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Billion Dollar Hotel will Include Smart Elevators
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Posted on 04/06/2013 8:13:32 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Developers recently unveiled plans for the new Wilshire Grand Hotel and office tower, set to be built in downtown Los Angeles. The new building is set to have a futuristic look inside and out, standing tall at 1,100 feet. The new Wilshire Grand is set to be a “four star plus” hotel and will have many luxurious attractions.

The project is estimated to cost around one billion dollars and is set to open in 2017. One of the towers most interesting features will be its high tech elevator system. The office area will use an elevator system that has no buttons inside the cab. The elevator will know where you are going and know your typical daily schedule. Using an ID card system, the elevator will know exactly where you will be, when you will be there, and where you want to go. If you normally arrive at 8:15 AM, the elevator will be on the first floor waiting for you. What if you want to go another floor? Not an option with this elevator system, because the designers want you to register everything on your card, so the elevators can run more efficiently. The hotel guests can take advantage of the super-fast elevators that will bring them to any floor, even the sky lobby on the 70th floor, in no time at all.


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1 posted on 04/06/2013 8:13:32 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Someday they’ll need a Columbo to solve “Murder on the 25th Floor”


2 posted on 04/06/2013 8:16:13 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: BenLurkin

But with they have Sabbath elevators?


3 posted on 04/06/2013 8:17:15 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: BenLurkin
Not for the free spirited. Just for obsessive compulsive types who plan their lives to the second.
4 posted on 04/06/2013 8:18:54 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: BenLurkin

California.....they’re even going to have nazi elevators.

“You vill go to da 70th floor! Der is no going places you don’t need to go to! Ve know vere you need to go!”


5 posted on 04/06/2013 8:23:03 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: BenLurkin

One problem - nobody wants to stay in downtown LA!


6 posted on 04/06/2013 8:23:23 AM PDT by Argus
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To: Sacajaweau

God love Columbo. We so need some intelligent people to fight this Leviathan and put a big wrench in this Neo-Marxist movement. The billions these creepy perverted elites have is very daunting-—most people can be bought off or easily bribed and they have total control of all three branches of our government now.


7 posted on 04/06/2013 8:25:42 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: BenLurkin
What if you want to go another floor? Not an option with this elevator system, because the designers want you to register everything on your card, so the elevators can run more efficiently.

And THAT my friends is where our command-economy government is headed. This is no different than life in the Soviet Union, ask someone who lived there. The only difference is that instead of a stern faced bureaucrat telling you it's not allowed, a computer will simply ignore your request. In a safe and efficient society where our betters know what is best for us, there will be no need for an unscheduled mid-morning walk when you just want some fresh air and a few minutes to get away from the office.

8 posted on 04/06/2013 8:26:19 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: BenLurkin
The Marriott in New Orleans has a elevator system which is a forerunner of this. No buttons inside an elevator car, but they are instead on a panel in the waiting area. You push the button for the desired floor and the panel then designates with a letter the car you are to go to. You are then taken directly to your floor.

Pretty efficient system, but with some drawbacks.

9 posted on 04/06/2013 8:26:56 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Obama lied, Stevens died.)
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To: BenLurkin
This if futuristic? Looks like something from 1960 to me.
10 posted on 04/06/2013 8:28:01 AM PDT by DManA
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To: savagesusie
I do a lot of historical research...often butting heads.

Occasionally I quip...."I feel like Columbo"...."One more thing".

11 posted on 04/06/2013 8:28:50 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: BenLurkin
"Smart elevators". What could possibly go wrong?

Especially considering the constrained intelligence of the folks who will program them.

12 posted on 04/06/2013 8:29:56 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: BenLurkin

Gee, what could possible go wrong? Eerily similar to lots of computer software — it works exactly as the designers wanted it to work. But, designers are not users, and no one could get anything done with the software.


13 posted on 04/06/2013 8:32:09 AM PDT by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Hitchiker’s Guide to the Galaxy:

“The Clairvoyant Elevator”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xbjGFLA6_8


14 posted on 04/06/2013 8:33:57 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Argus
Right....That's why there is real heavy traffic and 5 million people in that area every day with non-stop air traffic overhead inbound LAX 24/7.

"The building’s height of 1,100 feet will make it the tallest building west of the Mississippi River, taking over the top spot of its neighbor the U.S. Bank building."

15 posted on 04/06/2013 8:34:10 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: BenLurkin

I’m getting sooooO tired of the elitist use of ‘smart’ in selling products.


16 posted on 04/06/2013 8:34:20 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: BenLurkin
I.D. card. That's not "smart" at all. It's just a very simple matter that links people.

No bigus dealus.

17 posted on 04/06/2013 8:34:31 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: ken in texas

Do they have stairs in case you lose your card?


18 posted on 04/06/2013 8:35:26 AM PDT by Liberty Wins
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Re: photo. Kier Dullea. Boy was he hot. I was in LOVE with him!


19 posted on 04/06/2013 8:35:35 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: BenLurkin

I’ve used those elevators in the past in Chicago and in Europe. They are terrible. Very confusing to people who have never seen one before. Usually they require human operators on the ground floor telling people how to use the elevator.


20 posted on 04/06/2013 8:35:45 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
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21 posted on 04/06/2013 8:39:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: DManA; BenLurkin

This one is a bit more complete...

22 posted on 04/06/2013 8:41:19 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: BenLurkin

I can see it now: “ Good morning, Dave. I see you intend to go to the 23rd floor. You don’t want to do that, Dave. I’m taking you to the 12th floor instead. And don’t try the stairwells, the electronic locks will not let you through.”


23 posted on 04/06/2013 8:42:56 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Kirkwood
Usually they require human operators on the ground floor telling people how to use the elevator.

Sounds like Obama's navigators for his "affordable" "health" "care"

24 posted on 04/06/2013 8:43:18 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: BenLurkin

I didn’t think pushing a button to indicate which floor you’d like to go to was a chore. Maybe LA is different.


25 posted on 04/06/2013 8:43:53 AM PDT by kidd
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To: cripplecreek

New tagline.


26 posted on 04/06/2013 8:44:40 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: dragnet2

That would be a cool building to be in during a 7.0.


27 posted on 04/06/2013 8:44:46 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: kidd

A lot of people are anxious about spreading disease.


28 posted on 04/06/2013 8:45:39 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it were built and engineered to withstand a 7.0.


29 posted on 04/06/2013 8:46:31 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: BenLurkin

It sounds like a freaking nightmare that will be replaced by buttons, at great expense, within three years.


30 posted on 04/06/2013 8:46:59 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Most all those building there now were built to bend, sway and wave like flags during seismic events. It’s also why they are expensive to construct.


31 posted on 04/06/2013 8:49:07 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Cyber Liberty

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/Uh_Yeah.mp3


32 posted on 04/06/2013 8:49:13 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: DManA

That was the old design when it was to be two buildings. This is the current rendering, and it'll just be the one hotel tower now.

33 posted on 04/06/2013 8:50:02 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: dragnet2

I’ve always imagined the top floor of these skyscrapers would be known as “the vomit floor” after anything larger than 6.5. The do give a lot and it can’t feel pleasant way up there, like a vertical version of crack-the-whip.


34 posted on 04/06/2013 8:51:48 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets; dragnet2

Maybe, but I wouldn’t bet my life on it by being in it.

As a native So Cal former resident, I’ve rode out my share of earthquakes including the 71 and 94 quakes. I lost my home in the 94 one.


35 posted on 04/06/2013 9:00:19 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I agree 100% unless there is a special bank of elevators just for card use.

I suspect that is actually what they mean though.


36 posted on 04/06/2013 9:00:59 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: ElkGroveDan
The only difference is that instead of a stern faced bureaucrat telling you it's not allowed, a computer will simply ignore your request.


37 posted on 04/06/2013 9:01:09 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: BenLurkin
Hopefully, this will eliminate the most serious problem with conventional elevators. That smart assed kid who ...


38 posted on 04/06/2013 9:01:35 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: BenLurkin

Elevators have been smart for year, and fuzzy logic traffic flow patterns.

But when I want to get off at a different floor because I got to go to the bathroom, I dont need a silicon chip to decide I dont have to go that bad.


39 posted on 04/06/2013 9:29:53 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: BenLurkin

People will put up with this crap for ONE WEEK and then it will be time to (expensively) retrofit. I do hope they have ENOUGH BRAINS to scar-in the wiring to support doing it the right way.

(by the way, where else but FR could we be linked to Elevator Design News - thank you)


40 posted on 04/06/2013 9:33:48 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: BenLurkin

Just a guess.
If the traffic flow of the elevators can be made more efficient, they may have fewer shafts?
Elevators and mechanical services use floor space ($$$). The higher the building the higher the percentage.

One shaft ~10’ x 10’ times 100 floors times $$$ square foot/month adds up to real money. Plus the car and maintenance are not free.


41 posted on 04/06/2013 9:44:33 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it were built and engineered to withstand a 7.0.

Is it jihad proof?

42 posted on 04/06/2013 9:48:34 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Please come back when you can afford to make a purchase. Your kids are starving. Carl’s Jr. believes no child should go hungry. You are an unfit mother. Your children will be placed in the custody of Carl’s Jr. Carl’s Jr… “- - - - You, I’m Eating.”

43 posted on 04/06/2013 9:51:57 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BenLurkin

It’s a security measure. It keeps you from going to a floor other than where you’re authorized. If you have an appointment at one of the offices, there should be a way to get you there.

Smart for security.


44 posted on 04/06/2013 9:56:28 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: BenLurkin

ONLY a liberal democrat could think up such a hair brained scheme..
No way this can or even could or should work..

SOunds like “HAL” of 2001 reduced to “HERMAN” as in PeeWee Herman..


45 posted on 04/06/2013 9:58:37 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Lx

Sounds like one. You get on, do nothing, and get off where it knows you wanted to go. No effort on your part.


46 posted on 04/06/2013 10:02:52 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Legitimately “smart” elevators have had the technology — weight sensors — for at least twenty years to beat that.

This stinks of Big Brother tracking to me. How about the simplest out of the ordinary elevator uses? It looks like the elevator is too “smart” to allow these:

“Oops, I forgot something up in the room.”

“I’ll bring my files down to your room tomorrow and we’ll go over the stuff before the meeting.”


47 posted on 04/06/2013 10:19:09 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Yes. This is easily the biggest reason for “smart” elevators, to be able to have fewer of them.


48 posted on 04/06/2013 10:20:42 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

Smart elevators for dumb people.


49 posted on 04/06/2013 10:21:41 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Moonman62

The World Trace Center, started in 1967, was designed to withstand a direct hit from a fully fueled 707, and it probably would have. Airplanes and fuel loads got bigger.

I suppose it depends on your definition of jihad. With enough explosives, any building, even the Great Pyramids can be toppled.


50 posted on 04/06/2013 10:27:05 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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