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Well, Great Lakes, It Was Nice Knowing You. Asian Carp Have Arrived.
Takepart.com ^ | 4-5-2013 | Takepart.com

Posted on 04/05/2013 9:03:43 PM PDT by haffast

Ever since Asian carp were accidentally introduced into U.S. rivers in the 1970s, the invasive fish have been hungrily making their way to the Great Lakes, causing residents of the watershed to dread the arrival of carp in delicate Lake ecosystems, and their potential impacts on the 7 billion dollar fishing industry that represents a major economic driver for the region.

Now, a new study suggests that Asian carp have breached southern Lake Michigan, although they have not yet arrived in numbers great enough to devastate native ecosystems.

Scientists at Notre Dame University, Southern Michigan University, and The Nature Conservancy spent two years searching for Asian carp by examining genetic material in the Lake and attempting to match DNA samples to two particularly damaging species of Asian carp, silver and bighead carp.

Out of 2,800 water samples, they found 58 positive links to bighead and silver carp in the Chicago Area Waterway System, which flows directly into Lake Michigan, along with six in western Lake Erie.

Questions remain about how many carp are already in the ecosystem—and how long it will take until the fish begin showing up in numbers large enough to cause serious harm.

“The most plausible explanation is still that there are some carp out there,” lead author Christopher Jerde of the University of Notre Dame told the AP. “We can be cautiously optimistic…that we’re not at the point where they’ll start reproducing, spreading further and doing serious damage.”

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“Our river fisheries are important but not valued in the billions of dollars,” Chapman told TakePart. “Whereas the Great Lakes fisheries are hugely economically important. If you cause any perturbations in fisheries like Lake Eerie’s walleye and yellow perch fisheries, that could be hugely problematic.”

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To: happyathome

Based on your post #17 and my #19, I think Alison Fairbrother needs to work on “attention to details.”

Two fictitious schools in one paragraph.


21 posted on 04/06/2013 3:36:25 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Little Pig
I wonder how well that carp will do once those big Northern Pikes get at them.

As small fry, they're going to be a great food source for the walleye, lake trout, salmon and bass too........

22 posted on 04/06/2013 3:41:33 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: VRWCarea51
we should be allowed to shoot them out of boats with shotguns.

Gotta use steel shot, the lead shot pollutes the lakes........LOL!

23 posted on 04/06/2013 3:44:00 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: haffast

24 posted on 04/06/2013 3:44:20 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Got anything for Cicadas?


25 posted on 04/06/2013 4:01:29 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (The AR-15 is the Honda Civic of rifles ®)
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To: haffast
A company in Illinois makes fertilizer out of the Asian carp. Check out Schafer Fisheries in Thompson Ill. I am trying it out on the farm his year. Organic 100%.

It is liquid and smells like grandma before she showers but you get used to it.

It feeds soil microbes that tend to the roots and helps break down the fertilizers into usable forms for the plants.

26 posted on 04/06/2013 4:12:58 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (where the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: haffast

The Illegal Invasion Continues!


27 posted on 04/06/2013 6:12:25 AM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: haffast

The Great Lakes are also subject to massive algae blooms that destroy oxygen needed by all fish.

The asian carp are a CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER to the fish populations in the Great Lakes, and every effort should be made to eradicate these destructive fish.


28 posted on 04/06/2013 6:39:28 AM PDT by mohresearcher
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To: Yardstick

No photoshop, those are real Sheepshead teeth.


29 posted on 04/06/2013 8:39:18 AM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: VRWCarea51

“My personal opinion is we should be allowed to shoot them out of boats with shotguns.”

Sporting Carps. :-)


30 posted on 04/06/2013 9:25:13 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
As usual, lots of stupidity with no real answers.

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31 posted on 04/06/2013 12:17:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: alexander_busek

“I find the phrase “invasive species” racist, “specist,” and judgmental.”

May I suggest, “Undocumented carp”?


32 posted on 04/06/2013 12:21:38 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: montanajoe

Its certainly not funny if you make your living off the great lakes sportfishing industry which is worth between 7 and 10 billion per year in Michigan alone.

It would have been so much easier to just shut down the Chicago sewage canal but Obama stepped in on behalf of his Chicago buddies (plus appointed 2 separate czars to not deal with the same issue)


33 posted on 04/06/2013 12:24:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: happyathome

Never heard that. Just called it “Cooper Street.”


34 posted on 04/06/2013 12:28:49 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: haffast; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...
To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.

Canada Ping!

35 posted on 04/06/2013 12:29:54 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: haffast

I wouldn’t say goodbye to the great lakes exactly but its going to cost taxpayers millions per year to control the carp like it does to control the sea lampreys.


36 posted on 04/06/2013 12:42:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Never heard that. Just called it “Cooper Street.”

That's the local name.
37 posted on 04/06/2013 12:43:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: haffast

Asian(silver) carp are a problem but I have a question. Where the Hellis Southern Michigan University? I’ve never heard of that. Northern, Central, and Eastern, yes.


38 posted on 04/06/2013 1:05:45 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: haffast
If you cause any perturbations in fisheries like Lake Erie’s walleye and yellow perch fisheries, that could be hugely problematic.”

A bit tangential, but note how the recovery of the "dead" Lake Erie is taken for granted by this statement. In the 1970's environmental wackoes were saying that the only fish left were weird mutants who could live on toxic waste. So much for "science" liberal style.

39 posted on 04/06/2013 1:48:50 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Kenny Bunk
The sheephead is also known as freshwater drum, and colloquially as the "sewer inspector" because they can be found around warm water outlets along the shoreline. Bottom feeders, iow, and yes they love to eat mussels and the like. Nature restores the balance.
40 posted on 04/06/2013 1:52:51 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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