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Colorado considers gun ban for people "suspected" of being dangerous
Fox News ^ | April 04, 2013 | ASSociated Press

Posted on 04/04/2013 7:47:25 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th

"...block people who are suspected of being dangerous from possessing a firearm..."

"...allow psychologists, nurses, family therapists and counselors to ask that a person's name be entered into the national background check system..."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 666; banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
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The NRA says it's "most unconstitutional" legislation of the session.
1 posted on 04/04/2013 7:47:25 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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We need a database of individuals that should be prohibited from governing others.


2 posted on 04/04/2013 7:49:01 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Gun ban is fine for dangerous folks such as Leftists, and Dim pols.


3 posted on 04/04/2013 7:50:03 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est.)
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To: Repeal The 17th
Heck, the would be gun grabbers don't get get it. They suspect we're all dangerous. Well, we are - dangerous to their socialist/fascist plans for control.

I will not submit. Molon Labe!

4 posted on 04/04/2013 7:50:57 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Gene Eric
We need a database of individuals that should be prohibited from governing others.

Easy. Just assemble the names of all congresscritters from the pass hundred years or so.

5 posted on 04/04/2013 7:51:00 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Repeal The 17th; All

(Hey, a car is a weapon, too...why stop @ firearms? Let’s deny people subjectively deemed as “dangerous” a driver’s license, too! And picking up a steak knife @ a restaurant? Ah, ah, ah...no...no-no! Naughty! Naughty!)


6 posted on 04/04/2013 7:51:17 PM PDT by Colofornian (If BoM is everlasting gospel, why no god as exalted man, 3 glorious degrees, men becoming gods, etc?)
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To: Gene Eric

“...allow psychologists, nurses, family therapists and counselors “ And of course there are no mentally imbalanced or dangerous people in these professions, just like every police officer is a stable, calm individual that would never get drunk and beat their wife or fire their weapon in a dangerous manner.


7 posted on 04/04/2013 7:52:16 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Profiling is OK when the brown shirts do it.


8 posted on 04/04/2013 7:52:30 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I predict the exact same Freepers will hate the GOP Candidate for: 2016,2020,2024,2028, 2032.)
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To: grumpygresh

I’m fine for banning guns from criminals.


9 posted on 04/04/2013 7:53:05 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Repeal The 17th

How Soviet of them. Welcome to the USSA, comrades.


10 posted on 04/04/2013 7:54:27 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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11 posted on 04/04/2013 7:54:41 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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I don’t like the cut of Obama’s jib!
Let’s turn him in!


12 posted on 04/04/2013 7:56:21 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Repeal The 17th

What qualifys an RN?
What qualifys a GP?


13 posted on 04/04/2013 7:57:34 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Repeal The 17th

It is unconstitutional. Accumulating such a nefarious data base by the government, and then using that “data” to penalize or stigmatize without due process, not only violates individual rights but is Orwellian.


14 posted on 04/04/2013 7:59:52 PM PDT by allendale
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To: Vince Ferrer

15 posted on 04/04/2013 8:00:00 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Repeal The 17th
J'accuse is the only rule the Left wants. And to think I once wanted to live in Colorado.
16 posted on 04/04/2013 8:00:11 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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17 posted on 04/04/2013 8:01:12 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Repeal The 17th

What the hell is wrong with Colorado?

Is everybody there on dope now?


18 posted on 04/04/2013 8:01:45 PM PDT by greene66
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To: greene66
"Submit, It Is Bliss"


19 posted on 04/04/2013 8:05:00 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Repeal The 17th

I keep telling you folks, they are going for all the marbles this time. They believe that only rebellion can stop them; and they don’t believe that the people have the will to do that.

Confiscation IS the game plan. For certain.


20 posted on 04/04/2013 8:06:13 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: greene66

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation

Never been read in CO. I guess.


21 posted on 04/04/2013 8:06:52 PM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: mylife

We need to stop sugar coating it. “the reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take them from us.”


22 posted on 04/04/2013 8:06:59 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Got a problem? Nothing a drone strike can't fix.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Colorado and Connecticut, the newest acquisitions to North Korea.


23 posted on 04/04/2013 8:08:30 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

FMCDH


24 posted on 04/04/2013 8:08:33 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Nothing more dangerous than someone not voting for the Bolshies.


25 posted on 04/04/2013 8:15:40 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: JoeProBono

I like Casa Blanca, but my wife hates it. She cannot stand Humphrey.


26 posted on 04/04/2013 8:17:08 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Repeal The 17th

Documentation File on the negative impact of the Obamanation Counterculture on America.


27 posted on 04/04/2013 8:17:58 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: greene66
sure is feeling that way. my state is turning into the freak state west. bastards. the new mile high salute is a right stiff arm and a HEIL HICKENLOOPER!!!

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28 posted on 04/04/2013 8:19:29 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government shoud fear us.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Ooo, a slight rewrite would make things amusing:

“DENVER – Legislation that black people who are suspected of being dangerous from possessing a firearm is expected to be introduced in Colorado, setting up the next fight over gun control laws.”

Not terribly grammatically correct, but you see the idea.


29 posted on 04/04/2013 8:21:09 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Texas Fossil

30 posted on 04/04/2013 8:22:00 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Repeal The 17th
The measure would provide an additional tool for mental health professionals short of having someone committed if they make this conclusion.

"We need to be concerned about people having guns who really can't handle them responsibly," McCann said Thursday.

"The main purpose of the bill is to identify people, because of mental health or substance abuse issues, who really should not be able to purchase and possess weapons."

I'm sorry but if the Democrats are going to go back to 1860 and start rolling back civil rights they need to commit people in order to do it or go before a judge.

31 posted on 04/04/2013 8:24:45 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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To: Repeal The 17th
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

32 posted on 04/04/2013 8:24:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Repeal The 17th

I agree. Probably a test case to see if it can be put into obamacare law.


33 posted on 04/04/2013 8:25:23 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Mastador1

most counselors I’ve known are recovering addicts and/or have more mental problems than most. That’s what attracts them to that field.


34 posted on 04/04/2013 8:28:04 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Repeal The 17th

The NRA knew that SB197 was unconstitutional (re. domestic violence accusations: restraining orders) and didn’t send us anything about it that I saw. But publicized NRA attention to the mental bill that bigwigs of both political parties have been screaming to get for years is a start. I applaud them for it.

Don’t allow the right of subgroups of Americans to be violated, or your Second Amendment right will be violated in the near future, regardless of how important or wealthy you may be. Sorry, but I’m being more blunt now.

Apparently, I wasn’t clear enough on this before and didn’t see it discussed. The socialists/fascists against the Second Amendment use emotion-evoking anecdotes, compromises and incrementalism to eventually get all the control that they desire. I saw what the same constituents did to fathers’ rights and family rights during the ‘90s and since, and how they did it.


35 posted on 04/04/2013 8:32:28 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Rusty0604

Ever see the write up of all the congresscritters? Isn’t a hand full out of all of
them that should be left alone with a box of crayons.


36 posted on 04/04/2013 8:35:39 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: Repeal The 17th

Some excerpts from “National Organizations With Anti-Gun Policies:”
http://www.ammoland.com/2009/02/anti-gun-national-organizations/
http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=51640

[Some sources above. The NRA deleted its original copy of this older list, but many of the following have reorganized under organizations with more general and covert names. University women’s studies departments were hard at work in nursing program departments, too, at least as early as the ‘80s—maybe earlier.]

American Counseling Association
American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry
American Psychological Association
Black Mental Health Alliance
National Association of School Psychologists
National Association of Community Health Centers

Ambulatory Pediatric Association
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Academy of Ambulatory Care Nursing
American Medical Women`s Association
American Medical Student Association
American Medical Association
American Association for the Surgery of Trauma
American Trauma Society
American Medical Association
American Counseling Association
American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Association for World Health
American Nurses Association
American Association of Neurological Surgeons
American Association of Family and Consumer Sciences
American Public Health Association
Association of American Medical Colleges
Black Mental Health Alliance
Congress of Neurological Surgeons
National Coalition Against Domestic Violence
National Black Nurses` Association
National Association of Chain Drug Stores
National Assembly of National Voluntary Health & Social Welfare Organizations
National Association of School Psychologists
National Association of Pediatric Nurse Associates & Practitioners
National Association of Public Hospitals
National Coalition Against Domestic Violence
National Association of Social Workers
National Association of Children`s Hospitals and Related Institutions
National Association of School Psychologists
National Association of Community Health Centers
National Council on Family Relations
National Organization on Disability
National Spinal Cord Injury Association
Physicians for Social Responsibility
Society of Critical Care Medicine

Related corporations:

BJC Health Systems
Blue Cross Blue Shield - Kansas City
General American - St. Louis (insurance)
Health Midwest
ICN Biomedicals
SSM Health System - St. Louis
Unity Health - St. Louis


37 posted on 04/04/2013 8:37:52 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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Little different arrangement and a few more names here for clarification on anti-Second-Amendment political constituent demographics—a wakeup for many. Excerpts: Other organizations of interest: political feminist organizations.

American Medical Women’s Association
American Federation of Teachers
American Association of School Administrators
American Nurses Association
General Federation of Women’s Clubs
Int’l Ladies’ Garment Workers’ Union
Int’l Association of Educators for World Peace
League of Women Voters of the United States*
National Coalition Against Domestic Violence
National Association of School Psychologists
National Association of Pediatric Nurse Associates & Practitioners
National Education Association
National Association of Elementary School Principals*
National Coalition Against Domestic Violence
National Association of Secondary School Principals
National Association of Social Workers
National Council of the Churches of Christ in the USA
National Council on Family Relations
National Organization for Women
National Political Congress of Black Women
National Parent, Teachers Association*
NETWORK: A National Catholic Social Justice Lobby
Southern Christian Leadership Conference
U.S. Catholic Conference, Dept. of Social Development
United States Catholic Conference
United Methodist Church, General Board & Church Society
United Church of Christ, Office for Church in Society*
Women Strike for Peace
Women’s National Democratic Club
Women’s Action for New Directions (WAND)
Women’s Int’l League for Peace and Freedom
YWCA of the U.S.A.


38 posted on 04/04/2013 8:41:05 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

With Obama and his democrats in power, most of the folks in this country are dangerous.


39 posted on 04/04/2013 8:43:23 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~)
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It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.


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40 posted on 04/04/2013 8:50:42 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Can we impeach for being “suspected” of not being eligible?


41 posted on 04/04/2013 9:01:53 PM PDT by mykroar (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice.-Thomas Paine)
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To: bravo whiskey
That flag you posted says, "You can retrieve your rights when you leave." If a law like the one in the posted article is passed, that won't be true for tourists whose names are seen or heard by anyone in medical or mental fields during their visits (accidents happen often in CO). Their names will go to NICS, and they'll outlawed nationwide for possessing firearms or ammunition. I'm sure the sentences for that will be interesting, too. And the law in CO is always on the lookout for juicy tourist revenues/debt.

Don't make jokes or say that you will disobey if reported by liberal/left medical/mental racket participants, folks. We know doctors and other professionals who went to federal prisons for five years for nothing more than accusations in restraining orders (VAWA) and setups.
42 posted on 04/04/2013 9:02:27 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Red Steel; TigersEye

Ping.


43 posted on 04/04/2013 9:06:31 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Gene Eric

“We need a database of individuals that should be prohibited from governing others.”

Good one.


44 posted on 04/04/2013 9:11:39 PM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
We need to stop sugar coating it. “the reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take them from us.”

Exactly. I may or may not "need" an AR to defend myself and my family. But what I absolutely need is the freedom to own one if I choose.

The 2nd Amendment - in fact the entire Bill of Rights - was put in place to protect us from well meaning but misguided individuals. That may be too kind. I'm sure some actually think they are trying to make things better. Most I believe know they are on the path to fascism. No thanks, I choose freedom, and I will fight for it.

45 posted on 04/04/2013 9:14:06 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Repeal The 17th
I guess Frank Zappa was more prescient than thought. Ladies and Gentlemen, The Central Scrutinizer:

Central Scrutinizer:
This is the CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER...it is my responsibility to enforce all the laws that haven't been passed yet. It is also my responsibility to alert each and every one of you to the potential consequences of various ordinary everyday activities you might be performing which could eventually lead to *The Death Penalty* (or affect your parents’ credit rating). Our criminal institutions are full of little creeps like you who do wrong things...and many of them were driven to these crimes by a horrible force called MUSIC!

Our studies have shown that this horrible force is so dangerous to society at large that laws are being drawn up at this very moment to stop it forever! Cruel and inhuman punishments are being carefully described in tiny paragraphs so they won't conflict with the Constitution (which, itself, is being modified in order to accommodate THE FUTURE).

From “Joe's Garage”, of course.

46 posted on 04/04/2013 9:21:44 PM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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Oddly enough, the people of Colorado seem intent on rivaling the people of New York, California, and Maryland in setting the most lunatic and indefensible firearms laws in the nation.

Not at all what one would have expected.


47 posted on 04/04/2013 9:30:59 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Repeal The 17th
"We need a database of individuals that should be prohibited from governing others."

I am thinking about this for quite a long time.  Good and common sense rules needs to be set up for this.

 

48 posted on 04/04/2013 9:41:03 PM PDT by OneHun
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“nurses”?????

Just what might qualify a nurse to report someone as being dangerous?

I wouldn’t go to a psychologist, family therapist, or a counselor, on a bet.

But nurses are a bit hard to avoid.

I can imagine getting some stupid “gun” question on a medical history form, and the nurse not liking my attitude about not addressing the question.


49 posted on 04/04/2013 9:41:53 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Repeal The 17th
Anyone who has ever chewed a poptart into a mountain that might look like a gun or who has bought their kid a Hello Kitty Bubble Blower Gun is will soon jump past being labeled dangerous to a full blown terrorist.
50 posted on 04/04/2013 9:43:34 PM PDT by bgill
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