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Mayor targets drinking, gambling and urinating on the public way (bad 'social fabric' in Chicago)
Sun-Times ^ | 4/04/13 | FRAN SPIELMAN

Posted on 04/06/2013 3:59:45 AM PDT by Libloather

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They’re also crimes with the highest rates of default, with 50 to 70 percent of all offenders ignoring the fine and blowing off administrative hearings.

That could change, thanks to a mayoral crackdown advanced Thursday.

The City Council’s Public Safety committee approved Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s plan to add six months of jail time and double the maximum fine — to $1,000 for drinking and urinating on the public way and $400 for gambling — for violators who fail to pay their initial fines and are no-shows at administrative hearings.

Similar penalties are already in place for offenders who ignore their marijuana tickets.

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: chicago; drinking; gambling; illinois
They're gonna need bigger jails.
1 posted on 04/06/2013 3:59:45 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
"They're gonna need bigger jails."

Cheaper and easier to just build a wall around the entire city.

2 posted on 04/06/2013 4:03:08 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Libloather

Caning would be a far better deterrent and cheaper.


3 posted on 04/06/2013 4:05:18 AM PDT by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: Libloather

Bad social fabric they created, so what are these liberal democratic victims suppose to do for entertainment?


4 posted on 04/06/2013 4:09:43 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Libloather

Great Society. /s


5 posted on 04/06/2013 4:34:00 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Fzob

> Caning would be a far better deterrent and cheaper.

Well the reality is Asian people do seem better disciplined and more behaved for some reason...lol


6 posted on 04/06/2013 4:36:42 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Libloather

Guess he’s solved that murdering on the public way.


7 posted on 04/06/2013 4:38:03 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Libloather
So, is the ballerina gonna deduct the fines from the balance on the miscreants EBT card, or from the lottery winnings?

LOL, revenue officers going after the bums.

8 posted on 04/06/2013 4:54:50 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

The children of LBJ...


9 posted on 04/06/2013 5:15:34 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Great Society.

You're darned tootin', rawcatslyentist! That's one more reason I'm glad America won the famous "War on Poverty." When is the big victory parade, by the way?

10 posted on 04/06/2013 5:21:46 AM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Libloather

But- it’s the “Chicago way”...


11 posted on 04/06/2013 5:24:50 AM PDT by mikrofon ("Drinking, gambling and urinating in public is no way to go through life, son.")
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To: Libloather
I guess Rahm solved their murder problem, right?

5.56mm

12 posted on 04/06/2013 5:27:49 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Libloather

Oh yes, this is Chicago’s real problem. Pissing and gambling.


13 posted on 04/06/2013 5:27:53 AM PDT by novascotianative
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To: Standing Wolf
In 2009, the Inauguration of President Obama.

Did you miss it?

14 posted on 04/06/2013 5:28:41 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Demarica: Land of the need, home of the slave!)
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To: Libloather

I was once driving in Chicago, got off the expressway, and while waiting in a line of cars for the light to change the guy in front of me got out of his car, unzipped, and urinated on his front tire. There must have been 15 cars in line. He was as nonchalant as possible. Got back in his car and drove off when the light changed.


15 posted on 04/06/2013 5:46:42 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: John W

I suspect is is the “broken windows” model that Giuliani and Bratton used in the nineties to bring down the crime rate in New York. Idea being (I think — it’s been about fifteen years since criminology class) that those who commit “minor offenses” are more likely to commit major ones. I believe there was some thought also that these could be used as leverage to get them to talk about other no-goodnik friends of theirs, and that if the police can’t find your neighbor when they come to serve him with a warrant, you might get irritated seeing them three or four times ina day and mention where he could be found.


16 posted on 04/06/2013 5:59:33 AM PDT by pleasedontzotme
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To: pleasedontzotme
...that those who commit “minor offenses” are more likely to commit major ones...

Never took a criminology class, but imo that is close...but not quite right. I think it was more a case of those who commit major crimes commit lesser offenses without a thought. People who have no regard for the law have no regard for ANY law. Instead of just issuing summonses to the "turnstile jumpers", the cops started verifying their identities. If that couldn't be done on the spot, they would be brought in. Solved a lot of older crimes and caught a lot of bail jumpers and parole violators.

17 posted on 04/06/2013 6:45:55 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Roccus

Rahm probably can’t do it that way or many of their voters would be incarcerated.


18 posted on 04/06/2013 6:52:07 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: ronnie raygun
Bad social fabric they created, so what are these liberal democratic victims suppose to do for entertainment?

Shoot each other.

19 posted on 04/06/2013 6:53:05 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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To: Libloather
Mayor targets drinking, gambling and urinating on the public way (bad 'social fabric' in Chicago)

Terrible!

But that BOB murder wave....now that's something to be proud of.

20 posted on 04/06/2013 7:07:06 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Is the penalty larger if you are doing all three acts (drinking, gambling and urinating) simultaneously? Enquiring minds want to know.


21 posted on 04/06/2013 7:23:39 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Libloather

Screw him. I hope one day he has to use virtually the entire police force to protect his pansy Tutu ass just to keep him alive as he ‘faithfully’ executes his job as Lord High Mayor of Corruptville.


22 posted on 04/06/2013 7:24:10 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Libloather.
...Emanuel’s plan to add six months of jail time and double the maximum fine -- to $1,000 for drinking and urinating on the public way and $400 for gambling -- for violators who fail to pay their initial fines and are no-shows at administrative hearings. Similar penalties are already in place for offenders who ignore their marijuana tickets.
IOW, police officers will stop writing tickets and/or making arrests for these violations. Problem solved.


23 posted on 04/06/2013 8:49:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Libloather

If mayor Rahm Emanuel has a problem with drinking, gambling and urinating on the public way, then he should stop doing it.


24 posted on 04/06/2013 9:29:47 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Libloather

Chicago is a jail.


25 posted on 04/06/2013 9:40:31 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Standing Wolf

Right after everyone sobers up from the war on drugs parade.


26 posted on 04/06/2013 11:55:01 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Roccus

Right. That’s what I was trying to say all along, but I wrote it this morning when I was not feeling particular well and was kind of feverish.

When I worked as a prosecutor in municipal court, it was brought home to me how some people just don’t think about the rules and lines of authors that most of us do.

Thanks for saying in a few sentences what I couldn’t in a paragraph! :)


27 posted on 04/06/2013 11:55:32 AM PDT by pleasedontzotme
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To: Libloather
Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s plan to add six months of jail time and double the maximum fine — to $1,000 for drinking and urinating on the public way

Shakedown racket. When I passed through Chicago in 2007, they had highway signs posted that there is a $10,000 fine for hitting a highway worker. That would not prevent any further legal action or lawsuit.

Where does all the money go?

28 posted on 04/07/2013 3:55:44 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Libloather

My father-in-law, while stationed in England during WWII, pulled his Jeep over to relieve himself. Got a ticket for “Urinating on the King’s Highway”.

Sounds like something Robin Hood would do. Wish we had a copy of it.


29 posted on 04/07/2013 3:58:07 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Libloather

Rahm Emanuel’s plan to add six months of jail time and double the maximum fine..

****

But Eric Holder just said that his people serve longer sentences for crimes so this won’t fly in their hoods.


30 posted on 04/07/2013 4:09:39 PM PDT by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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