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Tragic: Pastor Rick Warren announces son's suicide to congregation
Twitchy ^ | 04/06/2013 | n/a

Posted on 04/06/2013 1:53:51 PM PDT by Pyro7480

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To: erlayman
Rick is playing with fire in attempting to convert Muslims unless he can clearly distinguish between Muslims who want to kill you and Muslims who want to be friends, but I haven’t seen anything personally that he is compromising his Christian beliefs or preaching anything against scripture at all.

You are kidding me right ?
First he isn't attempting to convert muslims , he is opening dialog with them to find common ground .
This is not Biblical .


Believers are not suppose to convert anyone . That is not our job , that job belongs to the Holy Spirit. Our job is to preach the Gospel and give an answer to any that ask why we believe what we believe.


If Believers in this country do not preach the Gospel to the muslims here then it won't be long before we look like the middle east . Catholics in the middle east do not preach the Gospel to the muslims and there is no change of heart in the muslim population , they have dialog . Take a good look at how much that dialog is doing them right now as they are being slaughtered in places like Syria.

Contrast that with what is happening in Israel at places like Kehilat HaCarmel where you have Russians/Jews/Arabs (both former muslims and former Catholics/Druze (former muslims) all worshiping together and loving the country of Israel because the REAL GOSPEL (not a social gospel) was preached to them and it changed their hearts. (Keliat HaCarmel is a Messianic congregation )



51 posted on 04/06/2013 9:52:43 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: bmwcyle

Thanks Judge.


52 posted on 04/06/2013 9:53:52 PM PDT by JaguarXKE (Welcome to the new America.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

amen


53 posted on 04/06/2013 9:54:39 PM PDT by woofie
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To: napscoordinator
People should educate themselves about mental illness. There is so much misinformation, misunderstanding and ignorance out there about the topic it is truly disheartening. People "think" they know about mental illness, but often they only know what they hear in the media. (And I speak as a Father with a son who has Schizoaffective Disorder). The incidence of suicide among people suffering from mental illness is much higher than in the general population. Most people haven't a clue what people with mental illness are suffering - usually in silence because of the unfair stigma surrounding mental illness.

I teach a 12-week class called "Family-to-Family" to help families better understand and deal with a loved one with mental illness. My co-teacher is VERY involved in NAMI and tried everything to help her ill daughter. Yet her daughter died a couple of months ago despite the families very best efforts to help. Sometimes there is no answer.

On a side note, many people may not know that Abraham Lincoln suffered from debilitating depression. In the aforementioned class I teach, we cite a quote from Lincoln regarding his depression:

"I am now the most miserable man living. If what I feel were equally distributed to the whole human family, there would not be one cheerful face on the earth. Whether I shall ever be better I can not tell; I awfully forebode I shall not. To remain as I am is impossible; I must die or be better, it appears to me."

54 posted on 04/06/2013 10:06:12 PM PDT by JaguarXKE (Welcome to the new America.)
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To: Zeneta

“Thoughts of suicide are nothing new to me.

Slamming my car into a bridge at 120 mph.

Jumping from my 20th floor balcony.

My faith is the only thing that keeps me alive.”

You should get help fast. Real medical help and quarantine. Not for you, but for others when you “slam” your car in a busy traffic and destroy others’ lives. Having only your faith is no solace...


55 posted on 04/07/2013 12:26:36 AM PDT by sagar
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Well the crazy kid offed himself. Selfish and you are honoring and praising him. Astonishing. You call me an ass daily. Big woop.


56 posted on 04/07/2013 4:27:54 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: napscoordinator
Selfish and you are honoring and praising him.

Do you have any reading comprehension? Where in the hell did I honor or praise the kid? You're truly demented. I simply gave you the proof that you asked for to prove that Rick Warren did help his child not simply ignore him like you alleged.

57 posted on 04/07/2013 5:45:11 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Demented. How nice. No wonder you are the cheerleader. You must be a blast at home. If I were you, I would check on your kids. God only knows the terror they must face on a daily basis.


58 posted on 04/07/2013 6:21:41 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: Pyro7480

This was Rick Warren’s devotion yesterday

Saturday, April 06, 2013

You Need a Battle Buddy
by Rick Warren

“Confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so God can heal you. When a believing person prays, great things happen.” (James 5:16 NCV)

People don’t go to war by themselves. It would be a suicide mission. Someone has to have your back. [snip]


59 posted on 04/07/2013 6:24:54 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: napscoordinator
No wonder you are the cheerleader.

What the heck are you talking about? Exactly what am I a cheerleader for? Obviously you have a reading problem and are twisting what I've posted. I have simply offered proof to you that Rev. Warren stood beside his son and provided him with extensive treatment - as opposed to you who alleged that he simply walked away from his son and did nothing.

60 posted on 04/07/2013 2:48:14 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Finny
I find myself compelled to pray for the soul of the young man who committed suicide, not for his dad, who presumably has spiritual resources within and around him to suffice -- he's a pastor of a huge church, for crying out loud! His son seems not to have had those spiritual resources of strength, the poor soul.

Thanks . Actually I am not praying for the kid , he is dead and there is nothing that can be done for him now, he either knew Jesus or he didn't and nothing can change that now. His father however I am praying for as he is still alive , praying that he has a change of heart and repents especially since he leads such a large congregation and I personally think he is leading them astray .It's horrible to lose a child and not something I would wish on even my worst enemy so even though I don't agree with what he teaches I still feel bad for this family.



61 posted on 04/07/2013 9:18:13 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

Thanks for your reply.

My depression started when I lost my daughter to her controlling mother.

My wife was cheating on me.

I left.

I paid all the bills, since she wasn’t working.

My business failed.

I was ordered by a judge to pay child support and alimony in excess of my income.

I have always paid my child support.

I owe the IRS, at last check, over $150,000.

I owe my ex-wife, around $50,000.

She got my house that I paid for and more importantly, my daughter.

I never bought anything for myself and I still don’t.

When I bought my “wife at the time” a $13,000 diamond ring for our adversity, she made sure I traded it in for a $15,000 ring.

I really have a hard time understanding how people can be so selfish. How anybody can consciously take advantage of people around them. The lying and cheating necessary to get what they seem to want.


62 posted on 04/12/2013 2:09:43 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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