Skip to comments.Useful Idiocy: Gay activist denounces Geller, Spencer for protesting Sharia mistreatment of gays
Posted on 04/06/2013 7:41:32 AM PDT by AuntB
People often ask me why Leftists are so eager to collaborate with Islamic supremacists, as they find it curious that they would enable those who would destroy them for their moral transgressions under Sharia. There are many answers, including a shared taste for authoritarianism, and that may be what is in play here, since Chris Stedman openly avows that he is trying to silence us, trying to intimidate the fundraising site Indiegogo into shutting down our fundraiser. Certainly both Leftists and Islamic supremacists are enemies of the freedom of speech.
"Stop trying to split gays and Muslims," by Chris Stedman in Salon, April 2:
I have an earnest and sincere question for the LGBT community: Do you support Pamela Geller?
The link Stedman puts on Pamela Geller's name goes to the Southern Poverty Law Center's defamatory profile of Geller. The SPLC, while it may have once done good work against racism, has now degenerated into a well-heeled propaganda machine that smears conservatives for cash and is an integral part of the ongoing Leftist effort to demonize and destroy those who oppose them by labeling them "hate groups." The SPLC richly deserves its place on AFDI's Threats to Freedom Index.
Anyway, does Pamela Geller have support in the gay community? She answers this question in her American Thinker article today:
And he claims I have no support among gays. Let him talk to Michael Lucas, the famous gay adult entertainment magnate. "I just returned from Tunisia (and I travelled half the Muslim world)," Michael wrote me today, "and I think gay Muslims, or I should rather say gay Arabs, would agree with your ads because they know first hand the persecution they undergo on a daily basis, It is a shame that, instead of fighting for the rights of LGBT people in Muslim countries, 'political gays' are fighting against you. You are doing a fantastic job uniting people against evil and waking Americans up. Gays should join your movement."...
Pat York of my organization Stop Islamization of America (SIOA)'s LGBT division says: "The American LGBT community is just as woefully uninformed about the harsh, deadly, current realities of Islam as anyone else. It is for this reason that an LGBT division of SIOA was recently created. The American LGBT community is allowing itself to be deceived and used for political reasons. As a community we do not need the stigma of being allied with a group that is dedicated to 'destroying western civilization from within'" - as the Muslim Brotherhood has stated in a captured internal document.
Cynthia Yockey, who blogs as "Conservative Lesbian," wrote: "Pamela Geller is a true friend of the LGBT community. She has the courage to tell the truth about the menace of Islam. I admire her and respect her work."
And gay activist Mark Koenig wrote: "I am a gay man living in Atlanta, GA, and I have an honest and sincere answer for Mr. Stedman: Not only do I categorically support Ms. Geller, I consider her to be a freedom-fighter of the highest order. She has endured years of slander and even death threats from supporters of the evil ideology that is Islam, simply for telling the truth about it. Mr. Stedman is evidently ignorant of the unconditional condemnation and death-sentence prescribed for homosexuals in the Islamic holy texts. This is more than just an aberrant interpretation or a small group of 'extremists' who take these writings literally and act upon them. Homosexuals are routinely executed in Islamic countries simply for BEING homosexual. In fact, Israel is the ONLY nation in the Middle East where gay people can be open about their sexuality without fearing for their lives."
In response to this, Stedman has already tried to smear Lucas as a bigot; he has completely ignored the others. And read on to see just how honest Chris Stedman, the Assistant Humanist Chaplain and the Values in Action Coordinator for the Humanist Community at Harvard, really is.
Geller, who is one of the most active proponents of anti-Muslim attitudes in the United States, rose to notoriety as one of the key instigators of the Park51 backlash, misrepresenting a proposed Islamic Community Center (think a YMCA or Jewish Community Center) by calling it the Ground Zero mosque and engaging in dishonest rhetoric and blatant fear-mongering. Her organization, Stop the Islamization of America, was identified as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, a civil rights organization, alongside extremist groups like the Ku Klux Klan and Nazis. And its earned that label Geller and her allies have dedicated countless hours and millions upon millions of dollars to drum up hatred, fear and xenophobia toward Muslims.
"Anti-Muslim": Leftists and Islamic supremacists favor this label because it implies that those who are fighting to defend the freedom of speech, the freedom of conscience and equality of rights for all are actually against a particular group, and want to deny them rights rather than protect the rights of all. It is a particularly repugnant canard not only because it suggests that defending freedom and human rights constitutes bigotry, but because it paints a huge target on the backs of those to whom the label is applied -- a target that those who style themselves the defenders of Islam are all too eager to take a shot at.
"...misrepresenting a proposed Islamic Community Center (think a YMCA or Jewish Community Center) by calling it the 'Ground Zero mosque...'" A YMCA or a Jewish Community Center? Which of those house a church or a synagogue? In fact, it has recently been revealed that this "Islamic Community Center" is simply a mosque and nothing else, and it is at Ground Zero.
Re the SPLC: see above. While Leftists constantly invoke its "hate group" designation as if it actually means something, they never explain (and never could explain) why the SPLC actually has any credibility in designating "hate groups" in the first place.
Re "millions upon millions of dollars": This is based on a Center for American Progress report. The Center for American Progress is an extraordinarily well-funded and anti-Semitic hard-Left organization that conflates money received by "Islamophobic" organizations over a period of ten years to give the impression of a huge sum funding some coordinated machine -- when in fact the aggregate amount was less than the budget of the Center for American Progress for one single year, and was spread among seven quite disparate organizations. In reality, those resisting jihad and Islamic supremacism are few and ill-funded, facing a giant, fabulously wealthy media and propaganda machine of which Stedman is an exponent. AFDI has never had millions and millions of dollars, or even a single million.
Last week I learned that Geller and one of her biggest allies, Robert Spencer, are hosting a fundraiser for their anti-Muslim advertisements on the website Indiegogo. This disturbed me for a number of reasons, but particularly because Indiegogos terms explicitly prohibit anything promoting hate. (Despite reports from me and many others, Indiegogo has so far declined to remove the fundraiser; if so inclined, you can let them know what you think about that here.)
Amazing that a gay activist would smear an initiative calling attention to the Sharia oppression of gays as "promoting hate." Such is the Orwellian world we live in today.
While I was looking into this, I discovered that Geller recently announced plans to run a series of anti-Muslim advertisements in San Francisco quoting Muslim individuals making anti-LGBT statements. Why? Because members of San Franciscos LGBT community criticized other anti-Muslim ads she has run there. I tweeted my appreciation that the LGBT community in San Francisco is standing up against her efforts to drive a wedge between LGBT folks and Muslims. Soon after, Geller retweeted me, claiming that she in fact has huge support in Gay community. Immediately, her supporters began to lob insults and even threats at me; Spencer himself suggested that I should be rewarded for supporting Muslims by someone saw[ing] off [my] head. (Meanwhile, though Geller, Spencer and their supporters kept tweeting at me that Muslims hate gays and want to kill me, many Muslim friends and strangers alike tweeted love and support for LGBT equality at me.)
So apparently that means that no Muslims hate gays and want to kill them. How dishonest is Chris Stedman? See for yourself: [snip]
Once the muzzies take over, all these gays and lezzies are going to be in their graves. Even Obama. They will kill them all. Muzzies hate gays. And I cannot wait to see Hillary in her burka.
Also on Jihad watch today:
‘Under pressure from Hamas-linked CAIR, AP revises meaning of term “Islamist”
Classic definition of a useful idiot. They are supporting their own execution with glee because they believe the lies rather than open their mind to the truth.
How will they ever be able to reign over us all when they can't even agree to disagree about homos?
And yet both of those groups could give a rip about what the Holy Trinity thinks about it all.
There’s also a lot of this going on:
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>>People often ask me why Leftists are so eager to collaborate with Islamic supremacists, as they find it curious that they would enable those who would destroy them for their moral transgressions under Sharia.
Because “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. The homofascists believe their brother islamofascists share a common enemy, which is American culture. It gets even more interesting when you dig down into the sources of the gay agenda.
The left does love the headchoppers. I can’t understand why, but it has something to do with dark skin and hating Christianity and capitalism.
You got it, exactly!!! Which is why the Latinos march in the street with the jihadists. WAKE UP AMERICA!
It reminds me of the puzzlement I always feel when I hear about some teenaged girl who runs away because her parents are “too strict” and then falls in with a pimp who beats the crap out of her. Girls like this, if you “save” them and return them to the loving-but-strict parents will run away again. It’s some sort of perception disorder, I guess.
According to Shaul Ganon of the Tel-Aviv based gay rights group, Agudah, "The P.A.'s usual excuse for persecuting gays is to label them collaborators--though I know of two cases in the last three years where people were tried explicitly for being homosexuals." "It's now impossible to be an open gay in the P.A." Ganon says that Islamic law is the main justification for such treatment of homosexuals under the Palestinian Authority.
Honestly, you would think conservative Christians based on the leftist stereotype of us, would be against Israel and for the Gay hating Arab countries.
It probably also has a lot to do with self-hatred and the psychological disorder that many people have that cause them to be self destructive.
The Southern Poverty Law Center is a liberal elite AstroTurf type hate group. It's a group that outlived their purpose but doesn't want to give up accummulated power.
Rather than being an organization with a purpose the SLPC has become a power group LOOKING for a purpose. Martin Buber describes this as the point where power becomes corrupted - becomes evil... Buber felt power was necessary to get 'good' accomplished - but it devolved into evil when the ' good' was accomplished and accumulated power became the focus. That's happened to the SPLC - they're a well funded powerful group in need of 'reason for being'... they've gone from defended of the downtrodden to thug enforcer of the powerful. Some of their supporters sense the change... which make them more frantic.
Years ago the Southern Poverty Law Center wasn&39;t the hate group they are today. They weren't bullies they didn't sell hatred of one group or another.
Times change and the SLPC needs to be exposed for what they've become... they're not a sweet bunch of idealistic Unitarians - they're more like a paid political hit group... with the ethics of a Chicago street gang on the take.
Unlike the KKK - a group that lied about blacks and tried to hurt them because of the color of their skin - the SPLC has chosen middle class whites to hate because of their traditional values. The evil is the same as the KKK - they've just chosen a different victim group to hate.
I detest the SPLC. A few years ago they did a hit piece on our Friend Terry Anderson....called him a racist.
How we miss you Terry!
DEATH: Terry Anderson, Radio Host Champion of Black Americans Against Unfair Immigrant Competition
It is amazing, the amount of self-hatred these people have.
She still decorates her house at Christmas time (with snowmen and snowflakes) and gives out Christmas gifts.
Terry was the best. A true patriot. And he left us much too soon.
Poofters found some religious fundamentalists that they will defend. Who knew???
Good question. I asked a very liberal friend once why he thought the Muslims are so swell, considering he and his pals would be the very first against the wall if the Muzzies ever took over. He replied that since it isn't going to happen, they have more to fear from Christians because we already are in power. I guess he feels oppressed, and is in "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" mode.
I'm tempted sometimes to let the Muzzies have their Sharia law, just to wipe the smug off the stupid liberals' faces as they're led to the wall to be shot.