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Officials: 'Anti-government' couple may be at sea with kidnapped children
NBC News ^ | April 6, 2013 | Ian Johnston and Matthew DeLuca

Posted on 04/06/2013 6:40:38 AM PDT by Gorilla44

An “anti-government” man alleged to have kidnapped his two young sons from their grandmother’s house may be trying to escape in a sailboat, according to officials.

Police say that Joshua Hakken, 35, apparently broke into his mother-in-law’s Tampa home after 6 a.m. on Wednesday, tied up his mother-in-law and then fled with the boys, Cole, 4, and Chase, 2.

The Florida Department of Law Enforcement said that Joshua Hakken and his wife Sharyn, 34, may be traveling together in a 25-foot, 1972 Morgan sailboat, NBCMiami.com reported Friday.

The vessel is blue and has the name “salty” with a picture of a paw near the back of the hull on each side. It has a white sail with blue trim and its registration number is FL3717BK, the FDLE added.

Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office told NBC station WLFA.com that Hakken had recently bought the boat.

Deputies told the station a witness saw the boat going under the Johns Pass bridge a couple of hours after the abduction Wednesday.

"We've said all along, making irrational decisions doesn't always make you unintelligent. We know he's a very intelligent individual. He's an engineer," Hillsborough County Sheriffs spokesperson, Larry McKinnon, told WFLA.com.

(Excerpt) Read more at usnews.nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: chasehakken; colehakken; dopeheadsonfr; florida; hakken; joshuahakken; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; sharynhakken
I love how the are using the term "anti-government" as if it's bad thing. Every article out there on this couple uses the same term. A previous article says the couple lost custody of their kids after a drug possession charge in LA. Really?
1 posted on 04/06/2013 6:40:38 AM PDT by Gorilla44
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To: Gorilla44
I'm anti-government , I hate government and i hate democrats(who all love government). so come and get me
2 posted on 04/06/2013 6:43:47 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Mary Landrieu voted for the UN to take away our 2nd amendment rights)
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To: Gorilla44

Having done the children type work, I would wager to guess the kids are in hog heaven. kids want to be with their parents, and the parents are together. How long it will last though, is problematic, they will get caught and it will not end well. However, LEO should NOT hurt these parents or they will be creating kids who hate government even more.


3 posted on 04/06/2013 6:44:28 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Gorilla44
already demonizing these parents so when they shoot them dead there will the excuse. same as when Clinton burned alive 100 Americans in Waco, the media demonized those 100 too
4 posted on 04/06/2013 6:47:54 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Mary Landrieu voted for the UN to take away our 2nd amendment rights)
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To: Gorilla44

too many blanks to fill in... I for 1 am not in favor of our present gov.. am I anti-gov? guess so.. except I ain’t got no boat...


5 posted on 04/06/2013 6:49:29 AM PDT by rusureitflies? (A person becomes lost when they reject the Holy Spirit.)
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To: Democrat_media

Reading the scumbag media for us is akin to the Jews in Germany reading Der Sturmer and the Volkischer Beobachter in the 1930’s.


6 posted on 04/06/2013 6:53:05 AM PDT by Luke21
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Mainstream media falsely claims that Hakkens attended ‘anti-government rally’

http://www.examiner.com/article/mainstream-media-falsely-claims-that-hakkens-attended-anti-government-rally

News reports that claim that Joshua and Sharyn Hakken attended an “anti-government rally” are false, Reason reported today.

Throughout Thursday, national and local news reported that an “anti-government” and “drug addicted” family kidnapped their own children. Mike Riggs, a reporter for Reason, wrote that “the Slidell Police Department says the claim that Hakken was arrested at an ‘anti-government rally’ simply isn’t true, and they don’t know where it came from.”


7 posted on 04/06/2013 6:58:05 AM PDT by Gorilla44
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To: Gorilla44

If you’re anti-NBC you’re also anti-government. Only those that oppose the Left and the Democrats, are anti- government. This proves that the Leftists and Democrats are, in fact, are nothing less than tyrants. This also proves, once and for all, that the Constitution now has nothing to do with government, and that adherence to the Constitution is anti-government.


8 posted on 04/06/2013 6:59:45 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est.)
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To: Gorilla44

An intelligent engineer on a yacht at sea with his wife and kids:

WOW, NOW THAT IS A REAL KOOK.....!!!

You know what? I’ll bet some day our gov’t gets so crazy that they employ agents to give machine-guns to drug-dealers and MANPADS to proto Al Qaeda guys.

Oh, wait. Eh.....


9 posted on 04/06/2013 7:03:26 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: Gorilla44

The original Tea Party was an “anti-government” rally.


10 posted on 04/06/2013 7:03:47 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Democrat_media

Exactly...just what in the hell makes these people “anti-government”....are they Christians? Did they homeschool their children? Because he is an engineer?

Where is the record of drug abuse, violence, violations of law prior to their children being taken away?

I looked though the link. All I saw were unchallenged accusations of “anti-governemtn” Hell, I’m that! Is the government gonna take away my daughter or son? Well, good effing luck with that! They’re both over 30, and expensive as hell!

Media today are just too lazy and too effing content on propagating innuendo and lies some government puke asserts without proof.

If there is proof, then frigging document it.


11 posted on 04/06/2013 7:05:24 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

I hope these folks get outside the 12-mile limit and keep going. Then, with any luck, they have a chance.


12 posted on 04/06/2013 7:08:47 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Gorilla44

Anti-government? Why, he must be out of his mind!


13 posted on 04/06/2013 7:08:53 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Oberon
I hope these folks get outside the 12-mile limit and keep going. Then, with any luck, they have a chance.

On a 25 footer they'll need a lot of skill............ and luck.........

14 posted on 04/06/2013 7:12:54 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: PghBaldy
The original Tea Party was an “anti-government” rally.

As was the first get-together of the Founders...

15 posted on 04/06/2013 7:15:11 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Gorilla44
“the Slidell Police Department says the claim that Hakken was arrested at an ‘anti-government rally’ simply isn’t true, and they don’t know where it came from.”

We do...


16 posted on 04/06/2013 7:21:03 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Gorilla44

I heard they were seen holding a Bible, too! OoooOOooooh!


17 posted on 04/06/2013 7:22:45 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Gorilla44

You cannot kidnap your own children.


18 posted on 04/06/2013 7:23:22 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: trebb

Yes.


19 posted on 04/06/2013 7:28:43 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Gorilla44

The 500 pound gorilla in the room that nobody mentioned was *why* the children were taken away from their parents and given to their maternal grandmother in the first place.

It is all due to a small amount of that “killer weed”, and GOVERNMENT RUN STARK-RAVINGLY AMOK!

“Joshua Hakken, an engineer from Tampa, Florida, was arrested in a hotel in Slidell, Louisiana, on June 17, 2012; and charged with “Possession of Marijuana, Possession of Drug Paraphernalia and Possession of a controlled dangerous substance in the presence of a minor.”

“A public information officer for the Slidell Police Department, said that Hakken “was under the influence of narcotics and also had narcotics inside his hotel room and he was speaking kind of out of his mind a little bit.”

“The Department of Children and Family Services was called, the kids were taken, and Hakken was jailed for “maybe a week or so but not very long.”

“The children were placed in temporary foster care in Louisiana.

“Allegedly armed with a firearm, Joshua Hakken tried to ‘abduct’ his children from the foster care facility, and then left when he could not get inside.

“According to multiple media outlets, a judge in Louisiana gave permanent custody of the Hakken children to Sharyn Hakken’s mother in Tampa on Tuesday of this week.”

“Joshua Hakken is facing two counts of kidnapping, two counts of interference in child custody, two counts of child neglect, one count of false imprisonment, burglary with a battery, and grand theft auto. If he was armed when any of that happened, Florida’s 10-20-Life law could come into play.”


20 posted on 04/06/2013 7:41:59 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Gorilla44

I consider being called anti-government a badge of honor.

F**k em!


21 posted on 04/06/2013 7:42:00 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Gorilla44

I see, they’re “anti-government” because the sheriff said they’re “anti-government”. No further investigation is necessary — they certainly wouldn’t do any further investigation or offer any evidence if the sheriff had called them “hard-core communists”, now would they.


22 posted on 04/06/2013 7:45:54 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Gorilla44

“anti-government”
Sounds like the worst thing you can be now is “anti-government”
And they don’t mean the middle eastern death cult which is actively trying to destroy our country, our way of life, and our government.
They mean those eeeevvvviiiillllll people who cling to a belief in a higher order and believe in the right to self-defense.


23 posted on 04/06/2013 7:47:54 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: Lakeshark

“On a 25 footer they’ll need a lot of skill............ and luck......... “

Especially a Morgan 25. Many 25 footers are sea worthy vessels but not this one.


24 posted on 04/06/2013 8:14:36 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: Gorilla44

“I love how the are using the term “anti-government” as if it’s bad thing.”

Yeh ditto. I guess I better buy a boat and head for South America. Why didn’t the headline read “Convicted drug user at sea with kidnapped children?” Apparently the guy had a drug conviction. So do millions of people and they don’t lose their kids.

Forida DEFAX is notorious for being a horrific agency. Kids disappear into that system and are never heard from again. No wonder he grabbed them and ran.


25 posted on 04/06/2013 8:29:30 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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How do a mom and dad “kidnap” their own kids? Do the kids belong to the state?


26 posted on 04/06/2013 8:31:20 AM PDT by Godwin1
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
This man and his wife are clearly dangerous, anti government types and they have defied child welfare, who knows much more than them about how to keep kids happy. The kids need to be rescued immediately even if that means that they are burned alive, along with their parents.
27 posted on 04/06/2013 8:33:06 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: All

“Law enforcement” knows exactly what’s going to happen if they corner this guy. They need to back off now.

Joshua Hakken update: Deputies search Hakken family home, turn up computer and credit cards

A computer, credit cards, an Ethernet card, bank paperwork, a U.S. map and list of contacts are among the items Hillsborough County Sheriff’s deputies say they found when searching Joshua Hakken’s Tampa home.

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The documents show Hauser provided law enforcement with oral and written statements that Joshua Hakken and her daughter Sharyn Hakken had previously planned suicide but Joshua realized “they have a way out.”

Hauser also stated that when Joshua left her house Wednesday morning he stated, “phase one completed, ready for phase two.”

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Other items found at the Hakken home included something eerie, a funeral ad found in the family office.

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/joshua-hakken-update-deputies-search-hakken-family-home-turn-up-computer-and-credit-cards


28 posted on 04/06/2013 8:37:06 AM PDT by Gorilla44
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To: Democrat_media

Don’t you worry, they will.


29 posted on 04/06/2013 8:37:23 AM PDT by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

thanks Gorilla44.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3004800/posts?page=7#7


30 posted on 04/06/2013 8:59:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Gorilla44; Old Sarge
Leftists in the MSM are playing this up with the same gusto a WWII German Press would report on 'Jews' or a Southern white press in the 60's would report on ;Negro Crimes'...

It's not the crime the Establishment press cares about - children are kidnapped by parents every day in the United States - it's the political persuasion - or color of skin - or religion they care about. In our time - it's the political beliefs...

The hate's the same - the choice of victim changes with time...

Our modern day thugs are the Liberal Elite Establishment and the MSM. In the 60's it was the Southern Establishment - in Germany the Nazi Establishment. Anyone see connections? Yep, it's the 'in' power group that reaches too far... evil is not in the choice of victim - that will be whatever group perceived as weak enough to hurt... Jews, Blacks, white Christians...

31 posted on 04/06/2013 9:32:32 AM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: Gorilla44; Old Sarge; sickoflibs; Liz
Leftists in the MSM are playing this up with the same gusto a WWII German Press would report on 'Jews' or a Southern white press in the 60's would report on ;Negro Crimes'...

It's not the crime the Establishment press cares about - children are kidnapped by parents every day in the United States - it's the political persuasion - or color of skin - or religion they care about. In our time - it's the political beliefs...

The hate's the same - the choice of victim changes with time...

Our modern day thugs are the Liberal Elite Establishment and the MSM. In the 60's it was the Southern Establishment - in Germany the Nazi Establishment. Anyone see connections? Yep, it's the 'in' power group that reaches too far... evil is not in the choice of victim - that will be whatever the in group perceives as weak enough to hurt... Jews, Blacks, and in our time, white Christians...

32 posted on 04/06/2013 9:34:15 AM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: yldstrk

If this part is true, though, and if they were selling dope I worry about these children:

The couple was acting “in a bizarre manner that alarmed officers” during the arrest, according to press release issued by the Slidell Police Department on April 4. With both children present, the couple told officers that they were “completing their ultimate journey” and planned to “take a journey to the Armageddon,” according to the release.


33 posted on 04/06/2013 9:34:31 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I find this part troubling, if true:

The couple was acting “in a bizarre manner that alarmed officers” during the arrest, according to press release issued by the Slidell Police Department on April 4. With both children present, the couple told officers that they were “completing their ultimate journey” and planned to “take a journey to the Armageddon,” according to the release.


34 posted on 04/06/2013 9:37:17 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Bigg Red

At this point, credibility is a huge issue.

Weirdly enough, even outside of US territorial waters, they will be pursued by US Marshals. Even after their children are grown up, if they catch him, they will return him to the US to face the litany of charges. And he will likely be convicted and sent to prison.


35 posted on 04/06/2013 9:45:08 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Colorado Doug
The kids need to be rescued immediately even if that means that they are burned alive, along with their parents.

Good point. You know, in the liberal mindset, that would make perfect sense, since they buy Nancy Pelosi's statement that they had to pass Obamacare before they would know what was in it.

36 posted on 04/06/2013 10:07:28 AM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: Gorilla44

Bump for later


37 posted on 04/06/2013 10:22:10 AM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

He’s an engineer. I hope he is smart enough to buy the boat and send someone else out on it while he escapes with wife and kids in another direction. That’s what I would do. Why would a smart person leave all that “evidence” in the home for the feds to find? Hummm?


38 posted on 04/06/2013 10:24:52 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: Gorilla44

I am anti government to the EXACT degree the Founding Fathers of this Great Nation were. No more no less.


39 posted on 04/06/2013 11:58:32 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Gorilla44

You cant kidnap your own children.


40 posted on 04/06/2013 12:29:38 PM PDT by FoxPro
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To: Gorilla44; All

Idiots!

Semmens is using another screen name.


41 posted on 04/06/2013 7:55:49 PM PDT by x1stcav (Man up! We're all going to have to become Samuel Whittemores.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I am actually tearing up right now as I contemplate how far we have fallen in so short a time. Cynicism has replaced trust in our legal system.


42 posted on 04/07/2013 6:43:24 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Gorilla44

The charges were consistent with him having a joint or two in his pocket. Saying he appeared under the influence is a rationale for probable cause.

The big concern here is the “Amber Alert” system. It’s supposed to be reserved for when kids are in imminent danger. It’s very powerful and pervasive, and in a case like that it’s a very good thing. Abusing it or overusing it is dangerous.

In this case, it doesn’t sound like the kids are in danger. Was it triggered because the Hakkens defied the government?


43 posted on 04/07/2013 9:05:05 AM PDT by E Rocc (November 2, 2010: The beginning of the end of the kleptocracy.)
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To: yldstrk

What no one in the MSM is talking about is the mother. I am willing to bet that she wasn’t charged with anything. What I have learned over the years about the travesty called ‘family court’ is the following. They cannot take custody from one parent as long as that parent is still married to a spouse. The family court will force a separation or divorce on the couple before granting the custody to the non-charged spouse. So if the mother here was unwilling to submit to a divorce, she too lost custody. A true family breakup.

We also need to learn about the ‘drug charges’. If the father was in Colorado or another liberal state would he have been charged for the same marijuana allegation?


44 posted on 04/11/2013 6:13:31 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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