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Big Sis: Ammo bought in bulk to 'lower costs' [ Ammo manufacturers have chosen the Fed over us ]
WND ^ | April 2 2013 | WND

Posted on 04/03/2013 5:51:52 PM PDT by NoLibZone

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has responded to a letter dated November 13, 2012 from Senator Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) regarding the agency’s ammunition purchases.

Sen. Coburn published the response on the U.S. Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs website yesterday, April 1, 2013.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News
KEYWORDS: ammo; banglist; bigsislies; dhs; dhsammo; guncontrol; secondamendment
The ammo manufacturers have chosen the fed over us.

Never forget this.

1 posted on 04/03/2013 5:51:52 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone
Can't say I really blame them. They probably got a call that went something like, “Nice ammo plant you have there, be a shame if it was shut down for a looonnngg, comprehensive safety review, were we will be sure to find enough to keep it shut down permanently if you don't play ball.
2 posted on 04/03/2013 5:57:09 PM PDT by apillar
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To: NoLibZone

I wonder just how much has been delivered? The purchase order was for billyuns and billyuns of rounds, but just how many are in the warehouses now?


3 posted on 04/03/2013 5:57:13 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: NoLibZone
The ammo manufacturers have chosen the fed over us.

Which isn't a very sound strategy since DHS has been reducing its ammo purchases for each of the last three years.

4 posted on 04/03/2013 5:57:40 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Old Sarge

The precise DHS inventory, ammo deliveries for the last three years, and the planned spending for ammo can all be found here:

http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?a=Files.Serve&File_id=9cde768f-bb3a-4fd9-8176-1745c21519c2

DHS had about 250 million rounds last November.

They bought about 100 million rounds in 2012, for $36 million dollars. They plan to spend $37 million in 2013, which will buy them about the same amount of ammo this year.


5 posted on 04/03/2013 6:00:26 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: NoLibZone

If you run a factory; and you get an order for 1 Gazillion rounds; what would you do?

Keep making ammo that “might sell” or do you fulfill the order you have on the books?

It’s called Capitalism, you make the business decisions today that keep you in business tomorrow. I will buy ammo tomorrow, and the day after, and the day after that....

They never said, implied or through action gave any clue that they will not be manufacturing ammo in the future.


6 posted on 04/03/2013 6:01:15 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: apillar

yeah but eventually fedgov would run out of ammo. maybe forced to be inferior, dangerous ammo that might like, destroy their guns.


8 posted on 04/03/2013 6:03:10 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Squib rounds in the enemy’s barrel. Devious.


9 posted on 04/03/2013 6:06:48 PM PDT by MachIV
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To: Hodar

>>It’s called Capitalism, you make the business decisions today that keep you in business tomorrow.

Exactly. I think some communist dictator said, “The capitalists will sell me the rope I use to hang them.”

When the ammo manufacturers choose to help the government take guns away from the people, who will buy their ammo when the people are disarmed and pacified to the point where that government is killing us with gas chambers and health care denials?


10 posted on 04/03/2013 6:08:11 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: NoLibZone

I am thinking of having a yard sale. The one item I think will sell well is .22LR Ammo. I think I will add a smaller sign to the large one saying .22LR anno. $2.50 box of 50 Remington High speed.

Any thoughts? should I maybe charge more?

Also

Winchester .22 Magnum $10.00 box of 50?


11 posted on 04/03/2013 6:10:48 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: MachIV

no just piss poor foreign ammo that has a tendency to blow up.

i mean they’re trying to save money, right? they’ll buy the cheapest foreign crap and BOOM you’re picking gun parts out of your face.


12 posted on 04/03/2013 6:10:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Bryanw92

I”m sorry - I must be missing something.

Is the US Gov’t disarming and executing citizens? Are you aware of any plans to do so? Does the US have Gas Chambers under construction?

Lighten up, Francis

It’s simply a case of Supply and Demand. The anti-Gun idiots have created an artificial run on guns and ammo. There is a finite Supply. We are involved in 2 wars in different countries and facing a nuclear threat in a 3rd.

The manufacturers are running pretty much full capacity, and like any other business - you fill the big orders first.


13 posted on 04/03/2013 6:18:04 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: NoLibZone

DHS is LYING!!

If they were trying to “save money” they would NOT be buying ONLY JHP rounds!!!


14 posted on 04/03/2013 6:20:30 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Strategerist

THANK you very much!


15 posted on 04/03/2013 6:25:09 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Hodar

They’re going to keep buying and stockpiling ammo using borrowed dollars for as long as it takes. They know they can’t get all the guns, but they can make ammo so scarce that people stop accumulating guns.


16 posted on 04/03/2013 6:33:25 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: NoLibZone

Strategic Ammo Reserve!


17 posted on 04/03/2013 6:38:03 PM PDT by jaz.357 (Contrary To Ordinary)
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To: Old Sarge
"...The purchase order was for billyuns and billyuns of rounds, but just how many are in the warehouses now?...."

In about 3 years, President Cruz/Paul/Palin/Rubio can sell it all off to the private sector at bargain prices....unless we have Civil War 11 before then.

18 posted on 04/03/2013 6:38:15 PM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: Bryanw92

AMMO CONTROL


19 posted on 04/03/2013 6:39:36 PM PDT by CMailBag
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To: NoLibZone
The ammo manufacturers have chosen the fed over us.
Never forget this.

Which manufacturers, exactly? Is there a list of the winning bidders for each of the discussed contracts?

20 posted on 04/03/2013 6:45:10 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: NoLibZone
She does have a point. Buying ammo in bulk does lower the per round cost. Trust me on this.

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21 posted on 04/03/2013 6:46:22 PM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: atomic_dog
i hate you... /s
22 posted on 04/03/2013 7:09:27 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: atomic_dog
Where the ammo is going:


23 posted on 04/03/2013 7:39:46 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: NoLibZone

Ammo is the Reardon Metal of the times.


24 posted on 04/03/2013 9:03:07 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: yarddog

Depends on the speed with which you deliver the ammo?

1,435 ft/second perhaps?


25 posted on 04/03/2013 11:40:49 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: NoLibZone

This has to be a lie. When has the government tried to save money?

I am awaiting the “90% off,” “government surplus” sale held by the next administration.


26 posted on 04/04/2013 6:51:13 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

They gotta store this stuff somewheres....


27 posted on 04/04/2013 6:57:24 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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