Skip to comments.Defense Department classifies Catholics, evangelicals as extremists
Posted on 04/06/2013 4:40:05 AM PDT by markomalley
The Defense Department came under fire Thursday for a U.S. Army Reserve presentation that classified Catholics and Evangelical Protestants as extremist religious groups alongside al Qaeda and the Ku Klux Klan.
The presentation detailed a number of extremist threats within the U.S. military, including white supremacist groups, street gangs, and religious sects.
The presentation identified seventeen religious organizations in a slide titled religious extremism. They include al Qaeda, Hamas, the Filipino separatist group Abu Sayyaf, and the Ku Klux Klan, which the slide identifies as a Christian organization.
Religious extremism is not limited to any single religion, ethnic group, or region of the world, the slide explains, in language that closely resembles the text of a Wikipedia page on extremism.
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The slide deck is here. The slide in question:
The accompanying narrative with that slide states:
Extremism is a complex phenomenon; it is defined as beliefs, attitudes, feelings, actions, or strategies of a character far removed from the "ordinary." Because "ordinary" is subjective, no religious group would label itself extreme or its doctrine "extremism." However, religious extremism is not limited to any single religion, ethnic group, or region of the world; every religion has some followers that believe their beliefs, customes and traditions are the only "right way" and that all others are practicing their faith the "wrong way," seeing and believing that their faith/religion superior to all others.
The Archdiocese of the Military Services had the following press release:
The Archdiocese for the Military Services and Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty recently became aware of a U.S. Army Reserve Equal Opportunity training brief that expressly listed Catholicism, Evangelical Christianity and other religious groups as examples of religious extremism alongside groups such as Al Qaeda, Hamas and the KKK.
The Archdiocese is astounded that Catholics were listed alongside groups that are, by their very mission and nature, violent and extremist.
According to an investigation and reply from the Army Chief of Chaplains office, the training in question appears to have been an isolated incident not condoned by the Department of the Army. The Archdiocese and the Chaplain Alliance explained that the Army can and should take steps to prevent such incidents in the future.
The Archdiocese calls upon the Department of Defense to review these materials and to ensure that tax-payer funds are never again used to present blatantly anti-religious material to the men and women in uniform.
The Obama Admin continues to nudge. Remember the 2009 Right Wing Extremism report put out by DHS? When that got exposed, they retracted that one, as well (it was "unauthorized").
Absolutely disgraceful. But what do you expect with Obama in there.
And I declare our current government as an enemy of its own citizens. So there...lol
I doubt these slides were prepared by military officers. I’d suspect they came out of Executive Branch offices from Obama political civilians, or contractors the White House picked to produce lying propaganda as a political payback favor. It would be good if one could get a copy of the original PowerPoint and inspect the file properties.
From FR yesterday:
Army Labeled Evangelicals as Religious Extremists
Friday, April 05, 2013 8:05:27 PM · 18 of 28
Albion Wilde to ilovesarah2012
From the article:
Army spokesman George Wright told Fox News that this was an isolated incident not condoned by the Dept. of the Army... and certainly does not reflect our policy or doctrine, he said. It was produced by an individual without anyone in the chain of commands knowledge or permission.... In the notes it was clearly stated that the presenter was not a subject matter expert, and produced the material after conducting Internet research, Wright said.
So if the presenter was not an expert, what were they doing presenting the material, Crews asked.
He said...she told him that she got her information from the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Remember the 2009 DHS report? (link in the OP above). This is not the first time such a thing has happened.
They need extremist spell-check. MORMAN? C’mon. When we have a radical left-wing regime, who is surprised that traditional American institutions are under attack, and bringing Islamists into the mainstream? We have enemies, both foreign and domestic, ingrained into the current Feral gubmint. Speaking out against the regime is now viewed as bordering on treason.
And it won’t be the last. Soon they’ll be confiscating our Bibles along with our guns. Can’t have bitter clingers.
They are products of a UFT education...illiterate, biased, ignorant, and best of all, evil.
just reporting such trash is not enough - an investigation is in order to determine who ordered this training material produced, who did produce it, and for what reason. And - publicize the results.
They spelled Mormon wrong...
Here is what I take from this based on my years as a chaplain:
a briefing with an Army Reserve unit based in Pennsylvania,
The incident occurred during an Army Reserve Equal Opportunity training brief on extremism.
This was an isolated incident not condoned by the Dept. of the Army, he said.
This slide was not produced by the Army and certainly does not reflect our policy or doctrine, he said. It was produced by an individual without anyone in the chain of commands knowledge or permission.
Wright said after the complaint was lodged, the presenter deleted the slide, and apologized.
Knowing these things, there was a RESERVE unit that had a training. Routinely, units will task a young troop to do a briefing as a means of growing. My guess is this was put together by a corporal, a buck sergeant, or a butterbar lieutenant. They got their info off the internet and presented it as a class to fulfill a requirement for equal opportunity training during one of their training sessions during the year.
So, Im willing to give the Army the benefit of the doubt on this one. The soldier, though, has been thoroughly indoctrinated by the culture considering he didnt realize the propaganda he was spewing and is an example to us of the brainwashing taking place in our culture of our young.
I could have guessed that they came from the SPLC. They supposedly were behind the Missouri MIAC report too that had vets as a threat.. The real threat is how a private organization with its own ethnic centric agenda has influence with government and LE.
a thorough investigation is in order:
1. who ordered the material produced
2. who actually produced it
3. what is the background of these people
4. what was the stated justification for such
5. what was the desired result
ping ( no surprise).
I do wonder how connected the SLPC has become to the Obama administration. Hmmm...
This is exactly the point.
While I agree that this is likely the product of a young NCO tasked with doing up the briefing, the part that troubles me is that the SPLC is identified as an unimpeachable source for EEO information by the government. The FDA uses SPLC material without further inquiry in their EEO training (publicized heavily about a year ago), the DOD does (I would bet that this young NCO had that identified as a source he should go to), as well as the DHS.
In the eyes of the SPLC, if you are not a pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, pro-Øbama (but I repeat myself) activist, you are a right-wing extremist.
They are “poking the bear” in hopes someone in utter frustration will do something stupid. Then they will say, see we were right and begin the next round of gun grabbing.
Note there is no more Al-Qaeda on list.
Probably on ‘Allied organizations’ chapter now.
From the SPLC page:
Help Us Fight Harmful Propaganda About LGBT People in Our Schools
The Establishment Clause of the U.S. Constitution was enacted in order to prevent this country becoming a theocracy, as were most countries of Europe at the time, where Kings reigned by the grace of God. The Founding Fathers, in whose memories of the vicious religious wars of scant generations past were still a powerful and terrible memory, created the Establishment Clause to forestall just such terrible religious inspired strife in this country.
First they attacked our 2nd amendment rights...now the first....didn’t see this coming. ////sarc
See, they are good for something.
I for one appreciate the government’s candor in this matter; practicing Catholics have no business supporting the government or its policies.
Here in NJ the state has successfully gutted our Catholic education and healthcare system.
The point was simply that extremists can exist in ANY group, which is a true statement.
Don't think there are extremist evangelicals? obviously you haven't been watching the news about that church that pickets funerals.
My guess is that someone tasked with a presentation simply accepted this at face value.
But it could come from the top down. Obama would agree with the demonization of Catholics, etc. But he might be displeased by the labeling of Mohammedan groups as extremists.
Holy f****n s**t.
Turns out I'm a religious extremist.
After reading “conducting Internet research” and before getting to the end of your post, I thought: Bet it was the SPLC.
Given the kind of people in the highest ranks these days, I would say Christians are very much a threat to what they represent.
You hear Southern Poverty Law Center and think it’s a nice conservative group concerned about poverty in the south. It is nothing more than a bunch of self-righteous liberals out to destroy America. You should check out their website.
These groups of their idea of extremists:
Family Research Council
The Family Research Council (FRC) bills itself as the leading voice for the family in our nations halls of power, but its real specialty is defaming gays and lesbians.
American Family Association
The American Family Association (AFA) says it promotes “traditional moral values” in media. A large part of that work involves “combating the homosexual agenda” through various means, including publicizing companies that have pro-gay policies and organizing boycotts against them.
Hutteree? Aren’t they kinda like the Amish?
Correcting the Headline:
Obama Defense Department classifies Catholics, evangelicals as extremists
That’s what the headline SHOULD be.
Obviously YOU haven't been watching thread after thread on Free Republic which shows that Westboro Baptist Church is NOT a church, rather it is a protest group, funded by the DNC, with ties to Al Gore.
And as a point of fact you can even find extremism in the KKK. Who would have suspected that? /s
What are the NOI, NBP, MBH and those groups classified as? Freedom Fighters for the DHS???????????? They like to castigate caucasion conservative groups.
From the slide narrative: …every religion has some followers that believe their beliefs, customes and traditions are the only "right way" and that all others are practicing their faith the "wrong way," seeing and believing that their faith/religion superior to all others.
I think that is the definition of a "believer."
I guess the only acceptable religious beliefs from anybody are no real religious beliefs at all. Sunday morning social club...
The Westboro “Baptist” “Church” (the ones who picket the servicemen’s funerals) are NOT Evangelicals. They are what can be called a “False Flag Operation”. Mostly related and inbred, this is a group that has been seen hobnobbing with Al Gore, and fundraising for democrat causes. By giving themselves the title of “Baptist” in their name, they immediately invoke reactions such as yours. It’s entirely natural and understandable, and many people get caught by that “Baptist Church” thingy.
... U.S. Army Reserve presentation that classified Catholics and Evangelical Protestants as extremist religious groups alongside al Qaeda and the Ku Klux Klan... identified seventeen religious organizations in a slide titled religious extremism. They include al Qaeda, Hamas, the Filipino separatist group Abu Sayyaf, and the Ku Klux Klan, which the slide identifies as a Christian organization.
My conclusion is, it was a female 2nd Lt, and I'll tell you why:
The extra duty position of Equal Opportunity Officer exists in every major command, mandated by political correctness and command emphasis from "echelons above reality". In every unit I was assigned to over 26 years, the EO Officer has been 2nd or 1st Lt, and has been black, female, or both, either of which always had an axe to grind.
The only exception to that rule was in my very last unit. The EO Officer was a female O-2 of Asian extraction, with a personal crusade. The Brigade Commander vented his fury during the EO brief, NOT because of the "we-must-be-fair-to-all" doctrine, but because any EO complaints would affect his OER. Follow the money.
Given the fact that the "fairness crusader" in this incident got the data from SPLC, with their recent publishing of over 1,200 groups considered extremists (most of them bring Tea Party and patriot groups), it's not a stretch to realize the extent to which Americans are being targeted.
Any officer, commissioned or not, who believes this tripe and passes onto those under his command should be drummed out with a DD. The oath is to support and defend the constitution...he has violated the most basic point of that oath, amendment one, freedom of church and perhaps assembly.
It’s actually good for the Body of Christ when the government turns against them.
I believe that you have nailed it. They got the information from the SPLC. This is one of every company commander's nightmares.
A hip-pocket EO brief? That’s....kind of odd. Usually those things come from on high out of the PC Ring of the Pentagon or the seventh sub-level of hell in HRC.
Mark, I just went through the entire presentation.
The overwhelming majority of the presentation is anti-white/Christian; the inclusion of any non-white/non-Christian group is either an afterthought, or smoke to give the impression of “balance”.
It’s as if all the presenter did was download SPLC’s hard drives.