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Fox's Eric Bolling: Firing of Rutgers tough coach 'wussification of American men'
Politico ^ | 04/04/2013 | By DYLAN BYERS

Posted on 04/04/2013 8:39:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Rutgers University basketball coach Mike Rice was fired today for hitting, kicking and verbally abusing his players during practices — a decision that has met with widespread praise from many commentators in the news media, who found his actions abhorrent.

Not so Fox News co-host Eric Bolling, who said the decision to fire Rice was evidence that American culture was in decline because of the "wussification of American men."

“We’re in the midst of political correctness crushing our ability to teach kinds, to discipline kids, to disagree with people or one another or kids,” Bolling said on today's edition of "The Five." “Our culture is in decline, and this is an example of our culture in free fall — and I’m saying this because he got fired, not because of what he did.”

Elsewhere in the world of sport, and not totally unrelated, the English soccer club Sunderland is defending its decision to hire Paolo Di Canio, an Italian coach who repeatedly made fascist salutes throughout his playing career — the sort of thing that got a Greek player suspended just two weeks ago.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: abuse; athletics; basketball; bullying; coach; fired; rutgers
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1 posted on 04/04/2013 8:39:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Click this link for the video
2 posted on 04/04/2013 8:40:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

We should just give everyone a participation ribbon and not keep score. It hurts feeling, you know.


3 posted on 04/04/2013 8:42:44 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: SeekAndFind

I played basketball in high school in the 1970s. I do not agree with the notion that this coach’s firing is an example of wussification. This guy has a problem and needs help.


4 posted on 04/04/2013 8:43:24 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

I wonder if he would have been fired if he took Rutgers to the Sweet Sixteen?

Winning is a great deodorant.


5 posted on 04/04/2013 8:44:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SoCal Pubbie

RE: This guy has a problem and needs help.

How is he compared to Bobby Knight?


6 posted on 04/04/2013 8:45:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Sadly, if he was just getting rough with the players, it wouldn’t have amounted to anything.

But once he was “phaggotified”, i.e. painted with the tar brush of using epithets against the depraved freaks who are apparently getting more and more control in our society, he was doomed. (I really think we should start using that term as it apparently really sets off the sodomites.)

Remember, this is “Red” Rutgers - the New Jersey State University. As I well know as an alumnus, that school was taken over by the far left long ago. ALSO, his immenseness, Chris Christie, weighed in on this and said he should have been fired. That ended it.


7 posted on 04/04/2013 8:46:18 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
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To: SeekAndFind

From what I can tell, having seen the video of Rice in action, much worse.


8 posted on 04/04/2013 8:47:17 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SeekAndFind

Can’t agree with Bolling on this one. Verbal toughness is acceptable in coaching. But the coach crossed the line with the physical abuse of young men. Put aside the clear inappropriateness of his manhandling of the players, one has to ask if this approach to coaching is at all effective. Most interviewed respected college and pro coaches I’ve listened to over the past 24 hours overwhelmingly say “no”.


9 posted on 04/04/2013 8:48:26 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.)
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To: SeekAndFind

He echoed my sentiments upon hearing the story yesterday.


10 posted on 04/04/2013 8:48:38 AM PDT by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

I haven’t seen the video, but I agree that sometimes people are just jerks and deserve to be fired. I’ve worked for a bully boss. Though he never hit a kicked me, he was a drain on productivity and creativity. There are coaches who win without hitting and kicking their players.


11 posted on 04/04/2013 8:49:58 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: ZULU

He called his players motherf*ckers, c*nts, sissy b*tches, and f*cking faggots. He hit them, and threw basketballs at them from short range, aiming for the head in some cases. There’s no excuse for the guy. He was a bully, just like Booby Knight, but a lot worse at least as much as the evidence shows.


12 posted on 04/04/2013 8:51:29 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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RE: From what I can tell, having seen the video of Rice in action, much worse.

If this is the case, was Bobby Knight ever fired?


13 posted on 04/04/2013 8:51:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: BlueStateRightist

The video showed us a total of what ONE minute of what has to have been days, weeks and months or training.

That one minute is probably edited from hours and days worth of video.

No such thing as balanced sampling when you say ONE WORD critical of the gay perversion.


14 posted on 04/04/2013 8:52:02 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Yeah, I just watched the video. He should have been fired. Good riddance.


15 posted on 04/04/2013 8:52:05 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Read my first line. I said “Sadly, etc.”

If he had left out the attacks on sodomites, he would still be sitting there.


16 posted on 04/04/2013 8:53:02 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes Bobby was fired by that liberal idiot Myles Brand who then went on to head up the NCAA.


17 posted on 04/04/2013 8:53:21 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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18 posted on 04/04/2013 8:53:27 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (The Old White Flag Republicans can go straight to He// and take their pal Obama with them!)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Couldn’t agree more. This Coach has issues. I played basketball, football and ran track. I had many tough coaches. This guy isn’t tough, he’s nuts.


19 posted on 04/04/2013 8:53:51 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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Eh. That’s what happens to assholes ... they get fired for being an asshole. Coaches barking at, and toughening up, players is part of the job — but he ought not be beating the hell out of them.

SnakeDoc


20 posted on 04/04/2013 8:53:56 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: SeekAndFind
'wussification of American men'
It wasn't that he shoved players around. It wasn't that he threw basketballs at their heads. It wasn't that he ran them ragged on the court.
What got him fired was that he called a player a "faggot." Oooooooooooooooh, the humanity!

21 posted on 04/04/2013 8:54:15 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SeekAndFind

Knight was fired from Indiana in 2000.


22 posted on 04/04/2013 8:54:44 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: oh8eleven

“What got him fired was that he called a player a “faggot.” “

That’s simply not true.


23 posted on 04/04/2013 8:55:50 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Knight, being an Ohio State man, was a Woody Hayes disciple.
And other than a few liberal weenies, his former players here in Indiana pretty much will tell you he prepared them for success in life after college ball.


24 posted on 04/04/2013 8:56:05 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

BS


25 posted on 04/04/2013 8:57:16 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SeekAndFind

We had a Bobby Knight-autographed folding metal chair in a charity auction several years ago for a group we’re involved with. One of the guys working acquisitions at the time was just awesome.


26 posted on 04/04/2013 8:58:21 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: oh8eleven

At least he didn’t refer to their women’s team as “nappy headed hos.”


27 posted on 04/04/2013 8:58:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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I couldn’t imagine Travis Ford (Okstate) ever calling one of his players a faggot. Of course, his team underachieves for the level of talent he has, and he’s not trying to motivate a bunch of white faggots to compete against the likes of Marcus Smart.


28 posted on 04/04/2013 8:59:01 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SeekAndFind
How is he compared to Bobby Knight?

No comparison. Bobby Knight threw a chair onto the court, not at anybody. This guy was throwing basketballs at players' heads; he was hitting and kicking them. What he did constituted assault and battery, on a serial basis. This is not a case of "oh, he hurt my feelings" or other such "wussification". There is absolutely no excuse for what this coach did to those players.

29 posted on 04/04/2013 8:59:43 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: nascarnation

Yes, I know that. Knight was not an evil man, nor one who did no good. He was a bully though, and this was demonstrated many times on people other than his players.


30 posted on 04/04/2013 9:00:00 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SeekAndFind
Rutgers University basketball coach Mike Rice was fired today for hitting, kicking and verbally abusing his players during practices

Baloney!

The university knew all about the hitting, kicking and verbal abuse a long time ago. He had already been disciplined (suspended and fined) for all that and it was in the past.

Rice got fired because he is a loser with a losing record. There is no good excuse for losing.

31 posted on 04/04/2013 9:00:02 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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What got him fired was going 15-16 this year.


32 posted on 04/04/2013 9:00:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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First of all, if we go down the line of political correctness and bowing to pressure groups, which I so not dismiss out of hand, using the word c*nt would be enough even leaving out the gay slurs. Taking out all the epithets however, and this guy's nutcase behavior was still enough to get canned.
33 posted on 04/04/2013 9:03:12 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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What got him fired was going 15-16 this year.
Bingo! We have a winner.
34 posted on 04/04/2013 9:04:06 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SeekAndFind
I, too, worry about the wussification of America. For example, laws requiring motorcycle helmets, bicycle helmets, seat belts, etc.

But Rice is a just a jerk & I shed no tears for him.

35 posted on 04/04/2013 9:06:08 AM PDT by gdani
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To: SeekAndFind

A man can be a strong leader and impose discipline and maintain high standards without cursing and without using physical contact in anger. The examples of coaches and parents and other leaders who have accomplished this are many. It’s one thing to grab a player to move him into proper position, but it is something else entirely to use force in anger and while appearing out of control. The man clearly has no business being a coach, in my opinion. And Rutgers should be embarrassed that it required national exposure of the videos to get them to take the appropriate action.


36 posted on 04/04/2013 9:06:20 AM PDT by Stingray51
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As much as I hate UCLA, John Wooden’s teams would wipe the floor with this guy’s best squads, and the harshest words Wooden every spoke was “goodness gracious.”


37 posted on 04/04/2013 9:08:38 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SeekAndFind

No remotely the same. Knight was intense, but did not run around doing what this guy did.


38 posted on 04/04/2013 9:11:36 AM PDT by ilgipper (The lesson for the GOP is simple - don't let the opposition define you)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have to call BS on this one. This coach looks like a poster boy for cruelty to animals.

If we are going to talk about these players as people who may sign multimillion dollar contracts in a couple of years, they better well be motivated by something more than intimidation.
However, in the real world, it’s follow the money. The results are important, not how the animals are trained.
It’s high time that colleges require that people who play college sports be appropriate college material and can perform academically at that level, not gang bangers that have to be driven.


39 posted on 04/04/2013 9:13:47 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: ZULU

^^^^^THIS^^^^


40 posted on 04/04/2013 9:14:28 AM PDT by Viennacon
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While I agree to an extent, that crossed the line. Throw a basketball at my head, and I'm liable to toss it right back.

There's also a fine line between losing control and being a strong disciplinarian. Rice lost it.

41 posted on 04/04/2013 9:16:08 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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Eric Bolling was a professional baseball player. Would he think differently if his coach chucked a few high, hard ones at his head during batting practice?

Motivate, fine. Be passionate, fine. Even get in someone’s grill if you need to and the age of your players is appropriate.

Physical abuse? Never. I’ve been a coach and if you ever get to the point where you feel the need to assault a player to get your point across, it’s time to take up gardening.


42 posted on 04/04/2013 9:18:28 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Now post his teams graduation rates and grade point averages compared to other coaches of the era. Yes he was emotional and stepped over the line at least twice that I can think of with his charges, but he also held them to a standard of excellence on and off the court.

His dismissal was all about power at IU nothing else.

As to the chair picture - I have had to explain for many years that there was an elderly lady at the end of the floor who did not have a seat but refused to leave without watching the team play - he was merely assisting her in finding a place to sit.


43 posted on 04/04/2013 9:19:59 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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RE: t there was an elderly lady at the end of the floor who did not have a seat but refused to leave without watching the team play - he was merely assisting her in finding a place to sit.

I find this very strange. If he wanted to assist the lady, why did the throw the chair to the court? Why not bring the chair to her at the end of the floor or ask someone to do it?


44 posted on 04/04/2013 9:22:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I disagree. A real man can control himself and encourage, not berate players. What kind of example is he setting?


45 posted on 04/04/2013 9:22:16 AM PDT by DallasDeb
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"But once he was “phaggotified”, i.e. painted with the tar brush of using epithets against the depraved freaks who are apparently getting more and more control in our society, he was doomed."

You are on to something. If he said MFer he would be OK.

46 posted on 04/04/2013 9:23:11 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: SeekAndFind

When I was the same age as these kids I was going through Basic Training back in the 60’s. Looks pretty tame to what the D.I.s did to us both verbally and physically. I realize this is only a game, but they will not be scarred for life and may even profit in the long run.


47 posted on 04/04/2013 9:25:40 AM PDT by Starstruck (Question. What would the U.S. look like today if there was no 2nd Amendment.)
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It was a joke...

I went to IU during the early part of the 90s. I knew a few of the players (one of them was a history major like myself). The media did a great job demonizing Knight, because the players thought the world of him. The graduation rates for IU players under Knight was through the roof.


48 posted on 04/04/2013 9:27:50 AM PDT by Hoosier Catholic Momma (How long till my Arkansas drawl fades into the twang of southeast Ohio?)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

“I’ve been a coach and if you ever get to the point where you feel the need to assault a player...”

I agree. Being a tough, verbal coach is one thing. I don’t even mind some cuss words. However, hitting a player is just plain wrong. That isn’t coaching... it’s assault. If that is all you have in your coaching arsenal... you are a failure from the get go. Coaches motivate, teach and instruct their players to stay focused... they don’t leave bruises.


49 posted on 04/04/2013 9:30:31 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: SeekAndFind
Maybe it's changed since my day but I can only hope that there's never a video released of drill sergeants doing their job.

It'd be a shame to fire 'em and/or shut down the military.

50 posted on 04/04/2013 9:33:38 AM PDT by Proud_texan
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