Skip to comments.US Secretly Deploys B-1 Strategic Bombers, E-6 "Doomsday" Planes Near North Korea
Posted on 04/05/2013 5:28:06 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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General James Mattoon Scott moving his pieces into place. I wish.
“You have to have a liberal in the White House to take out NK..”
How can you say that?
A conservative got us into WWI....oh, wait, it was a liberal
A conservative got us into WWII...oh, wait, it was a liberal
A conservative dropped the nukes on Japan, oh wait, liberal
A conservative got us into Vietnam.. oh wait, liberal
A conservative.......oh wait, a liberal
Well, we’re screwed!!!
A certain very close relative who worked very long on the B1 is always very irritated they do not get publicity or accolades. In fact, they are the workhorse of the bombers, doing most of the work. Just like the good ol’ F16 is really the workhorse of the fighters but gets not too much attention.
And I personally can also vouch for the effectiveness of the submarines. But each in its turn.
What he did right was politics, and that's why FDR & Truman both stuck with him and were stuck with him. I remember my Mom & Dad saying how relieved they were when Truman named Macarthur in 1950, the guy's arrogance was just so convincing. My uncle knew better because he'd actually served with the guy in the Philippines seven years earlier.
Everyone fawning over an arrogant narcissist who's screwing things up. Sound familiar?
We ain't droppin' no nukes on NORKO. Check ya map. It's right next to SOKO and we don't want to fry, or even singe our pals.
The best strategy here would be to drop pizza, ham sandwiches, and ice cream bars behind the NORKO lines. That should disrupt their attack!
Of course the immediate threat of self-destruction from within or total destruction from without is not yet on Obama’s shoulders and wont be until long after Obama himself is dead and buried. (they have yet to get thou plundering half the wealth of theses united States)
It would probably take Obama and Obama like fanatics a 100 years to reduce us to the dire state North Korea is now in after 50+ years of communist rule. If Obama's cult last that long then yes they be the same.
If were lucky the north Korean drama will be finally over. If were not Obama will just cave like Clinton did and he was doing(although apparently not enough for north Korea) and in anther 10 years we will have a nuclear armed North Korea with indisputable ability to hit us, and a nasty habit of selling theses weapons to 3rd party groups such a terrorist.
break their guns real bad!
We were stationed there in 1968 while the Viet Nam war was still going on. The entire island is only 30 miles long and 8 miles wide at its widest point! The Air Force base, Anderson AFB is on the northern point. I remember many trips by bus to the beach passing B52's all lined up, engines running and setting up to bomb the Viet Cong. I hear Guam is called the "poor man's Hawaii". Many fond memories, I'd hate to see it get hit.
As to Bones not carrying nukes, you are correct. But my understanding is the jet’s hard points used to attach nukes are still in place. It’s just that the bolt holes have been filled with epoxy to prevent attachment of nuke munitions. To change this, all you have to do is drill out the epoxy. Of course this would put the USA in violation of START, but the fact remains that Bones “could” be used to carry nukes if we really wanted to.
Any light attack or direct provocation(including “food propaganda”) will result in full artillery attack on the south. In 2010 they fired almost 200 shells at civilians after a SK shell supposedly landed in their water during training. Now imagine if we take action and still allow them the capability to retaliate.
If we wait, they will hold the world hostage with an orbiting nuke or bring something nasty across our border. The safest solution is to instantly carpet bomb the border region north of the DMZ without warning. Conventional bombs close to SK and nukes further away. Nukes only because I doubt we have enough conventional bombs to take care of it
We’re just buying time until the Muzzlim Bro’hood can be installed.....
“The best strategy here would be to drop pizza, ham sandwiches, and ice cream bars behind the NORKO lines.”
The Norks already thought of that. The people have been brainwashed to believe that anything that falls from the sky — even leaflets — has been poisoned and will kill them if they even touch it.
Or, we could drop Michelle to tell them to eat more greens and move about, or something like that.
You make their “first salvo”, their “last salvo”.
Nobody will be doing a Pre-Emptive Strike on NK, so those 50K people in Seoul are the real Walking Dead.
Oh Oh Un’s got a gun..somewhere Feinstein wants to know if that gun has high capacity magazines
I thought they were welded. But of course they could be drilled and tapped.
I love journalistic secrecy. I remember 1990-91 when my son was in Saudi Arabia with the 82nd, some idiot asked at a press briefing, “What Kuwait beach are you going to land on to begin the invasion?”
Don't know if that's true, but I don't believe even the little fat-Un would attack anyone. While they could destroy much of Seoul with their artillary, their generals know damn well that the Western world would come down on them with a rain of fire that they couldn't possibly survive.
Even Obambi would have to take such action, whether he wants to or not. It's all posturing by the Norks to get more concessions from the US and UN.
Nothing is going to happen from the child Un. Yes, his military is faithful (mostly for survival), but they know if they attack S. Korea or anyone else, they are history. I'm actually waiting for a military coup.
but he may have a convenient accident...the little chubby ronery godless puke.
I saw a video of the B-1 unloading 80plus some bombs in less than 3 seconds.....they can do some damage quick and avoid being detected, or at least move out of the way so fast to get out of danger...appears they drop quickly to ground level.
You misrepresent MacArthur’s plan for ending the war, give him no credit for Inchon, and give accolades to Mr. Stalemate-not-victory Ridgeway. Shouldn’t you be over at DU?
“The Giant Claw” - what a movie!
Is this part of the Obama legacy trip?
surely his generals know what is coming and they have the ability to take out the little runt?
Lol, too funny! The most decorated US solider in WW1, military governor of Phillippee (with Eisenhower as his aid), selected to be promoted to 6 stars and lead the US invasion of Japan. Only US general to ever hold the rank of Field Marshall (Korea). A general in WW1, and general in WW2 and a general in Korea. Three times nominated for the medal of honor. Yeah over rated my a$$. Check out MacAuthor causality rates, lowest of all senior commanders. He was one of this countrys' most brilliant generals. Oh and Truman was a jerk.
And he was right, but little to he realize that Truman would send the 7th fleet to secure the Chicom flank from possible attack by Khan-Ki-Check. Truman thus freed a large chuck of the Chicom army for duty in Korea. Had Truman not secured the enemy flank the enemy would not have been able in intervene in great force in Korea.
MacAuthor “problem” was that he was old school military, “God, country, honor”. “There is no substitute for victory.” If you like fighting wars without winning them then you are fans of Trumans and Ridgeways.
Ike had the standing and resolve to sell the bluff.
Obama will turn tail when the sabers start rattling too loudly.
The Norks are testing Obama and finding him weak.
I read a book about the pogram developed by curis lemay - crazy stuff.
Obama will get rolled here for sure. F him.
(Raised hand...) Question, what is all of this bluster designed to do re...CHINA and their effort to control the world? Just asking.
Let's not change the subject because neither my being a bad guy nor Ridgeway being wrong about later wars has anything to do with Macarthur disobeying orders during the conflict while he publicly and falsely alleged that strategic decisions made by his commanders was impossible. Say what you want about Ridgeway, he did what Macarthur said couldn't be done.
Like it or not, over the millennia most wars have ended in negotiations with or without decisive military action. Same with the US as the Revolutionary & 1812 wars dragged through talks long after combat lost its import. Civil War was different because open rebellion can never be tolerated, but since then (with the possible exception of WWII) the US has dealt with realities such as total war costs plus the need for a policy of containment.
And he was right, but little to he realize that Truman would send the 7th fleet to secure the Chicom flank...
It's really hard for me to believe Macarthur could possibly understand Chinese military abilities if he couldn't even follow US military strategy.
One of the unspoken Rules of Engineering: After the customer gets delivery, the most sincere compliment is dead silence.
(After that's said, on behalf of the rest of North American Rockwell's B-1 Bunch, pass a warm Thanks to your "close relative".)
North Korea is for some undetermined short term out of the missile business. There can be no more practice shots, even announced practice shots. They will be shot down.
Since no one really knows where the practice shots are really aimed, they will be justifiably shot down.
So, the norko missile jobs have been lost and unemployment grows. The law of unintended consequences prevails.
Un less, it was intended. The process ends the expense and saves face
Those of you knocking MacArthur for trying to win must be big fans of fighting not to win, yall must love wars like Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan because it all starting with Truman in Korea, MacArthur was fired because he was trying to win the war. He got tired of Trumans "rules of engagement" like telling him he could only bomb the southern half of the bridges over the Yalu river, and went public.
Painfully true. It took a long time for me to catch on in my engineering career after having worked my way through college playing guitar in band. Cheers to silence wasn't easy, although the pay sure got better...
Saddam Hussien, Osama bin Laden and Hugo Chavez are still dead...
“Would you like some more beans there Mr. Taggart?”
They can also carry a large number of JDAM and JSOW bombs, each of which can be set up to hit a different target. And I would imagine that we have a bunch of drones busily mapping where the NK bunkers and guns are.
Which provides an incentive to hit them first.