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Defense Department classifies Catholics, evangelicals as extremists
The Washington Times ^ | 4/5/2013 | Lachlan Markay

Posted on 04/06/2013 4:40:05 AM PDT by markomalley

The Defense Department came under fire Thursday for a U.S. Army Reserve presentation that classified Catholics and Evangelical Protestants as “extremist” religious groups alongside al Qaeda and the Ku Klux Klan.

The presentation detailed a number of extremist threats within the U.S. military, including white supremacist groups, street gangs, and religious sects.

The presentation identified seventeen religious organizations in a slide titled “religious extremism.” They include al Qaeda, Hamas, the Filipino separatist group Abu Sayyaf, and the Ku Klux Klan, which the slide identifies as a Christian organization.

“Religious extremism is not limited to any single religion, ethnic group, or region of the world,” the slide explains, in language that closely resembles the text of a Wikipedia page on “extremism.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: abusayyaf; alqaeda; catholic; hamas; kukluxklan; notbreakingnews; splc; waronchrist
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To: markomalley
Extremists Now!


61 posted on 04/06/2013 7:13:54 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: markomalley

My bet is that the author was gay.


62 posted on 04/06/2013 7:19:07 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Klu Klux Klan (U.S./Christian Democrat)

"Grand Kleagle" Democrat Senator Robert Byrd

63 posted on 04/06/2013 7:28:00 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: markomalley

It would be enlightening to see a picture and be given the name of the individual creating and presenting the subject “information” piece.


64 posted on 04/06/2013 7:29:29 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: markomalley

Even Jews are listed there also.


65 posted on 04/06/2013 7:33:08 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

It might be Lt. Col. Timothy Challans and Major Brian Stuckert.


66 posted on 04/06/2013 7:37:39 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: markomalley

Let’s see the slide from 2005.


67 posted on 04/06/2013 7:38:52 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: markomalley
Catholics, evangelicals as extremists... wow that's something.
68 posted on 04/06/2013 7:40:20 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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To: markomalley
Maybe it's payback for the Catholic Church not coming on board to support the Obama administration's gay agenda. This could be preparation for barring anyone from serving as a military chaplain who doesn't approve of same-sex marriage and the rest of the agenda.

Since when is Islamophobia a religion? It's PC term to demean anyone who doesn't agree with the officially-approved opinions about Islam.

Why is the Muslim Brotherhood on the list? I though Obama liked the Muslim Brotherhood.

69 posted on 04/06/2013 7:43:26 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Future Snake Eater; xzins
For whatever it's worth, speaking as someone who has attended a fair number of EO presentations, who has been informally involved in “vetting” some EO presentations in the past, and whose wife spoke at an EO presentation, XZin’s explanation makes sense to me.

At least some of these presentations **DO** get prepared at a local level. I know because I've seen it — though from my experience, I've seen them get prepared by senior NCOs close to retirement who have been selected because they can “speak their minds” without worrying about career reprisals, or more rarely by mid-level officers, typically captains or majors.

I've seen good presentations and bad ones. Some really good ones included a briefing by a Japanese American World War II vet who was so angry at Japan after Pearl Harbor that he ended up making the US Army his career, and a speech by a retired black senior officer, a Vietnam vet, who talked about how he was so angry with the perception that “black soldiers won't fight” during the Vietnam War that he made a point of being the toughest soldier he could be during multiple tours in Vietnam so people wouldn't be able to say bad things about “black cowards” in uniform.

And then there have been some others which were a lot worse.

Yes, there are a lot of brainwashed idiots in America and some of them join the military. But I hope one lesson that the “politically correct crowd” takes out of this incident is that when they do bad things, they have a whole audience of uniformed people watching who may sit quietly and listen politely and then get copies and distribute them.

My personal view is that I've seen far less real racism in and around military installations than in the civilian world. That's a good thing for the military — having objective standards for performance and a culture of personal and group discipline is much easier to implement in the military than in many civilian career fields.

If people can accept the principle that the only colors which matter are “red, white, and blue,” I'm fine with that.

70 posted on 04/06/2013 7:55:31 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: markomalley

Is this how they will get the military to enforce their agenda? Just label us as extremists, weapons dealers, or druggies and it dehumanizes the target enough to allow abuse.


71 posted on 04/06/2013 7:57:47 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

“And it won’t be the last. Soon they’ll be confiscating our Bibles along with our guns. Can’t have bitter clingers.”

Yes, Christians are the new Juden.

I wonder how many Christians are physically and spiritually prepared to go Warsaw ghetto at the next gun grab?

Lexington-Concord and Waco both started with a gun grab.


72 posted on 04/06/2013 8:00:28 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Old Sarge
In every unit I was assigned to over 26 years, the EO Officer has been 2nd or 1st Lt, and has been black, female, or both, either of which always had an axe to grind.

Good morning Old Sarge. I almost thought I had written that reply, but hadn't even clicked on the thread. You hit the nail on the head with the last part of that sentence.

73 posted on 04/06/2013 8:11:16 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (For Jay Carney - I heard your birth certificate is an apology from the condom factory.)
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To: xzins

Have you noticed that some people are not listening to you? This is happening more frequently on FR, someone who is really an expert and knows what they are talking about posts a comment that debunks some particular line of nonsense. The result is usually either an immediate ad hominem attack or they pretend that you do not exist. Most of these people never read the article, they just pounce on the headline. I fondly remember the days when we recognized folks who knew what they were talking about, read what they had to say, and learned from it. Not much of that going on these days.


74 posted on 04/06/2013 8:18:37 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

Exactly. And that’s how the same multiple-times-debunked tripe will continue to raise its ugly head on FR for ages.

The DHS ammo purchase threads are a great example.


75 posted on 04/06/2013 8:21:05 AM PDT by Domalais
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To: markomalley
Liberal elites are becoming frantic.

They know the jig's just about up.... Too many people have caught on to who and what they really are... It's like before 'global warming' started to crash and burn - they started putting out more and more frantic warnings. Each more bizarre than the one before... and that's what's happening here.

Liberal elites are losing their grip on culture lies and they're starting to panic.

76 posted on 04/06/2013 8:23:56 AM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: Domalais

Another one of these gophers just popped up out of its hole, along with some vanity about ammo that mentions 1.6 billion rounds. I wonder when it will hit 2 billion?


77 posted on 04/06/2013 8:30:34 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Old Sarge
The overwhelming majority of the presentation is anti-white/Christian; the inclusion of any non-white/non-Christian group is either an afterthought, or smoke to give the impression of “balance”. It’s as if all the presenter did was download SPLC’s hard drives.

The SPLC created the concept and name for the 'vast right wing conspiracy' - a political scam for the Clinton war room - a package of lies about white middle-class Christians.

The SPLC and Clinton War room staff never had to prove the lies against middle class Christians because it was a whisper campaign. If Hillary hasn't spilled the beans prematurely that totalitarian move might have worked. It was being peddled to top cops in the country at the time (cops who were FBI trained as city contract people). I suspect the core of liberal elite thug power comes from the SPLC. A group that once had an ethical purpose but has been corrupted... Where is the Washington Post - where is FoxNews or the New York Times?

78 posted on 04/06/2013 8:37:12 AM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: markomalley

Colo. undersheriff warns: State police, Homeland Security to target Christians

http://www.examiner.com/article/colo-undersheriff-warns-state-police-homeland-security-to-target-christians


79 posted on 04/06/2013 8:39:40 AM PDT by dragonblustar (2 Peter 3:18)
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To: darrellmaurina; xzins
Yeah, it looks like xzins is right in his assessment. Whoever gave this briefing (certainly his supervisor) had a "come-to-Gaia" conversation with higher after this debacle.

I know because I've seen it — though from my experience, I've seen them get prepared by senior NCOs close to retirement who have been selected because they can “speak their minds” without worrying about career reprisals, or more rarely by mid-level officers, typically captains or majors.

Now that I'm up at the strategic level Army, we have dedicated people for this task of briefing and generally handling EO stuff. Seems like a GROSS waste of manpower to me, but the Army doesn't give a s**t what I think anyway. In my Infantry days, it was usually the most un-PC NCO we had who got tasked to be the company EO rep--it was practically a joke, but a joke that had to be taken seriously regardless, which made it even more head-shaking in its incongruity.

If people can accept the principle that the only colors which matter are “red, white, and blue,” I'm fine with that.

I wish that was so, but it isn't. PC has its hooks in the military (especially the Army) good and deep. It's all small groups of special interests and skin colors and (now) sexual orientations.

I once held to the idea that we were all green, but I've seen first-hand how that is NOT the case. Hell, I had a (black, female, VERY entitled) major in my ROTC program outright say that's not the case.

80 posted on 04/06/2013 8:41:38 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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