Thomas Beatie (born Tracy Lehuanani Lagondino) speaks at his attorney's office in Phoenix.
Thomas Beatie, and his girlfriend Amber Nicholas, speak at their attorney's office, Tuesday, April 2, 2013, in Phoenix. Maricopa County Family Court Judge Douglas Gerlach ruled, March 29, 2013, that Arizona's ban on same-sex marriages prevents Thomas Beatie's 9-year union from being recognized as valid
Thomas Beatie, right, listens as attorney David Michael Cantor speaks Tuesday, April 2, 2013, in Phoenix.Beatie was born a woman and later underwent a double-mastectomy, and began testosterone hormone therapy and psychological treatment to become a man, but he retained female reproductive organs and gave birth to three children.
Soon God is going to step in and yell, “OK Everybody, Out of the Pool!”
posted on 04/05/2013 11:48:37 AM PDT
This article is soooo confusing!
When I read this "transgender former Honolulu man" I had to wonder whether this was "former man" living in Honolulu, or a "man" formerly living in Honolulu. On reading further, I discovered it was neither.
What Can You Say?
posted on 04/05/2013 12:11:17 PM PDT
by DJ MacWoW
(My faith and politics cannot be separated)
Oh, the diversity!
He / she will be Hillary's 2016 running mate. The historical, first whatever candidate.
posted on 04/05/2013 12:26:24 PM PDT
(Arguing with a marxist is like playing Chess with a Pigeon.)
I think it is time to address something that nobody in the media (or the idiotic sheep of the public) wants too-—
What is this invented term “transgender”? What is the definition? Not what it has become.
Humans are created with either two X chromosomes or an X Chromosome and a Y Chromosome. Period. Thats the way it works.
Transgender is a manmade excuse for people to self-identify with the opposite gender to what they are genetically. WE can debate till the cows come home - but how do you debate whether a person has a “Y Chromosome” or not? You don’t
posted on 04/05/2013 12:26:35 PM PDT
(Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
I don't really see a problem here and agree with the judge, at least in the result. Because the "he" was never a "he" -- DNA would show "he" was always a "she" -- therefore, there is no marriage to dissolve because "shes" can't marry "shes" (marriage is a religious ceremony and a "she" marrying a "she" would be invalid in the eyes of God). Now if they had some sort of civil ceremony, that might be different ... (See tagline)
posted on 04/05/2013 12:34:55 PM PDT
by Fast Moving Angel
(A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
Um, if you gave birth to the kids, you aren't their daddy. You're their mommy.
posted on 04/05/2013 12:39:00 PM PDT
(You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
Reminds me of the episode of South Park where Ms. Garrison discovers that she can’t get an abortion because even though she had a sex change operation, she can’t get pregnant. I think she then tries to grow a penis on a mouse but that was a long time ago and I stopped watching that show.
posted on 04/05/2013 12:45:37 PM PDT
(I'm loving this Pope)
there is no such thing as transgendered, but there is mutilated
posted on 04/05/2013 2:02:35 PM PDT
"Imagine what this is doing to my children," Beatie said as he held the hand of his girlfriend of one year. "In time, they are going to look back and see that a court said that's not your daddy. I'm sorry, that's who I am. I am my children's father."
And the children aren't going to look back and wonder about "daddy" being biologically a woman? Imagine that conversation: "Yes, children, daddy used to be like mommy but daddy had a little operation to be like a daddy but your daddy doesn't have those daddy parts because daddy decided to keep daddy's mommy parts."
posted on 04/05/2013 5:04:02 PM PDT
(Believers in VERY small government: Count Mountjoy/Benter in 2012!!!)
I don’t get it, why does ‘he’ want a divorce for an invalid marrage?
‘He’ certantly doesn’t need the State to stop enforcing that which the state is not enforcing...
Why doesn’t he just forget about it and move on...
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