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Indiana's Donnelly, North Dakota's Heitkamp now support gay marriage
The Times Online ^ | 4/5/2013 | AP

Posted on 04/05/2013 10:11:52 AM PDT by jaydubya2

Edited on 04/05/2013 10:19:15 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON | Two freshman Democratic senators from conservative states, Joe Donnelly of Indiana and Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota, have joined the growing chorus of lawmakers who say they support gay marriage.

In separate statements released minutes apart on Friday, the senators said their views on the issue had evolved. They joined a rapidly growing list of senators who support gay marriage and the list now includes 49 Democrats, two independents who caucus with Democrats and two Republicans.


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TOPICS: Government; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda
Does Donnelly still call himself a Catholic?
1 posted on 04/05/2013 10:11:52 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: jaydubya2

“Dares a whole lot of ‘evolvin’ goin’ on out dare!” - Senator Foghorn


2 posted on 04/05/2013 10:13:54 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: jaydubya2
Joe Donnelly of Indiana and Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota, have joined the growing chorus of lawmakers who say they support gay marriage.

3 posted on 04/05/2013 10:19:47 AM PDT by kidd
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To: jaydubya2

The next battle is whether people who are against gay marriage can be fired from their job because of that. And so far the answer is yes.


4 posted on 04/05/2013 10:29:12 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: jaydubya2
In separate statements released minutes apart on Friday, the senators said their views on the issue had evolved.

Translation: they think can buy votes if they say their views have evolved.

5 posted on 04/05/2013 10:47:58 AM PDT by Mark17 (My body is in California, but my heart is in the Philippines)
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To: jaydubya2

I heard Rush talking about an interview with Jeremy Irons at Huff Po. Turns out, Mr. Irons wonders what’s to stop a father from marrying his son to avoid inheritance taxes. Incest laws? Sorry, doesn’t apply, no procreation.

Mr. Irons goes on to speculate that lawyers will apply such creativity to gay marriage laws that you’ll be amazed at what is implemented.


6 posted on 04/05/2013 10:56:47 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: jaydubya2

What again was all that noise from Heitkamp about being a “different kind of democrat?” Turns out, she’s just another face in the liberal crowd.


7 posted on 04/05/2013 10:57:06 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: jaydubya2

Do they understand the concept of evolving - evolution means Groups of organisms, as species, may change with the passage of time so that descendants differ morphologically and physiologically from their ancestors. evolving - to develop by evolutionary process from a primitive to a highly more organized form. Evolving is not the best term.


8 posted on 04/05/2013 11:04:07 AM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: jaydubya2

The last real conservative Democrat was the late Congressman Larry McDonald D-GA. I’m tired of the media portraying Donnelly and Heitkamp as conservatives. And voters in red states like ND and IN should know never to vote for ANY Democrats period these days.


9 posted on 04/05/2013 11:14:52 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Donnelly’s election can be attributed to the jaw droppingly idiotic Republican candidate in last year’s election. The guy was comfortably ahead until a broadcast debate in which his performance set new standards for incompetence. This was the guy who stated that women only got pregnant from rape if God wanted them to.


10 posted on 04/05/2013 11:20:41 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mark17

this is the homosexual lobby and the homostapo behind the scenes putting pressure on Dems to go with their agenda or their careers and reputation is over.

Now they are on record then lets get these buffoons voted out and send a message to these clowns that anyone wanting this communist agenda in the normal states will lose their office


11 posted on 04/05/2013 11:26:17 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Mr. Lucky

As a Hoosier, I think we miscalulated when we threw Lugar out of office without having a good replacement plan, and we ended up with Donnelly as our Senator.


12 posted on 04/05/2013 11:38:33 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: jaydubya2

Donnelly will occasionally be allowed off the plantation for show purposes, like he did in the symbolic vote on the UN arms trafficking treaty. But on any matter of substance, Donnelly is Reid’s monkey-boy. The democrat Senate campaign committee was his biggest donor, so they own him.

We definitely miscalculated by throwing out Lugar for Mourdock. Mourdock was an idiot. We have to be a lot better at vetting our candidates. We must have good candidates who are conservative, we can’t settle for good conservatives who are candidates.


13 posted on 04/05/2013 11:50:20 AM PDT by henkster (I have one more cow than my neighbor. I am a kulak.)
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To: jaydubya2

You are correct.

Too many FReepers are excited to replace an 80% Republican with a 97% Baraqqi for 6 years.

To folks in other states who are going to toss their RINO incumbent, be sure to send the candidate to MSM boot camp with Dana Loesh, or someone similar. The journ-0-lists will destroy them.


14 posted on 04/05/2013 11:53:14 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: jaydubya2
Does Donnelly still call himself a Catholic?

Just like Biden, Pelosi, the Kennedys, Sebelius, and a sh!tload of other hypocrites.

15 posted on 04/05/2013 11:56:13 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: henkster
Lest we forget re: Mr Lugar:

His yes vote on Kagan destroyed any hope of a filibuster against her.

Big advocate of Law of Sea Treaty as well as a few other UN missives

Evolving on global warming to support carbon tax.

I am proud to have voted for Mourdock. He made a stupid comment for which he suffered the consequences. Do not forget he was the ONLY State Treasurer to stand up for secured creditor rights when Dear Leader nationalized Chrysler, in effect giving it to the UAW and screwing secured and non secured creditors out of billions. He took Dear Leader and Chrysler to court in early 2009.

16 posted on 04/05/2013 12:06:24 PM PDT by slapshot ("Were not gonna take it anymore" Twisted Sister)
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To: jaydubya2

They are DemocRats...was there some doubt how they would vote? Why is this news? Slow Friday?


17 posted on 04/05/2013 12:12:00 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: jaydubya2

So now Indiana has this hanging over its head, shame..


18 posted on 04/05/2013 12:20:38 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Is John Boehner the Neville Chamberlain of American Politics?)
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To: FReepers
Liberals

What Can You Say?

Donate

19 posted on 04/05/2013 1:08:51 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: DJ MacWoW

What is THAT! Looks like a hairless dog with makeup!


20 posted on 04/05/2013 1:20:54 PM PDT by caww
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To: henkster

Before you start crying about Mourdock, what do you think would have happened if the people of Indiana had known about Donnelly’s evolving views on gay marriage?

Lugie was an idiot and a democrat. I’m glad he’s gone. Hope the people of Indiana have the sense to correct their mistake.


21 posted on 04/05/2013 1:21:05 PM PDT by Waryone (Trust the Lord not your own understanding. Acknowledge Him. He will direct your path.)
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To: jaydubya2

I say good riddance. I’m sure Lugar would have “evolved” into supporting gay marriage by now.


22 posted on 04/05/2013 1:22:41 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: caww

It’s a fat participant in a “Gay Pride” parade.


23 posted on 04/05/2013 1:24:43 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: DJ MacWoW

And then they wonder why...freaks!


24 posted on 04/05/2013 1:27:02 PM PDT by caww
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To: henkster
We definitely miscalculated by throwing out Lugar for Mourdock.

This is on the party. They misjudged the level of dislike for the establishment that was happening at that time. Mourdock was the only one to buck the party. Had the party taken more of a reasonable approach, a better candidate might have been found. Becky Skillman could have been a good, solid, likeable candidate. But no.

The party did the same thing all those years against Julia Carson, when it went of its way not to support whoever was running against her.

25 posted on 04/05/2013 1:28:09 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: caww

It’s a shame that more people don’t see those pics. They’d change their minds on homosexual marriage.


26 posted on 04/05/2013 1:29:20 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I watched a video posted on FR of a parade I think In Calf. Though warned it was pretty graphic I wanted to see just exactly what they were......it was beyond shocking what these people do to each other in full view of the parade watchers. I’ve never forgotten those images, though in some ways I wish I hadn’t seen them...but truth is what it is.


27 posted on 04/05/2013 1:33:08 PM PDT by caww
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To: slapshot

I voted for Mourdock in the primary and the general.
But somehow we HAVE to send these conservative candidates to boot camp to learn to deal with journ-0-list attacks.

Let’s face it - even rank amateurs like myself knew that journ-0-list Stephanopolus signaled the “war on women” theme back in Jan 2012.

We traded an 80% Republican for a 97% Baraqqi for 6 years.
That’s a terrible outcome.


28 posted on 04/05/2013 1:36:10 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Publius Valerius

I’m not sticking up for Lugar; he was a first-class RINO.

I think the problem was that Lugar had been around so long, that most of the people in the Indiana GOP heirarchy looked at him as a father figure. They all worked on one of his campaigns when they were in college and thinking about careers in politics. Nobody of stature had the balls to go to him quietly and tell him his time was up and he needed to retire gracefully.

Mourdock ran as an outsider, and even after the primary I don’t think he was embraced by the Party. He certainly wasn’t getting top-flight coaching. Good conservative, terrible candidate. Even before the abortion gaffe at the debate, his election was by no means certain. Donnelly on the other hand, was a good candidate. He was very good at portraying Mourdock as a “right wing extremist” and Mourdock was always on the defensive. We all knew Donnelly was an in-the-tank party apparatchik who would toe the Party Line. It wasn’t sold to the public.

So yes, this one is on the Party. Old guys like Lugar who are done need to be politely retired. New guys need to be waiting in the wings. We did pretty well with replacing Daniels with Pence in the governor’s office. Becky Skillman would have been a good candidate to replace Lugar.

As for Julia Carson, she was unbeatable. She had the most corrupt political machine in place to run a gerrymandered district designed to elect her forever. Andy Jacobs saw the writing on the wall and left office rather than get whacked by her in a primary. It doesn’t matter who the GOP runs for that seat, it is as solidly democrat as any other urban district. It will always be held by someone whose job is to “redistribute the wealth,” or as the early 80’s campaign slogan of Richard Hatcher in Gary stated: “Let’s get it ALL together!”


29 posted on 04/05/2013 1:42:54 PM PDT by henkster (I have one more cow than my neighbor. I am a kulak.)
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To: caww

A lot is hidden from the public. Reports on those parades are extremely sanitized. All hell would break loose if the truth were known.


30 posted on 04/05/2013 1:43:08 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: nickcarraway

If that’s the case, then our system is regarded by people who still value truth as a farce and the cogs that drive the economy rust up and cease to function. (At least in a world where people put their money where their mouth is.)


31 posted on 04/05/2013 1:56:41 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: DJ MacWoW

Unfortunately our society has become so depraved what is “evil” is certainly called “good” and “good” “evil”......there are no lines anymore....unless you choose good.


32 posted on 04/05/2013 2:03:32 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

The parents that support homosexuals don’t really know what they’re supporting. The truth is hidden.


33 posted on 04/05/2013 2:12:10 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: jaydubya2

And the stupid people of Indiana put Donnelly in office. SMH


34 posted on 04/05/2013 2:25:53 PM PDT by opus86
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To: DJ MacWoW
I half believe that...but only half...the rest wouldn't care even if they did know. Too many ..far too many... just accept the issues of this country based on however they're framed on MSM. They look no further.

I've been listening to news stations outside the US for over a year now....our country has stopped “reporting” news, rather we have to listen to the
“chatter” amongst themselves which of course then muddies any report.

Another thing...other nations news stations can show and report what our news never would...admittedly they will “select” what they report on..but at least you get a broader true picture. In the US it's all about the pundits getting face time...or competing for it. Frankly..I don't think there's much truth anywhere today....and what we should know his "Hidden"..just as you say.

35 posted on 04/05/2013 3:34:22 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
It's advocacy journalism. Did you see the article last year in Pravda "What's wrong with the American press?" LOL

I stand by believing that if parents actually had a true picture of homosexuality they'd flip out. We could start by being honest that life expectancy is 57 years and finish with the range of diseases.

36 posted on 04/05/2013 5:20:30 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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That limp-wristed idiot Donnelly is turning me into a full-blown bulimic.
37 posted on 04/05/2013 5:58:16 PM PDT by JoeDonnellymakesmepuke
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To: DJ MacWoW

No I didn’t see it DJ....I was off line for over a year and only recently back. I missed the whole election on FR!!!!


38 posted on 04/05/2013 6:28:41 PM PDT by caww
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To: ScottinVA

I like how gullible Republicans assume that just because a Democrat is conservative on ONE issue (like for Heitkamp and Landrieu, the Keystone pipeline) that suddenly they’re a “moderate” or “conservative”. No, it means they’re a liberal who happens to agree with us on one issue.


39 posted on 04/06/2013 2:04:39 PM PDT by RB156
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