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Attorney General Eric Holder: Jail time for blacks is too long
The Washington Times ^ | 4/5/2013

Posted on 04/05/2013 2:35:04 PM PDT by Altura Ct.

Attorney General Eric Holder expressed “concern” Thursday evening that black men are unfairly served with longer prison sentences than white men and that America’s prison system demands overhaul.

“Too many people go to too many prisons for far too long for no good law enforcement reason,” Mr. Holder said, in remarks to the Rev. Al Sharpton’s National Action Network in New York, Politico reported. “It is time to ask ourselves some fundamental questions about our criminal justice system. … It is time to examine our systems and determine what truly works.”

Mr. Holder said in the Politico report that state laws oftentimes require sentences that are too harsh for the specific case — and that “breed[s] disrespect” for the court system. He also referred to a report from the U.S. Sentencing Commission released in February and said figures show that blacks are being disproportionately prosecuted and sentenced.

“I am concerned by a troubling report … which indicates that — in recent years — black male offenders have received sentences that are nearly 20 percent longer than those imposed on white males convicted of similar crimes,” he said, Politico reported.

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To: Altura Ct.

The progressives want these felons back on the streets killing us to do their bidding.

The quicker they can kill us the sooner they can enact more gun law.


51 posted on 04/05/2013 3:56:17 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I predict the exact same Freepers will hate the GOP Candidate for: 2016,2020,2024,2028, 2032.)
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To: Salamander

Only if the election process is secure.


52 posted on 04/05/2013 3:57:02 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I predict the exact same Freepers will hate the GOP Candidate for: 2016,2020,2024,2028, 2032.)
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To: NoLibZone

Those were Obama’s words.


53 posted on 04/05/2013 4:13:17 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.....)
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To: Secret Agent Man
"Eric damn well knows that most blacks get longer sentences because they commit far more violent crimes and they are very often repeat offenders to violent crimes."

Back in the 80's when crack cocaine was first hitting the streets, Marxine Waters, Jesse Jackass and others of their ilk called it a scourge of the inner cities and demanded that penalties for dealing and possessing crack were jacked up higher than for like amounts of simple cocaine.

They got exactly what they asked for...the longer sentences for blacks merely reflect the fruits of their efforts.

54 posted on 04/05/2013 4:21:08 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

huh, i didn’t know they pushed for that. wonder why, if they thought blacks were using something else...?


55 posted on 04/05/2013 4:25:53 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Altura Ct.
Well...in an egalitarian society all must be equal...

/ S

56 posted on 04/05/2013 4:30:23 PM PDT by Popman (Godlessness is always the first step to the concentration camp.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
It was legislation by hysteria. During the Reagan administration blacktivists were trying to blame the proliferation ("epidemic")of crack in black communities on the CIA. IIRC, Waters and Farrakhan were the two leading proponents of this conspiracy theory. The conventional wisdom in the inner cities was that crack was being foisted on black communities by "the man," and in order to satiate their constituents they pushed the Anti-Drug Abuse Acts of 1986 and 1988 which set particularly draconian penalties for crack vs. those for powdered cocaine.
57 posted on 04/05/2013 4:39:27 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Hey, Eric, you affirmative action blockhead: if you don’t want them to do the time, tell them not to do the crime.

Or is that logic too difficult for you to follow?


58 posted on 04/05/2013 4:52:03 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Vendome

Exactly. And a lot depends on prior records. In North Carolina and I assume many other states, sentences are based on points. Score high - do more time. Holder/Obama, etc. really want a race war. I didn’t used to really believe it, but I’m beginning to. Another crisis to not let go to waste.


59 posted on 04/05/2013 4:53:48 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Altura Ct.
...that black men are unfairly served with longer prison sentences than white men...
Trying to impose leniency based on race is a dealbreaker.


60 posted on 04/05/2013 5:44:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Vendome

It also says nothing about PREVIOUS crimes that these defendants may have committed. If someone has a long record, they also tend to get longer sentences. Heather MacDonald writes about these issues in CityJournal.


61 posted on 04/05/2013 5:55:16 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: SeminoleCounty

From what I’ve heard, whites are getting longer sentences for drug crimes.


62 posted on 04/05/2013 5:57:41 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: SharpRightTurn

This is a case of cultural marxism blending with critical race theory. They understand perfectly well what their doing. Don’t ever think they’re stupid, they’re just ramping up the pressure and demonization of whites and seeing what ‘sticks’.


63 posted on 04/05/2013 6:02:28 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Altura Ct.

Gun grabbers want to go soft on criminals and punish law abiding gun owners. Got it.


64 posted on 04/05/2013 6:50:16 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Altura Ct.

>> “I am concerned by a troubling report … which indicates that — in recent years — black male offenders have received sentences that are nearly 20 percent longer than those imposed on white males convicted of similar crimes,”

One “troubling report” that “indicates”?

What about the numerous historical facts that prove Liberalism killed the Black family?


65 posted on 04/05/2013 8:40:09 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Altura Ct.
If Holder can make a statement like that, it would be only fair to ask what the rate of recidivism is for black offenders verses other ethnic groups. I'm thinking more repeat offenders, thus more prison time.
66 posted on 04/05/2013 9:46:03 PM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: Gil4

Don’t forget sentencing takes into account criminal history...not sure this “study” screenesd “similar” crimes to account for differeing criminal histories.


67 posted on 04/05/2013 10:11:01 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (It is going to be Foot to Ass combat on election day....my foot and a Rat's ass.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
. . . It is time to examine our systems and determine what truly works.”

It ain't rocket science. What would truly work is more black children being born to intact families with a mummy and daddy. Their poverty rates and crime rates under such circumstances are actually lower than white kids born under similar circumstances.

Maybe if blacks listened a lot more to leaders like Dr. Thomas Sowell and a lot less to leaders like Eric Holder, more of them could join that elite group.

Goes for white kids, too!

68 posted on 04/06/2013 4:19:55 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Altura Ct.

Sounds like eric the red is about to start releasing some of his people like the DHS released a bunch of illegals.

create a crisis. Exploit the crisis.
Don’t forget, obama has more flexibility.


69 posted on 04/06/2013 5:15:04 AM PDT by Texas resident
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To: Vigilanteman

I am trying to find a link to one of the studies to which I refer, but I have seen studies which showed that black males from two parent families of higher SES had higher crime rates, lower academic scores, and higher drop-out rates than white males from families of lower SES. One of the studies compared young black males in Prince George’s Co (black bourgeois bastion of well-to-do blacks, mostly government employees) with white males in West Virginia from poor families.

I have requested help in finding a link to one of the studies at another forum, as soon as I find one I will post it. (Thought I had bookmarked them, but can’t seem to find them in my disorganised jumbled folder).


70 posted on 04/06/2013 7:36:05 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Altura Ct.

Attorney General Eric Holder: Jail time for blacks is too long>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

BUT JAIL TIME IS NOT TOO LONG FOR WHITE PEOPLE!!


71 posted on 04/06/2013 10:47:04 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Bon mots
I second your photo re: Obama's sons! Here is a video capture from a cab of one about to shoot a NYC ( Bronx) cab driver:

Bronx Perp photo Untitled-1232332--525x415.jpg

72 posted on 04/06/2013 10:52:55 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Altura Ct.

Just another plot, concocted by the white man, to keep the black brother down...or not.


73 posted on 04/06/2013 12:04:45 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Doc Savage
Holder should be in jail FOREVER!

I'd be willing to entertain a trade: him for them.

74 posted on 04/06/2013 12:14:01 PM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: babyfreep

Feces sex accounts for it entirely.

HF


75 posted on 04/06/2013 12:40:37 PM PDT by holden (Alter or abolish it yet?)
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To: Altura Ct.
Honestly, Holder is probably right about this...blacks historically have less money and if you can only get a court appointed attorney, you can fagetaboutet.

That said, Holder is still wayyy to prejudiced to be in any office in the US.

76 posted on 04/06/2013 12:40:49 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Altura Ct.

That’s either true or it isn’t. If true, it should be fixed.

If not, then Holder is being Holder again. No surprise.


77 posted on 04/06/2013 12:43:57 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Altura Ct.

Blacks get additional time for the same crime because of their priors.


78 posted on 04/06/2013 12:56:11 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Candor7

Bloomberg was unavailable for comment ans the perp did not fit his MO.


79 posted on 04/06/2013 1:03:48 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Altura Ct.

“Wett mah peepoe go!!”


80 posted on 04/06/2013 1:06:13 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Happy to be represented by Lt. Col. Allen West)
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To: ilovesarah2012

If Holder is interested in getting the white prison population up a tad, how about indicting some of their pals like Corzine, Dimon, the entire board over at Goldman Sacks, The Federal reserve board of governors, those involved in gun running at ATF and higher, tax cheats like Gaitner and the rest of the dem contributors?


81 posted on 04/06/2013 1:07:31 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: dfwgator

“THANK GOD WE GOT PENITENTIARIES!”

Imagine the neighborhoods these people are being returned to as they’re set free; I know Newark NJ laid off hundreds of cops. What timing!


82 posted on 04/06/2013 1:43:03 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Altura Ct.

OK. Lengthen whitey’s sentences, too.


83 posted on 04/06/2013 1:49:27 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Altura Ct.
When Holder and Obama can control theirselves to the point that they are not breaking the law and when every minority infested Democratic city can control themselves and pay their own way, then I might listen to Holder.

Nope sorry, that is wrong I will never listen to Holder.

84 posted on 04/06/2013 2:00:25 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: ConservativeInPA

His people!


85 posted on 04/06/2013 2:42:02 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Altura Ct.

in 4 years those 2 will still be Red Fags


86 posted on 04/06/2013 2:42:07 PM PDT by devolve ( -- -- liberals secret fuel economy trick -- simply fill up your tires with propane --)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Every time I see a video of mobs robbing Walgreens I wonder how many crimes these thugs will commit until they actually land in prison.


87 posted on 04/06/2013 2:50:03 PM PDT by MNDude (I survived the sequester!)
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To: Gil4

Most likely more blacks are repeat offenders, and therefore, as a repeat offender get a longer sentence for a “similar crime.”


88 posted on 04/06/2013 3:50:44 PM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: Gil4

Perhaps blacks get harsher sentences because they are REPEAT OFFENDERS. Many times over.


89 posted on 04/06/2013 4:02:59 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Holder your not “conveniently” forgetting of the higher recidivism rates?

Black, 35 years and younger for any offense.

“For Prisoners released with selected characteristics:
76.1% were arrested for new crime within 3 years of release.
51.1% were adjudicated (or brought to court) for a new crime within 2 years.
25.2% were convicted for a new crime within one year.
10.7% were reincarcerated (i.e. placed in jail or prison) following a conviction on a new crime within 6 months.
31.8% were convicted of a new crime and placed in prison within 3 years.”

White, 35 years and younger for any offense.

For Prisoners released with selected characteristics:
67.3% were arrested for new crime within 3 years of release.
42.4% were adjudicated (or brought to court) for a new crime within 2 years.
22.1% were convicted for a new crime within one year.
7.8% were reincarcerated (i.e. placed in jail or prison) following a conviction on a new crime within 6 months.
25.3% were convicted of a new crime and placed in prison within 3 years.”

“All recidivism rates of prisoners with selected characteristics released in 1994 from prisons in 15 States”

Use the “Analysis” tabbed link to plug in your own select criteria from the FBI’s UCR data (1994) to generate custom tables and charts here.

http://bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=datool&surl=/recidivism/index.cfm#


90 posted on 04/06/2013 4:11:42 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Altura Ct.

Without racism, the communists wouldn’t have anything. I hate them more now than I did back during the days of the Cold War. This new batch are some lowlife, shifty bastards.


91 posted on 04/06/2013 4:22:24 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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92 posted on 04/06/2013 5:02:57 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Vendome

Mandatory minimum sentencing is one of the worse laws ever passed.

If it’s true that blacks’ sentences are 20% longer than whites guilty of the same crimes, then Holder is right.


93 posted on 04/06/2013 5:43:47 PM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To: Altura Ct.

That’s what happens when blacks commit murder at a rate of about 6 times that of the rest of the population.


94 posted on 04/06/2013 5:53:44 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Terry Mross; All

Between 1976-2005, per DOJ statistics, blacks comprised 12% of the population yet were responsible for 52.2% of all homicides committed.


95 posted on 04/06/2013 5:55:35 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Terry Mross

It got rid of childhood issues.

The reason blacks are in the system 20% longer is recidivism due to violation of parol.


96 posted on 04/06/2013 6:01:12 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Amberdawn
It also says nothing about PREVIOUS crimes that these defendants may have committed. If someone has a long record, they also tend to get longer sentences. Heather MacDonald writes about these issues in CityJournal.

Holder is lying by omission, but that's the kind of thing we've come to expect from him.

97 posted on 04/06/2013 7:06:08 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Chode

Let’s see, the number one killer of a young black male in America is another young black male. So Holder wants that young black male who killed another young black male out of jail early?

Yep makes perfect sense. He will get out of jail early only to go kill more young black males until he himself is killed—by another young black male.


98 posted on 04/06/2013 7:57:17 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Vendome

“The reason blacks are in the system 20% longer is recidivism due to violation of parol.”

So why do blacks violate parole more than whites/latinos?


99 posted on 04/06/2013 7:59:35 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana
now now, you can't expect logic from the illogical...
100 posted on 04/06/2013 8:08:01 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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