Skip to comments.CNN Examines Using ARs for Hog Hunting
Posted on 04/04/2013 5:55:29 PM PDT by SJackson
If you had to pick the single most controversial issue in America the past few months, the AR would no doubt be at the top of that list. And if you had to characterize the medias position on the subject, it would without hesitation be unfavorable.
Given those facts, it was surprising when CNN ran an exclusive online video on March 22 with a semi-positive focus on the use of ARs for hog hunting in agrarian Georgia. The segment ran on Anderson Cooper 360 and featured interviews with Jim Pritchard, a Georgia farmer, and Hal Shouse, owner operator of hogSWAT, a local hog hunting outfitter that utilizes ARs and night vision optics.
As the segment points out, feral hogs number around 5 million in the U.S. and do an estimated $1.5 billion in damage each year. Farmers encourage outfitters like Shouse to host hunters on their property to help alleviate crop damage done by the rapidly multiplying hordes of wild hogs. With nightly hog hunting excursions for paying customers, Shouse said the use of ARs and standard 30-round magazines are a practically useful tool.
Victor Blackwell, the host of the segment, asked Shouse why the AR is at the center of such a heated issue: When you say AR and 30-round magazine, thats a political hot button.
Sure it is, because people have decided to make it [an issue], Shouse explained. Tragedies happen, but the weapon didnt create these tragedies. Sick individuals used this weapon, this tool, and they did something destructive with it, something ugly. Thats all you can say about it.
Blackwell also asked, Who needs this weapon outside of the military or someone who wants to kill someone else?
You know need is a big word. You dont need a lot of things that you choose to use because they make your job easier. I could do this with a single shot weapon, sure, I just wouldnt be nearly as effective. But I dont want to. Im a legal, responsible gun owner, Ive evaluated all the different weapons out there and I decided this weapon is what makes sense for me and my company, Shouse said.
Wouldn’t you want a beefier cartridge for hunting hog?
He can keep me oversupplied.
Lots of guys use the AR for hogs here in TX.
There are rounds that would work better and you can get AR uppers in all kinds of calibers, but for an open shot, 5.56x45 should be sufficient.
At today’s prices I would use 5.45x39.
“Wouldnt you want a beefier cartridge for hunting hog?”
I’ve killed plenty of hogs with the .223. If you do a half-way decent bit of shot placement you’ll drop ‘em in their tracks.
Recently watched some video of a guy doing some pig hunting from a helicopter with a .223. Eight shots. Eight dead pigs.
Jager Pro thermal hog hunting.
They were shooting at Candy Crowley?
BTW, my godparents were named Jackson and were Jewish.
In fact, they named me. I didn't know Rooster was an old Jewish name.;-)
Yup, and that AR really lets you place them accurately.
Would curing feral hog meat make it safe to eat?
I eat the heck out of it. I follow USDA rules for handling and processing. Including curing and cooking.
What do they taste like?
What do you expect pigs to taste like? We've got a lot of acorns around here, so they've got a decent amount of fat, and in that way (by my book) they are better than the lean storebought crap.
I just only see people make sausage of it and was wondering, why not Ham? or Bacon?
You can dunk 'em in boiling water, yeah 250lb dead pig in boiling water, or you can use the burning straw method which stinks badly. And then scrape. And probably either use a brand or a torch to get rid of the hard-to-get-rid-of hairs.
You gotta leave the skin on for bacon or hams. And not cook it in the process of releasing the hairs.
It takes screwing up a few times to gain those skillsets.
I guess I would expect them to be gamey - not that that’s always a bad thing depending on what the critters eat...
Do you eat the “oysters”? They’re gooooood!
My son got his first hog off a .223 and over 30 hogs later that’s all he uses.
When I was a kid there was an old couple across the street that had a hog killin’. My daddy dropped them with one .22 shot between the eyes. They had 55 gallon drums of boiling water sitting under three poles tied at the top. At the top of the poles they had a wench, what we called a “come-a-long”, to pick them up with then ease them down into the water. Once pulled out the hair was easy to scrape off. It was a fun day.
I'm lucky if I get the liver.
No. But they are already healthier than most tame hogs fed in SPF barn. They are free range, few have diseases and don't walk around in their own crap.
We trapped them for years and at times fed them out before slaughtering them. They are very lean, not bred for quick growth. No hormones. Made some really good whole hog sausage. Barely enough fat to keep from sticking in the pan. EXCEPT: if they have been feeding on peanuts. If so, avoid. You cannot get the oil off of you or the equipment.
No peanuts around here.
***If you had to pick the single most controversial issue in America the past few months, the AR would no doubt be at the top of that list.****
The AR-15 first went on the market back around 1965. That is 58 years ago. They did not become a problem till the anti-gunners needed a new schtik to get their anti-gun platform moving again, and started beating the drums against those”evil” AWs.
Here in Arkansas feral hogs are shot and left to rot as most have psudo-rabies.
Was recently in north central Texas hog hunting and one gentleman had a an AR with .458 SOCOM upper. Similar to shotgun slug, heavy, but lots more velocity..developed from spec ops. Used frangible rounds or barnes bullets with devastating effect. Took down 320 pound boar from one shot in the back. Eviscerated interior and broke like 7 ribs.
.300 blackout wasn’t good enough?
interesting I’d always heard hogs/pigs had an extra bone in their forehead that deflected lower powered cartridges. So I wouldn’t have expected a .22 to do the trick. Especially after a young lady when I was in high school a long time ago tried to commit suicide with a .22 to the temple and lived when the bone deflected it enough.
They why do cops “need” 30-round magazines? Are they planning to engage in massacres?
Why do the overlords automatically rate 3X the ammunition as the peasants?
That was NOT the intent of the 2A.
Exactly. The grabboids libtards are pretending that AR-15s are some new death ray just dropped out of UFOs from Planet Evil.
Just a warning. Have slaughtered some that were brought in by friends who had killed them on their peanut fields. Will never do that again.
We helped them butcher them. Glad I did not have to eat it.
My dad put three hogs down with three shots. I’ve seen on Swamp People that aligators have a hard head and you have to hit them at the right angle or it bounces off. Of course on that show they also say the kill spot is the size of a quarter.
I raised a few hogs is high School. Come butcher time, the guy came out, started his trough of boiling water and grabbed his .22, put two shots (with shorts) right between the eyes from five feet. The pig just stared at him, he loaded up a LR and that put it down. When he halved him we poked around the 1/2" thick skull and found the shorts just flattened out on the bone.
Lots of people use .223.
58 years ago?
WOOPS! 48 YEARS AGO!
It was 58 years ago when the US army started giving it’s soldiers better arms than the citizens! Up until 1956, the average citizen had a better choice of rifles than the US military!
A few years back, I visited the closed for the winter local Scout Reservation. When I left, I stopped to open the gate and a man in full camo carrying an AR15 with scope startled me.
He was hunting coyotes. He had a permit to be on the camp grounds that also supports large deer and turkey populations
I had the pleasure of shooting an AR, recently. What a sweet weapon. I can’t wait to get one. When I told my husband I wanted one for our Anniversary present he asked if I wanted it in pink - pfffffffft! Camo would be nice, I said :-P
I have a Jewish friend who has discovered bacon in the last couple of years and is really into it. He didn’t get any growing up.
“Bacon” is going to be a full chapter of his book “Why We Jews Are Not The Chosen People”.
If one goes hog hunting, are they obligated to clean and eat their kill or can they leave the carcasses for the vultures and coyotes?
Though personally the .223 is a bit of a controversial cartridge for hunting the platform in its simplicity is wonderful with the near minimal recoil.
I would love to have both the .458SOCUM or .50 Beowulf and also the new 30 BLK (30AAC Blackout) as it mimics the 7.62x39 but with a better magazine profile instead of banana curved ones, and its not hard to make the case from a .223, plus you can use .30 hunting bullets.
My biggest pain is literally the pain of recoil, especially when using a big game cartridge.
Now realistically the whole cry and furor is fundamentally because the AR15 realistically is a threat to enemies both foreign and domestic, enemies who have control of America.
People and groups with an agenda of power control, and the simple presence of millions of armed Americans with an AR15 is very disturbing to them, so all the more reason to get a loan, raid the piggy bank, eat beans for a month all so you can get your AR15, because numbers don’t lie, the more Americans that are armed the longer we can pursue liberty and live by it.