-sex marriage. …

Legalizing same-sex marriages, he writes, “inevitably will lead to teaching our public school kids that gay marriage is a perfectly fine alternative and no different from traditional marriage.” …

Reagan slams the Republican Party, saying party leaders are too preoccupied with the next presidential election to be concerned about the moral threat that he believes same-sex marriages pose to the country. …

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: bestiality; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; lavendermafia; michaelreagan; polygamy; reagan; ssm

1 posted on 04/03/2013 1:21:33 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

He’s right.


2 posted on 04/03/2013 1:22:18 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Olog-hai

I’d be interested to hear how he gets from gay ‘marriage’ to murder.

SnakeDoc


3 posted on 04/03/2013 1:23:55 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: SnakeDoctor

What will Reagan’s other son have to say about this?


4 posted on 04/03/2013 1:25:09 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Olog-hai

Michael Reagan: My man.

He is right, and has the balls to say it.

Same sex—sex is no way a marriage, it is an abomination, a mental illness.

People who endorse it are letting their love for their queer children and relatives cloud their minds.You have a friend that is queer-—fine, it doesn’t make his/her illness go away, that person is mentally ilAnd I dont care what the insane psychiatrists say,not may of them are playing with a full deck either.


5 posted on 04/03/2013 1:26:44 PM PDT by Venturer
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6 posted on 04/03/2013 1:27:33 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: SnakeDoctor

I would like to hear that too. Gay marriage to murder is a big jump.


7 posted on 04/03/2013 1:29:44 PM PDT by certrtwngnut (')
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To: SnakeDoctor
I’d be interested to hear how he gets from gay ‘marriage’ to murder.

Not such a stretch. In fact, it's already happening.

AIDS is the first disease that has been granted "civil rights" to be completely covert. People don't have to tell their sexual partner that they are infected. This is essentially murder if the other person dies.

8 posted on 04/03/2013 1:34:02 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: SnakeDoctor
Polygamy to murder?

Maybe jealous "spouses"...

9 posted on 04/03/2013 1:34:11 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: SnakeDoctor

It’s not explicit in the article, but apparently Michael is saying that if this particular bit of “moral legistlation” is questioned, and eventually discarded, other laws that legislate moral behavior, such as laws against murder, may be in danger.

IOW, it seems to be a backhanded slap at those who say, “You can’t legislate morality.”, more than an actual fear murder may become “legal” someday.


10 posted on 04/03/2013 1:34:20 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Olog-hai
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11 posted on 04/03/2013 1:35:59 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: certrtwngnut

>> Gay marriage to murder is a big jump.

Equating the vulva to the anus is also a big jump.


12 posted on 04/03/2013 1:39:06 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Olog-hai
He's in his 60’s, has had a talk radio career for years. Can't we say “Michael” instead of “Ronald Reagan's Son”?

I know it's a Brit publication. And he isn't bashful about cashing in on his name. But the headline bugs me.

13 posted on 04/03/2013 1:40:02 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: fwdude

Murder by AIDS. Interesting theory. Certainly HIV has gotten enough press for people to know that unprotected gay sex with a stranger carries risks.

Also ... not sure how gay ‘marriage’ would lead to higher AIDS risks, or higher risk of murder-by-AIDS. Gay people already have sex. I can see the argument that it leads to polygamy, incestuous marriage, bestial marriage, general degeneracy, the breakdown of the family ... but I’m still not seeing how it leads to murder.

I don’t think that’s what he’s talking about.

SnakeDoc


14 posted on 04/03/2013 1:41:33 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

The Brits are not going to know right away who Michael Reagan is just by the name.


15 posted on 04/03/2013 1:41:55 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: SnakeDoctor

To be willing to either be celibate, due to singlehood, or keep your sexual activities to your marriage partner requires a fair bit of self-control.

The inability to practice self-control makes one more likely to be hostage to one’s emotions. If you’re a hostage to your emotions, you would be more prone to commit acts like murder.


16 posted on 04/03/2013 1:44:01 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: SkyDancer; dfwgator

17 posted on 04/03/2013 1:44:02 PM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: Olog-hai

The murder is already there. Its called abortion.


19 posted on 04/03/2013 1:47:31 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: fwdude
AIDS is the first disease that has been granted "civil rights" to be completely covert. People don't have to tell their sexual partner that they are infected.

False. Many, if not most, states have laws requiring people to disclose to their sexual partners if they HIV and/or AIDS.

20 posted on 04/03/2013 1:51:36 PM PDT by gdani
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To: Olog-hai

he;s right, once marriage is re-defined and groups are given special rights then all groups will or should be allowed


21 posted on 04/03/2013 1:52:21 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SnakeDoctor

Homosexuals are five times more likely to commit suicide. With “marriage” a portion of that could become murder-suicides or just murders.


22 posted on 04/03/2013 1:52:32 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (I forgot.)
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To: Jonty30

>> To be willing to either be celibate, due to singlehood, or keep your sexual activities to your marriage partner requires a fair bit of self-control. The inability to practice self-control makes one more likely to be hostage to one’s emotions. If you’re a hostage to your emotions, you would be more prone to commit acts like murder.

True enough. But, decreeing gay ‘marriage’ legal wouldn’t change any of that.

If gay people lack self-control, and lack of self-control slavery to emotions, and emotional people are more likely to murder ... then we’re already there. Bastardizing marriage to include gay people isn’t going to give them any less self-control than they had before.

SnakeDoc


23 posted on 04/03/2013 1:52:49 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: gdani

Ooooooh, a law.

Just how effective is this law upon the dying and hopeless?


24 posted on 04/03/2013 1:53:20 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Bit of a stretch ... but that’s the best answer so far.

SnakeDoc


25 posted on 04/03/2013 1:53:40 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: SnakeDoctor

No, but the easier society makes it to not practice self-control, the less inclined people will be to do so.


26 posted on 04/03/2013 1:54:47 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30
Ooooooh, a law.

Yeah, a law. The person I was responding to claimed such info can be kept secret. I pointed out people are required to disclose such info in many/most states.

Like any law, it won't ensure people comply. But it corrects the false statement.

27 posted on 04/03/2013 1:58:14 PM PDT by gdani
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To: onyx

Seriously...the top two women look better without make up in my opinion.


28 posted on 04/03/2013 2:03:53 PM PDT by Married with Children
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To: Jonty30

Gay ‘marriage’ wouldn’t make the lack of self-control any easier than it already is. Its everywhere.

If anything, the marriage debate is a lagging indicator. Marriage is being bastardized to fit a degenerate culture, or to solidify it ... not to create one.

SnakeDoc


29 posted on 04/03/2013 2:04:49 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: SnakeDoctor
the marriage debate is a lagging indicator. Marriage is being bastardized to fit a degenerate culture...

You're absolutely right.
30 posted on 04/03/2013 2:11:33 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Signalman

Whatever his husband tells him to say, I suppose.


31 posted on 04/03/2013 2:12:31 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Olog-hai

32 posted on 04/03/2013 2:13:23 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Olog-hai

The Gippers REAL son. You know? The adopted one!


33 posted on 04/03/2013 2:16:11 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: SnakeDoctor
Murder by AIDS. Interesting theory.

Not a theory. Fact. I knew this guy, friend of my ex-wife (figures) who was a homo who had AIDS. He was spreading it as far and as wide as he could. No, he wasn't telling anybody, it was on purpose. When I heard he kicked the bucket, the ex was surprised when I told her he should be roasting in Hell...more likely than anybody else I knew at the time. I told her flat out I think he was a murderer.

34 posted on 04/03/2013 2:17:29 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Its a theory as to why gay ‘marriage’ leads to murder ... not as to whether murder-by-AIDS exists.

It does — though I would think there is at least a minimal amount of contributory assumption of risk. Not enough to absolve the murderer, but enough to wonder why the victim didn’t see the risk.

SnakeDoc


35 posted on 04/03/2013 2:27:37 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: SnakeDoctor
It does — though I would think there is at least a minimal amount of contributory assumption of risk. Not enough to absolve the murderer, but enough to wonder why the victim didn’t see the risk.

That's well-reasoned, and I agree. Those are mitigating factors. The litigating factors are premeditation and multiple murders. He got what the State of TX would have given him, minus the cost of the lethal injection drugs. But he also contributed greatly to the spread of the disease. This was back in the '80's, so I suspect the number of deaths he's responsible for is in the thousands.

36 posted on 04/03/2013 2:32:04 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: SnakeDoctor

“I’d be interested to hear how he gets from gay ‘marriage’ to murder.”

In time to come, it is highly probable that those who do not wish to go along with the new homo normal will have to resort to killing the ones that do, and vice versa, since the ones wishing to go to the homo normal cannot allow dissent in order to achieve it. It is the sort of thing that admits little or no middle ground; therefore, the sort of dispute that ends badly. History is full of similar things.


37 posted on 04/03/2013 2:36:04 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: pfflier
The murder is already there. Its called abortion.

Precisely. About 3,300 babies per day.

38 posted on 04/03/2013 2:39:07 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: GenXteacher

Maybe men will marry other men for their MONEY because GAYS are WAY more wealthy, as a whole (oooo, am I allowed to say that?)than straights.....so maybe the partner would murder to get the money.


39 posted on 04/03/2013 2:41:32 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SnakeDoctor

I haven’t read Reagan’s thoughts on the subject but here’s another way it leads to murder.
Gay marriage leads to increased acceptance of homosexual behavior, which leads to an increase in the incidence of pedophilia, and then the reconsideration of pedophilia from a medical/psychiatric disorder to a tolerable “difference.” More pedophiles, more child rapes, more deaths.


40 posted on 04/03/2013 2:43:24 PM PDT by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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To: Olog-hai

I think he is painting too rosy of a picture.


41 posted on 04/03/2013 2:45:44 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: onyx

In the sense that almost anything can lead to murder, he’s probably right.

In the sense that legalizing same sex marriage will lead to polygamy, incest, and bestiality, he’s dead on right.

No matter what contortions they try to use, they cannot get around the simple fact that once you break the 1-man, 1-woman = marriage paradigm, you have effectively gutted the possibility of any limitations at all. If gay marriage is a valid lifestyle choice, there is absolutely no reason why 2 (or more) women and 1 man can not be.

And has been pointed out numerous times, there is far greater precedents for polygamy and incest than there ever were for gay marriage. In fact, I have yet to run across ANY historical precedent for gay marriage. The fact that homosexuality was condoned, or even celebrated in other cultures does not mean that it was officially sanctioned.

If someone knows an exception to that, I’d love to hear about it.


42 posted on 04/03/2013 2:48:51 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: Olog-hai

Seems to be column that will get Michael on with Piers Morgan tonight:
http://townhall.com/columnists/michaelreagan/2013/03/28/churches-time-to-fight-n1551268


43 posted on 04/03/2013 2:52:54 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Olog-hai

05:04 PM ET
Tonight: Michael Reagan on his Op-Ed; Wynonna Judd on DWTS and her husband’s injury

On the heels of a provocative, eyebrow-raising op-ed published in the “Ironton [Ohio] Tribune,” this evening “Piers Morgan Live” invites Michael Reagan to return to the program and share the context and perspective that lead to his writing.

The adopted son of former president Ronald Reagan, and a former American radio host and Republican strategist, Reagan uses the newspaper’s platform to offer the following sentiments regarding same-sex marriage:

“This fight over Proposition 8 isn’t just about saying it should be legal in the eyes of government for two people of the same sex to get married in California. It’s ultimately about changing the culture of the entire country; it inevitably will lead to teaching our public school kids that gay marriage is a perfectly fine alternative and no different than traditional marriage. There is also a very slippery slope leading to other alternative relationships and the unconstitutionality of any law based on morality. Think about polygamy, bestiality, and perhaps even murder.”


44 posted on 04/03/2013 2:57:54 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: manc; Olog-hai

To make marriage mean anything and everything, is to make marriage mean nothing. That is the whole point.


45 posted on 04/03/2013 2:58:17 PM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: gdani
Many, if not most, states have laws requiring people to disclose to their sexual partners if they HIV and/or AIDS.

Then you haven't read about the push to reverse this. Yes, liberals want the "right" to conceal their status EVEN FROM THEIR SEXUAL PARTNERS.

46 posted on 04/03/2013 3:16:47 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: pfflier

Exactly. That’s the liberal mindset.

As Michael Reagan points out, anything goes when it comes to liberals and sex. Straight, gay, bestiality, whatever. Anything goes when you need to deal with the consequences of promiscuous sex — namely, killing the inconvenient baby that results from that reckless night in bed.


47 posted on 04/03/2013 4:42:50 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: SnakeDoctor

If anything, the marriage debate is a lagging indicator. Marriage is being bastardized to fit a degenerate culture, or to solidify it ... not to create one.

SnakeDoc

 

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48 posted on 04/03/2013 8:04:20 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: SnakeDoctor

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