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Immigration bill would import 1 million workers per year
The Daily Caller ^ | 4/5/2013 | Neil Munro

Posted on 04/05/2013 3:27:55 AM PDT by markomalley

The Senate’s draft immigration bill will increase the inflow of foreign workers to 1 million people per year, according to government data and news reports.

The 1 million inflow would provide almost one foreign worker for every four Americans who turn 18.

The rate would be high enough to fill up all the extra jobs created during the last five months.

The 1 million inflow would include at least 350,000 people capable of competing for middle-class skilled jobs sought by the 1.8 million Americans who graduate from university each year.

“I believe in a free-market, but this [inflow] will aggravate the problems for [American] graduates,” Richard Vedder, director of the libertarian Center for College Affordability and Productivity, told The Daily Caller.

The increased inflow numbers suggest “we’re substituting foreign workers for domestic workers, and maybe that makes a certain about of sense” for cost-conscious businesses, he said.

In response, he suggested, colleges could reduce enrollment of U.S. students who will be crowded out of middle-class jobs, even after paying expensive tuition prices. “Why should kids be paying $100,000 to go to college and then get jobs working at Wal-Mart or Target?”

Amid the stalled economy, college graduates comprise roughly one-third of the minimum-wage workforce. Half of recent graduates are working in jobs sought by high-school graduates and dropouts, and roughly 20 million skilled and unskilled Americans lack full-time jobs.

The inflow of workers is good for the Democratic Party’s political clout, because it increases unemployment, reduces wages and boosts dependence on government aid.

But it creates a problem for Republicans, partly because low unemployment and high wages encourage people to get married, have kids and vote GOP.

It’s also a problem for Sen. Marco Rubio, who is simultaneously helping to write the bill and preparing to run for president in 2016 as a supporter of the middle-class.

“We … want to make sure Americans don’t lose their jobs because of a guest worker program,” he told Politico.

Even before the bill is released, the public has already shown its concern about immigration’s impact on jobs. “A majority [56 percent] of Americans … say that illegal immigrants hurt the economy by driving down wages for many Americans,” said a March poll by the left-of-center Public Religion Research Institute.

The bill is being drafted in secret by eight Republican and Democratic senators, including Rubio. It is backed by top Democratic leaders, including President Barack Obama, and many in the establishment media.

Under the political deal, companies would bring in many low-wage workers. In exchange, the workers would be allowed to become citizens and vote from 2026 onwards, likely for Democratic candidates.

Leaks from the negotiators say the new bill would increase the annual inflow by 80,000 workers immediately, by at least 200,000 workers after six years, and perhaps up to 500,000 workers.

The new bill would create a visa program for companies to hire annually between 15,000 and 200,000 foreign workers for jobs sought by middle-class Americans.

The number of these so-called “W visas” would start at 15,000 but rise to 75,000 in five years. It could later rise to 200,000 per year, depending on the economy. The number could go even higher than 200,000 if companies are willing to pay penalties, according to leaked reports.

The pending bill would also increase visas for university graduates by roughly 85,000, and also provide an unlimited number of green cards for foreigners who pay for a two-year, technology-related masters degree at an American university, according to a March 20 Washington Post article.

On April 3, The Associated Press also reported that a side deal on agricultural workers would offer residency and citizenship to agricultural workers who work seven years in the fields. Currently, farmers get 55,000 H-2A visas agricultural workers per year, or less than than 10 percent of guest workers.

The future inflow of agriculture workers could go up to 200,000, estimated Alex Nowrasteh, a immigration advocate at the libertarian Cato Foundation. The AP article did not say how many workers would be imported into the non-agricultural economy each year via the agricultural sector.

The extra visas would be added to the conditional amnesty scheduled for 11 million illegal immigrants, which would allow them to compete against 20 million unemployed and underemployed Americans for service-sector jobs, such as cooks, cleaners, day-care workers, waiters and laborers.

Roughly 450,000 illegal immigrants have already applied for work-permits offered by Obama at a Rose Garden event during the 2012 election season.

Media reports say business lobbyists will use any congressional debate on the bill to demand greater annual inflows.

There have been no media reports that the bill’s authors are planning to reduce the number of work-visas.

The draft bill would allow all of these guest workers and the 11 million newly legalized immigrants to apply for citizenship, and then to seek green cards for some of their working-age relatives.

The resulting extra inflow of visa-workers and new citizens’ relatives would permanently boost competition for American jobs and increase long-term U.S. spending on welfare, health-care and retirement.

Under current rules, companies bring in roughly 650,000 non-agricultural workers per year, according to Jessica Vaughan, a researcher at the Center for Immigration Studies.

Roughly half of the today’s inflow of 650,000 can apply for green cards and citizenship.

The current inflow of visa-workers includes roughly 340,000 seasonal workers who work in hotels, resorts, restaurants and other jobs where demand drops in the winter months. The seasonal total includes roughly 180,000 J-visa workers, 55,000 H-2B workers and roughly 25,000 entertainers and support staff, such as carnival and circus workers.

These seasonal workers hold jobs that were once widely sought by middle-class Americans seeking money for college, any by working-class Americans whose income was topped up by unemployment checks during the winter.

Nationally, most of those jobs are still performed by Americans.

Under current rules, companies also import roughly 300,000 university trained workers on visas lasting from one to three years. These professionals include roughly 76,000 graduates working on one-year OPT visas and up to 500,000 graduates on renewable three-year H-1B visas.

The H-1B workers are especially valuable to companies such as Microsoft, Deloitte and Intel, because regulatory loopholes mean the workers can be paid at lower rates than more experienced and older American tech experts.

Many H-1B workers are computer experts, but companies are using the program to hire auditors, accountants, media experts, architects, professors, engineers, writers and other skilled professionals.

Many H-1Bs are hired by so-called “job shops,” which are immigrant-owned companies that build national networks of immigrants for low-wage contract work at Americans companies.

Other professional visas also include 75,000 “NAFTA visas” for Canadian and Mexican professionals, and 16,000 “O visas” for people with a “special ability.”

Many of the seasonal J-visa holders take professional-level jobs. In 2010, for example, the 181,484 J-visa workers included 2,110 doctors and 30,1254 “professors and scholars.”

Companies also import roughly 62,000 workers under so-called “L visas.” The L visas allow companies to transfer skilled or unskilled workers from overseas branches of a company to a U.S. branch. However, some of these L visas are won by family-owned companies seeking to bring relatives into the country.

Also, roughly 4,000 visas are being awarded to bring in religious workers, such as imams and priests.

The current visa count also understates the inflow of foreign workers, because many immigrants’ spouses are also allowed to work in the United States, said Vaughan.

Also, when workers become citizens, they are entitled to request green cards for their relatives. That family reunification process has massively increased the inflow of low-skill immigrants and retirees since the 1990s.

In 2012, for example, the reunification rules allowed the immigration of 540,000 working-age people aged from 17 to 64, said Vaughan. Most have few marketable skills, and must compete against unskilled Americans for jobs as gardeners, delivery drivers or cleaners.  The 2012 inflow also included roughly 30,000 retirees, whose health-care and retirement costs will be paid by American workers.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; borderwars; immigration; immigrationreform; invasion; visas

1 posted on 04/05/2013 3:27:55 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

25m people out of work...
or 17% unemployment (of those employable)...

yea, we need more foreigners to take what little jobs there are


2 posted on 04/05/2013 3:29:57 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

Who and why do they invite these folks in????


3 posted on 04/05/2013 3:35:28 AM PDT by DooDahhhh
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To: DooDahhhh

Article tells you: business owners, who get to pay them less. Bolstered by Dems, who look forward to the government aid our citizens will then need. The great sell-out of the American people.

What’s Marco Rubio doing in the middle of this, is the better question.


4 posted on 04/05/2013 3:46:50 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: DooDahhhh

undocumented democrat voters


5 posted on 04/05/2013 3:52:40 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: markomalley

“But it creates a problem for Republicans, partly because low unemployment and high wages encourage people to get married, have kids and vote GOP.”

?????????????????????????????


6 posted on 04/05/2013 3:54:09 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: firebrand

“What’s Marco Rubio doing in the middle of this, is the better question.”

I think Rubio is looking for a constituency he can identify. (This is a liberal tactic.) Blacks are taken. The EBT crowd, spoken for. He wants his own that will say, hey, he’s one of us.

I don’t think Rubio is what the Tea Party is looking for.


7 posted on 04/05/2013 4:41:06 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: firebrand

Marco Rubio is no conservative... that is why he wants Big Government to take American’s jobs and give them to illegal aliens and foreigners


8 posted on 04/05/2013 4:43:25 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: markomalley
Liberals continue to have it both ways.

Scream bloody murder about the lousy economy they ‘inherited’ and the ghastly racist sewer which life in the US has become...BUT, posture like clowns with their faux, humanitarian indignation about allowing the starving masses in, to enjoy the many benefits and abundance of life in this WONDERFUL American utopia.

Which way IS it?

9 posted on 04/05/2013 4:45:57 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: SeminoleCounty

The last straw was Marco voting to confirm John (Fonda) Kerry as Sec of State.


10 posted on 04/05/2013 4:46:10 AM PDT by Captain7seas (Fire Jane Lubchenco and John Pistole.)
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To: SMARTY

Liberals fundamentally want a bad economy, period. Why?
— Helps stoke class warfare
— Helps create more clients & dependency
— Gives them more power by over the above with handouts
— Lets them posture as the “friend” of the downtrodden

Its not that hard to figure out.


11 posted on 04/05/2013 4:57:42 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Gen.Blather
I think Rubio is looking for a constituency he can identify. (This is a liberal tactic.) Blacks are taken. The EBT crowd, spoken for. He wants his own that will say, hey, he’s one of us.

Yes, that was my impression of the comment you addressed. Rubio's ethnicity speaks for itself.

12 posted on 04/05/2013 5:02:17 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: markomalley

But the Obama administration is trying to send the German family who fled Germany because of persecution for homeschooling their children back. They say there is no right to educate your children as you see fit.

I really, really hate Obama. I am sure he wants to bring more muslims here.

FUBO


13 posted on 04/05/2013 5:09:45 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: OldPossum

My wife is Cuban, and a Reagan Republican. Keep your racist spew to yourself.


14 posted on 04/05/2013 5:15:27 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: Gen.Blather
“What’s Marco Rubio doing in the middle of this, is the better question.”

I think Rubio is looking for a constituency he can identify.

Marco Rubio is looking out to his next election. Who will elect him and who will donate to his campaign. He is not looking out for the average freeper or average American. He sure as hell wants more Hispanics voting for him a more will with him supporting such amnesty bills and sellouts of the American worker

Lindsey Graham supports such bills for the same reason. He figures he get reelected a few more times before American electorate turns so non-white....he can can personally escape this. Anyways he's in South Carolina is less invaded by immigrants. A Republican Senator in Colorado will be voted out sooner by the increasing Hispanic bloc vote than will Lindsey Graham

15 posted on 04/05/2013 5:19:57 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: markomalley

all immigration must be halted until the real unemployment rate fall to some particular rate, close to 5%.


16 posted on 04/05/2013 6:47:42 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: warchild9

I can comment that Mr. Rubio is Hispanic and he will appeal to those of his same ethnicity.

Call it “racist spew” if you wish but don’t tell me that I cannot comment on a political matter. This is what FR is about.

And I don’t really give a sh#t what you wife is. That is irrelevant!


17 posted on 04/05/2013 7:00:10 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum
I can comment that Mr. Rubio is Hispanic and he will appeal to those of his same ethnicity.

Not all Hispanics are the same. Mexicans hate Cubans, like Rubio, they will not vote for him.

18 posted on 04/05/2013 7:02:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: rockinqsranch

I know. One job this nation is woefully understaffed in is editors.


19 posted on 04/05/2013 7:46:29 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: dennisw

Rubio will not have my vote. The Republican party cannot count on my vote further down the ticket.


20 posted on 04/05/2013 7:48:41 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Gen.Blather

It is really a shame that men’s personal egos and ambitions have taken precedence over their principles. I know that great men have always had a sort of ambitious streak, call it what you will, but this is different.


21 posted on 04/05/2013 8:31:12 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: OldPossum

You sound old, badly-educated, and unemployed.


22 posted on 04/05/2013 8:54:41 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: firebrand
business owners, who get to pay them less.

Reminding us once again that "conservative" and "pro-business" are not identical.

23 posted on 04/05/2013 8:55:23 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: warchild9
My wife is Cuban, and a Reagan Republican. Keep your racist spew to yourself.

The younger Cubans vote Obama/Democrat. Go ask Gloria and Emilio Estefan. Still these younger Cubans have more Republicans than do Mexican-Americans by a long shot

24 posted on 04/05/2013 9:21:51 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: markomalley; sickoflibs; Liz; All

WE don’t need more ‘guestworkers’!

[snip]Under current rules, companies bring in roughly 650,000 non-agricultural workers per year, according to Jessica Vaughan, a researcher at the Center for Immigration Studies.

Roughly half of the today’s inflow of 650,000 can apply for green cards and citizenship.

The current inflow of visa-workers includes roughly 340,000 seasonal workers who work in hotels, resorts, restaurants and other jobs where demand drops in the winter months. The seasonal total includes roughly 180,000 J-visa workers, 55,000 H-2B workers and roughly 25,000 entertainers and support staff, such as carnival and circus workers.

These seasonal workers hold jobs that were once widely sought by middle-class Americans seeking money for college, any by working-class Americans whose income was topped up by unemployment checks during the winter.

Nationally, most of those jobs are still performed by Americans.

Under current rules, companies also import roughly 300,000 university trained workers on visas lasting from one to three years. These professionals include roughly 76,000 graduates working on one-year OPT visas and up to 500,000 graduates on renewable three-year H-1B visas.

The H-1B workers are especially valuable to companies such as Microsoft, Deloitte and Intel, because regulatory loopholes mean the workers can be paid at lower rates than more experienced and older American tech experts.

Many H-1B workers are computer experts, but companies are using the program to hire auditors, accountants, media experts, architects, professors, engineers, writers and other skilled professionals.

Many H-1Bs are hired by so-called “job shops,” which are immigrant-owned companies that build national networks of immigrants for low-wage contract work at Americans companies.

Other professional visas also include 75,000 “NAFTA visas” for Canadian and Mexican professionals, and 16,000 “O visas” for people with a “special ability.”

Many of the seasonal J-visa holders take professional-level jobs. In 2010, for example, the 181,484 J-visa workers included 2,110 doctors and 30,1254 “professors and scholars.”

Companies also import roughly 62,000 workers under so-called “L visas.” The L visas allow companies to transfer skilled or unskilled workers from overseas branches of a company to a U.S. branch. However, some of these L visas are won by family-owned companies seeking to bring relatives into the country.

Also, roughly 4,000 visas are being awarded to bring in religious workers, such as imams and priests.

The current visa count also understates the inflow of foreign workers, because many immigrants’ spouses are also allowed to work in the United States, said Vaughan.

Also, when workers become citizens, they are entitled to request green cards for their relatives. That family reunification process has massively increased the inflow of low-skill immigrants and retirees since the 1990s.

In 2012, for example, the reunification rules allowed the immigration of 540,000 working-age people aged from 17 to 64, said Vaughan. Most have few marketable skills, and must compete against unskilled Americans for jobs as gardeners, delivery drivers or cleaners. The 2012 inflow also included roughly 30,000 retirees, whose health-care and retirement costs will be paid by American workers.


25 posted on 04/05/2013 10:05:29 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: dfwgator

Re your post 18, good point.


26 posted on 04/05/2013 10:33:31 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: warchild9
You sound old, badly-educated, and unemployed.

You really aren't very good at assessing people, now are you?

I am old (perhaps the moniker "OldPossum" was a clue), 72 in fact. But I am not badly-educated (two degrees) and neither am I unemployed in the sense that I am of the age in which I should be working. I am retired and the retirement income of my wife and myself is $95,000 annually. Not too shabby, huh?

27 posted on 04/05/2013 10:38:02 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: markomalley

The good news is that the rest of us remaining will get the Diwali holiday off work too.


28 posted on 04/05/2013 11:40:46 AM PDT by rhoda_penmark
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To: markomalley

Republican Party elites have been jealous that the Democrats get to be the Party of Treason.

So they are crafting this immigration/amnesty bill in order to get in on the treason themselves.


29 posted on 04/05/2013 5:19:49 PM PDT by Pelham (Without Deportation you have De Facto Amnesty.)
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To: firebrand

“What’s Marco Rubio doing in the middle of this, is the better question”

That’s easy. Marco Rubio has a terrible record on immigration from his time in the Florida legislature.

If you want to see what he is really about versus his image, go look at how he sabotaged attempts by the Florida legislature to do something about illegal aliens.

Rubio is a pro-amnesty quisling. Don’t be fooled by his attempts to posture as an immigration patriot. He is anything but.


30 posted on 04/05/2013 5:24:04 PM PDT by Pelham (Without Deportation you have De Facto Amnesty.)
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To: AuntB; markomalley; Liz; Impy; Gilbo_3; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS; NFHale; stephenjohnbanker; ...
RE :”WE don’t need more ‘guestworkers’!”

Yes, their arguments for new workers are full of holes.
At the same time pushing immigration and amnesty Libs make an tear-jerking HBO film ‘documentary’ that shows examples of working families poverty where they cant afford food.

American Winter(subtitle:'In the richest country in the world why are millions of families left out in the cold?' )
We were struck by the vast number of families who are in need of help to stay in their homes, or even to eat. These families were often able to get food assistance, to keep them from starving, but they could not get resources that could help them get back on their feet, and begin to support their families again.
In making American Winter we saw firsthand how stressed and scared these parents are everyday by the prospect of losing their homes, and by the daily struggle to pay their bills. However, the most overwhelming part was seeing the kids who have lost hope for their future. These kids see their parents work extremely hard, and the kids say to themselves, “we’re barely getting by everyday, how am I going to make it when I grow up?” And losing that sense of optimism and hope does not bode well for a child’s future.

link to American Winter(subtitle:'In the richest country in the world why are millions of families left out in the cold?' )

Then they argue that Americans REFUSE to do the jobs that immigrants will do. How does MORE competition raise salaries of workers?

How about skilled immigrants? Well they get those skills here in US colleges. Give those tuition breaks to Americans instead of foreigners.

I missed your pings, you are my Aunt Bee.

31 posted on 04/05/2013 6:41:22 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

:<), I’ll be around once in a while. Busy times.


32 posted on 04/06/2013 6:23:55 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: sickoflibs

bttt


33 posted on 04/06/2013 9:17:31 AM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: sickoflibs

This is the hypocrisy of the left, what do Americans need —JOBS! Why are we losing jobs? Because the government is taking all of our money, in addition there are far too many legal and illegal immigrants with little to no education who will do the jobs that lower skilled Americans should be doing. Will the libs speak out for restraining immigration? No they are all for immigration, legal or not, the more the merrier, then they pretend to care about these poor Americans. Either they are insane or total hypocrits.


34 posted on 04/06/2013 9:17:58 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: DooDahhhh

These folks are invited in because American voters are not doing their due diligence of voting out those politicians who do not serve our interests regarding immigration, legal or illegal. This problem is in both parties, look at how McCain, Lindsey Graham, Jeff Flake and many top Republicans are always eager to show how pro immigrant they are while disparaging Americans by calling them bigots or anti-immigrant. Look at all the mud wrestling over the Hispanic vote. These clowns are so tone deaf that they don’t realize how insulting they are too us, it is as if we do not even exist.


35 posted on 04/06/2013 9:24:16 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Pelham
Rubio is another opportunist. There are many of them, they take on whatever disguise is needed to get elected. This is why we have to take a closer look at who we elect. The political professionals are very good at reading public opinion, especially today with so many polls and focus groups. They know how we think, but they don't let us know how they really think. They have all the knowledge and they keep it close to the vest. Knowledge is power, they have the power and we don't.
36 posted on 04/06/2013 9:32:09 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Pelham; sickoflibs

” If you want to see what he is really about versus his image, go look at how he sabotaged attempts by the Florida legislature to do something about illegal aliens.

Rubio is a pro-amnesty quisling. Don’t be fooled by his attempts to posture as an immigration patriot. He is anything but.”

NAILED it!


37 posted on 04/06/2013 11:58:00 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Pelham

Got it.


38 posted on 04/06/2013 12:41:43 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Pelham
RE :”Rubio is a pro-amnesty quisling. Don’t be fooled by his attempts to posture as an immigration patriot. He is anything but.”
......
NAILED it!”

No, No, you have it ALL wrong.
Rubio is driving a real hard bargain to get the best deal for us from Democrats. He is holding firm their feet to the fire.

And he promises us that those illegals will vote conservative, just what we want. Esp when they see his smiling boy-like face. What could go wrong?

This is foolproof !

39 posted on 04/06/2013 7:21:42 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

Foolproof : )


40 posted on 04/08/2013 10:29:39 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: AuntB
And the guest worker increase only supplements the legal immigration numbers of 1.2 million a year. The decade ending in 2010 marked the highest number of immigrants ever to enter the US--13.9 million. And yet during that same decade, we had a net loss of 400,000 jobs. This is insanity.


41 posted on 04/08/2013 10:36:13 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

“And the guest worker increase only supplements the legal immigration numbers of 1.2 million a year. The decade ending in 2010 marked the highest number of immigrants ever to enter the US—13.9 million. And yet during that same decade, we had a net loss of 400,000 jobs. This is insanity. “

Bears repeating until people get it through their thick skulls.


42 posted on 04/08/2013 6:25:22 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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