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The Great Gun-Control Fizzle (Obama has become America's Best Gun Salesman)
National Review ^ | 04/05/2013 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 04/05/2013 7:34:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Noumenon

We have to be careful not to fall asleep at the switch. Nothing is over till it is over. Until they vote the bills down, they are not dead. They could easily sit on crap for brains Harry’s desk and await the next “trajedy” only to be pulled out and demigogged again and rail roaded through. I don’t want my future tied to the SC on this issue, I want it done and over. Hopefully we can unseat some of the scum in 2014 and not have to worry about this again till after 2016.


21 posted on 04/05/2013 8:22:00 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: SeekAndFind
The noisesome odious cretins that infest the Maryland Legislature passed a gun control law that effectively bans ownership, transfer or even transposrt in and out of Maryland.

It is a flagrant violation of the 2nd Amendment but they don't care.

22 posted on 04/05/2013 8:32:35 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama still remains committed to ending our Second Amendment rights by whatever means necessary. He will pull out all the stops to ram the UN arms treaty through the Senate, his EPA will declare lead bullets and ammunition to be environmental hazards, under Obamacare doctors will be forced to quiz patients about gun ownership and that data will be correlated with any diagnosis or prescribed medications that would indicate the gun owner is “unstable”, guns will be routinely confiscated if a warrant is issued for so much as parking tickets and school kids will be coerced into snitching on the family members gun ownership. Government goon squads will be routinely raiding homes to confiscate guns on any pretext..remember that famous picture of a government SWAT team seizing little Elian Gonzales...coming soon to knock on your door.


23 posted on 04/05/2013 8:36:44 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: SeekAndFind

B.S. Everytime there is one of these gun control “arguments” we lose. This is how freedoms are lost, incrementally. This latest may cost us all rights to private transfer of ownership. The excuse will be the need for background checks. The so-called “gunshow loophole” is your right to sell what’s yours.

Newtown should be about drugs and mental illness along with the idiocy of schools as “zones of defenselessness.” There should be open mockery of idiots so simple-minded as to think that we can make people good by taking guns away.

Our side needs to recognize that we need to be a nation of people worthy of our own defense. If passive acceptance of drugs and violence makes armed Americans a danger to themselves then we will lose the right to be armed.


24 posted on 04/05/2013 8:38:52 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: ryan71
It’ll be right after they approve a new oil refinery.

We're getting two

http://www.industryweek.com/energy-management/first-new-domestic-refinery-35-years-being-built-north-dakota

25 posted on 04/05/2013 8:42:08 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: ryan71
Somebody needs to open a new factory.

I get the impression those who run such companies are too risk adverse.

26 posted on 04/05/2013 8:42:57 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: SeekAndFind
I have no doubt that the Nazis and commies on Capitol Hill will pass "the toughest gun control laws" in the entire Milky Way just as they did ObamaCare. The key to Americans winning this fight against the public servants in Washington, D.C. is civil disobedience. We need to take a page form the illegal aliens' La Raza handbook and become "undocumented gun owners". "Today we march! Tomorrow we vote! Screw the government's new laws and gun registration. We won't play their game. Next we will need to demand comprehensive "gun control" reform. This whole Sandy Hook fiasco being pulled on us by "the Newtown parents" does not trump the Second Amendment.

An Undocumented Gun Owner.

27 posted on 04/05/2013 9:11:08 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Political class whipped itself into a lather.Well next year is an election year,expected.


28 posted on 04/05/2013 9:11:42 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Steely Tom

They are not done yet.

They are still hoping for a gun ban.


29 posted on 04/05/2013 9:14:38 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

it’s his only economic stimulus plan that has worked. too bad it’s all on fear.


30 posted on 04/05/2013 9:53:19 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: TheRhinelander

No such thing as enough ammo for now...

:-)


31 posted on 04/05/2013 11:23:04 AM PDT by NOVACPA
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To: SeekAndFind
It is true that 90 percent of Americans support universal background checks. Who can be against background checks?

W R O N G

The very wording is a contradiction.

"Universal background checks" are NOT background checks.

What the neo-communists want with "Universal background checks" is a cross-linked database that includes medical records, prescription drug records, Military service records, credit scores, grade school and college records, school "resource officers" records, civil judgments, employee drug testing, etc, etc.

Essentially, any scrap of data that can be tied to you. At that point the benevolent shepherds in our "most transparent" administration will set the sell / no sell bar as they see fit.

That is not "do you have a felony conviction" check.

And the 90% figure?

They are referring to the Quinnipiac University poll from Feb, 2013.

It is a twisting of what was actually asked.

Yeah, I know, SHOCKING, right?

February 7, 2013 - Americans Back Women In Combat 3-1, But Less For Draft, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Support For Universal Gun Background Checks Is 92%

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-centers/polling-institute/nat ional/release-detail/?ReleaseID=1847

Demographics...

http://www.quinn ipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us02072013_demos.doc

The questions...

Word format
http://www.quinnipiac. edu/images/polling/us/us02072013.doc

PDF format
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us02072013.pdf

What is glaringly obvious by its absence is the exact description of what comprises a universal background check because it never did ask that question.

It also does not differentiate between a private sale and a FFL sale when referring to "gun buyers."

Here is the actual question...

38. Do you support or oppose requiring background checks for all gun buyers?

So of course the question is vague in that it only says "background checks."

NOT universal background checks.

But when it comes out of the neo-communists' mouth it has transformed into...

SUPPORT FOR UNIVERSAL GUN BACKGROUND CHECKS IS 92%

Umm, no, that is NOT the question that was asked.

Quinnipiac University Polling Institute... you lie.



One more thing...

Quinnipiac University
275 Mount Carmel Avenue
Hamden, Connecticut 06518

The numbers might be about right but it is the wording of the conclusion that was processed through the commie brain filter.

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32 posted on 04/05/2013 12:49:14 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI

Thanks for the “background check” on the background check poll.


33 posted on 04/07/2013 1:55:17 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: SeekAndFind
After a while I wonder if the "plan" is to get as many of us as possible to go through a background check for a gun purchase. That gives the grabbers a great start on their list.

I also wonder about ammunition purchases using a debit or credit card. Should we be going to the ATM and paying cash for ammo?

34 posted on 04/07/2013 2:02:25 PM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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