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CNN Examines Using ARs for Hog Hunting
Petersons ^ | March 26, 2013 | Eric Conn

Posted on 04/04/2013 5:55:29 PM PDT by SJackson

If you had to pick the single most controversial issue in America the past few months, the AR would no doubt be at the top of that list. And if you had to characterize the media’s position on the subject, it would without hesitation be unfavorable.

Given those facts, it was surprising when CNN ran an exclusive online video on March 22 with a semi-positive focus on the use of ARs for hog hunting in agrarian Georgia. The segment ran on Anderson Cooper 360 and featured interviews with Jim Pritchard, a Georgia farmer, and Hal Shouse, owner operator of hogSWAT, a local hog hunting outfitter that utilizes ARs and night vision optics.

As the segment points out, feral hogs number around 5 million in the U.S. and do an estimated $1.5 billion in damage each year. Farmers encourage outfitters like Shouse to host hunters on their property to help alleviate crop damage done by the rapidly multiplying hordes of wild hogs. With nightly hog hunting excursions for paying customers, Shouse said the use of ARs and standard 30-round magazines are a practically useful tool.

Victor Blackwell, the host of the segment, asked Shouse why the AR is at the center of such a heated issue: “When you say AR and 30-round magazine, that’s a political hot button.”

“Sure it is, because people have decided to make it [an issue],” Shouse explained. “Tragedies happen, but the weapon didn’t create these tragedies. Sick individuals used this weapon, this tool, and they did something destructive with it, something ugly. That’s all you can say about it.”

Blackwell also asked, “Who needs this weapon outside of the military or someone who wants to kill someone else?”

“You know ‘need’ is a big word. You don’t need a lot of things that you choose to use because they make your job easier. I could do this with a single shot weapon, sure, I just wouldn’t be nearly as effective. But I don’t want to. I’m a legal, responsible gun owner, I’ve evaluated all the different weapons out there and I decided this weapon is what makes sense for me and my company,” Shouse said.


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KEYWORDS: guncontrol; need; secondamendment
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1 posted on 04/04/2013 5:55:29 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; phantomworker; joesnuffy; ..
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2 posted on 04/04/2013 5:55:53 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: SJackson

Wouldn’t you want a beefier cartridge for hunting hog?


3 posted on 04/04/2013 5:58:20 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin
My brother does pretty darn well with the .223 and feral pigs.

He can keep me oversupplied.

/johnny

4 posted on 04/04/2013 6:00:33 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: BenLurkin
Yeah I was wondering how long it would take CNN to get around to this subject.
5 posted on 04/04/2013 6:00:51 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: BenLurkin

Lots of guys use the AR for hogs here in TX.

There are rounds that would work better and you can get AR uppers in all kinds of calibers, but for an open shot, 5.56x45 should be sufficient.


6 posted on 04/04/2013 6:03:39 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: BenLurkin

At today’s prices I would use 5.45x39.


7 posted on 04/04/2013 6:06:18 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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8 posted on 04/04/2013 6:09:03 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

“Wouldn’t you want a beefier cartridge for hunting hog?”

I’ve killed plenty of hogs with the .223. If you do a half-way decent bit of shot placement you’ll drop ‘em in their tracks.

Recently watched some video of a guy doing some pig hunting from a helicopter with a .223. Eight shots. Eight dead pigs.


9 posted on 04/04/2013 6:10:04 PM PDT by FAA
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To: SJackson

MMMM...bacon!


10 posted on 04/04/2013 6:10:05 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: SJackson

Jager Pro thermal hog hunting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EymHKsaOpRg


11 posted on 04/04/2013 6:10:11 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: SJackson

They were shooting at Candy Crowley?


12 posted on 04/04/2013 6:11:25 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Happy to be represented by Lt. Col. Allen West)
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To: SJackson
I thought you were Jewish...have you too been seduced by bacon?

BTW, my godparents were named Jackson and were Jewish.

In fact, they named me. I didn't know Rooster was an old Jewish name.;-)

13 posted on 04/04/2013 6:14:20 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: FAA

Yup, and that AR really lets you place them accurately.


14 posted on 04/04/2013 6:14:31 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Would curing feral hog meat make it safe to eat?


15 posted on 04/04/2013 6:15:47 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
What would make feral pig meat unsafe to eat besides leaving it raw at room temperature for more than 4 hours? (USDA rules)

I eat the heck out of it. I follow USDA rules for handling and processing. Including curing and cooking.

/johnny

16 posted on 04/04/2013 6:22:26 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

What do they taste like?


17 posted on 04/04/2013 6:30:07 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: andyk
Like pork.

What do you expect pigs to taste like? We've got a lot of acorns around here, so they've got a decent amount of fat, and in that way (by my book) they are better than the lean storebought crap.

/johnny

18 posted on 04/04/2013 6:33:24 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Ok.
I just only see people make sausage of it and was wondering, why not Ham? or Bacon?


19 posted on 04/04/2013 6:33:51 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: andyk

Chicken.


20 posted on 04/04/2013 6:34:37 PM PDT by TaMoDee ( Lassez les bons temps rouler dans les 2013! Geaux, Pack, Geaux!)
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To: mylife
Because getting rid of the hair is a pain in the democrat.

You can dunk 'em in boiling water, yeah 250lb dead pig in boiling water, or you can use the burning straw method which stinks badly. And then scrape. And probably either use a brand or a torch to get rid of the hard-to-get-rid-of hairs.

You gotta leave the skin on for bacon or hams. And not cook it in the process of releasing the hairs.

It takes screwing up a few times to gain those skillsets.

/johnny

21 posted on 04/04/2013 6:37:31 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SJackson
  Coincidentally, I just made a web video for some wild hog hunters here. There are some pics showing the guns used.

http://animoto.com/play/IHo55ORGEMHKQsvs00wb4w
22 posted on 04/04/2013 6:39:29 PM PDT by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I guess I would expect them to be gamey - not that that’s always a bad thing depending on what the critters eat...


23 posted on 04/04/2013 6:42:12 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: andyk
Depends on how you handle them. I have professional training. The hand that touches the hide never touches the meat.

/johnny

24 posted on 04/04/2013 6:43:52 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Do you eat the “oysters”? They’re gooooood!


25 posted on 04/04/2013 6:44:24 PM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To: SJackson

My son got his first hog off a .223 and over 30 hogs later that’s all he uses.


26 posted on 04/04/2013 6:47:16 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: JRandomFreeper

When I was a kid there was an old couple across the street that had a hog killin’. My daddy dropped them with one .22 shot between the eyes. They had 55 gallon drums of boiling water sitting under three poles tied at the top. At the top of the poles they had a wench, what we called a “come-a-long”, to pick them up with then ease them down into the water. Once pulled out the hair was easy to scrape off. It was a fun day.


27 posted on 04/04/2013 6:48:09 PM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To: Terry Mross
Mostly, brother brings them to me packed with ice, internal/external, and very little of the vicera left, regardless of how much I ask him to leave the lungs, heart, etc.....I have to buy sausage casings. So no huevos y huevos rancheros for breakfast for me.

I'm lucky if I get the liver.

/johnny

28 posted on 04/04/2013 6:49:22 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: mylife
Would curing feral hog meat make it safe to eat?

No. But they are already healthier than most tame hogs fed in SPF barn. They are free range, few have diseases and don't walk around in their own crap.

We trapped them for years and at times fed them out before slaughtering them. They are very lean, not bred for quick growth. No hormones. Made some really good whole hog sausage. Barely enough fat to keep from sticking in the pan. EXCEPT: if they have been feeding on peanuts. If so, avoid. You cannot get the oil off of you or the equipment.

29 posted on 04/04/2013 6:57:39 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

No peanuts around here.


30 posted on 04/04/2013 7:03:56 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: SJackson

***If you had to pick the single most controversial issue in America the past few months, the AR would no doubt be at the top of that list.****

The AR-15 first went on the market back around 1965. That is 58 years ago. They did not become a problem till the anti-gunners needed a new schtik to get their anti-gun platform moving again, and started beating the drums against those”evil” AWs.


31 posted on 04/04/2013 7:13:05 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The murals in OKC are destroyed.)
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To: mylife

Here in Arkansas feral hogs are shot and left to rot as most have psudo-rabies.


32 posted on 04/04/2013 7:15:17 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The murals in OKC are destroyed.)
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To: mylife

Was recently in north central Texas hog hunting and one gentleman had a an AR with .458 SOCOM upper. Similar to shotgun slug, heavy, but lots more velocity..developed from spec ops. Used frangible rounds or barnes bullets with devastating effect. Took down 320 pound boar from one shot in the back. Eviscerated interior and broke like 7 ribs.


33 posted on 04/04/2013 7:18:34 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: TheBigJ

.300 blackout wasn’t good enough?


34 posted on 04/04/2013 7:19:57 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Close.


35 posted on 04/04/2013 7:20:47 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Terry Mross

interesting I’d always heard hogs/pigs had an extra bone in their forehead that deflected lower powered cartridges. So I wouldn’t have expected a .22 to do the trick. Especially after a young lady when I was in high school a long time ago tried to commit suicide with a .22 to the temple and lived when the bone deflected it enough.


36 posted on 04/04/2013 7:56:21 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: SJackson

They why do cops “need” 30-round magazines? Are they planning to engage in massacres?

Why do the overlords automatically rate 3X the ammunition as the peasants?

That was NOT the intent of the 2A.


37 posted on 04/04/2013 8:05:37 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Exactly. The grabboids libtards are pretending that AR-15s are some new death ray just dropped out of UFOs from Planet Evil.


38 posted on 04/04/2013 8:07:39 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: mylife

Just a warning. Have slaughtered some that were brought in by friends who had killed them on their peanut fields. Will never do that again.

We helped them butcher them. Glad I did not have to eat it.


39 posted on 04/04/2013 8:09:15 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: reed13k

My dad put three hogs down with three shots. I’ve seen on Swamp People that aligators have a hard head and you have to hit them at the right angle or it bounces off. Of course on that show they also say the kill spot is the size of a quarter.


40 posted on 04/04/2013 9:16:11 PM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To: BenLurkin
Wouldn’t you want a beefier cartridge for hunting hog?

AR-10.

>.308

41 posted on 04/04/2013 9:19:24 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: reed13k
interesting I’d always heard hogs/pigs had an extra bone in their forehead that deflected lower powered cartridges. So I wouldn’t have expected a .22 to do the trick.

I raised a few hogs is high School. Come butcher time, the guy came out, started his trough of boiling water and grabbed his .22, put two shots (with shorts) right between the eyes from five feet. The pig just stared at him, he loaded up a LR and that put it down. When he halved him we poked around the 1/2" thick skull and found the shorts just flattened out on the bone.

42 posted on 04/04/2013 9:26:27 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: BenLurkin

Lots of people use .223.

I wouldn’t.


43 posted on 04/04/2013 10:05:42 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

58 years ago?

LOL!


44 posted on 04/04/2013 10:35:23 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

WOOPS! 48 YEARS AGO!

It was 58 years ago when the US army started giving it’s soldiers better arms than the citizens! Up until 1956, the average citizen had a better choice of rifles than the US military!


45 posted on 04/04/2013 10:55:58 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The murals in OKC are destroyed.)
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To: SJackson

A few years back, I visited the closed for the winter local Scout Reservation. When I left, I stopped to open the gate and a man in full camo carrying an AR15 with scope startled me.

He was hunting coyotes. He had a permit to be on the camp grounds that also supports large deer and turkey populations


46 posted on 04/05/2013 4:22:18 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: SJackson

I had the pleasure of shooting an AR, recently. What a sweet weapon. I can’t wait to get one. When I told my husband I wanted one for our Anniversary present he asked if I wanted it in pink - pfffffffft! Camo would be nice, I said :-P


47 posted on 04/05/2013 4:29:55 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: RoosterRedux; SJackson

I have a Jewish friend who has discovered bacon in the last couple of years and is really into it. He didn’t get any growing up.

“Bacon” is going to be a full chapter of his book “Why We Jews Are Not The Chosen People”.


48 posted on 04/05/2013 4:31:52 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: mylife
Lots of guys use the AR for hogs here in TX.

If one goes hog hunting, are they obligated to clean and eat their kill or can they leave the carcasses for the vultures and coyotes?

49 posted on 04/05/2013 4:38:47 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: SJackson

Though personally the .223 is a bit of a controversial cartridge for hunting the platform in its simplicity is wonderful with the near minimal recoil.
I would love to have both the .458SOCUM or .50 Beowulf and also the new 30 BLK (30AAC Blackout) as it mimics the 7.62x39 but with a better magazine profile instead of banana curved ones, and its not hard to make the case from a .223, plus you can use .30 hunting bullets.

My biggest pain is literally the pain of recoil, especially when using a big game cartridge.
Now realistically the whole cry and furor is fundamentally because the AR15 realistically is a threat to enemies both foreign and domestic, enemies who have control of America.

People and groups with an agenda of power control, and the simple presence of millions of armed Americans with an AR15 is very disturbing to them, so all the more reason to get a loan, raid the piggy bank, eat beans for a month all so you can get your AR15, because numbers don’t lie, the more Americans that are armed the longer we can pursue liberty and live by it.


50 posted on 04/05/2013 4:43:40 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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