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Montgomery Officials Not Happy with New Gun Legislation
wncftv.com ^ | April 5, 2013 | Ashley Thompson

Posted on 04/06/2013 9:02:33 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Montgomery officials are speaking out against new legislation that was passed by the Senate that some say makes Alabama gun laws more lax.

Both Montgomery Mayor Todd Strange and Public Safety Director Chris Murphy are against parts of this new bill, saying it could be dangerous for Montgomery.

The new legislation, drafted by Senator Scott Beason of Gardendale, would make gettting and carrying a gun easier. There are several sections of the bill that have people talking but two parts especially, have Montgomery officials upset:

1. Would allow Alabamians the right to have a gun in their car

with a free, lifetime permit.

2. Would allow Alabamians the right to be able to carry a gun to a rally without a permit.

Public Safety Director Chris Murphy says these parts of the bill are just asking for trouble.

"In Montgomery, as you know, we've had a number of homicides and our aggravated assaults are up and since January we've seized over 240 illegal weapons," he says. "

Mayor Todd Strange echoes Murphy saying these parts of the bill are in direct conflict with what public safety's goals are.

"It's going to make it more difficult on law enforcement," says Strange. "In Montgomery, as we've alluded to, we have people clamoring because the police department is not doing enough and we'll accept that responsibility. But with so many other things in the national scene, they're tying our hands. They're making it more difficult to keep the bad guys off the streets."

We went out to the streets to find out what some people thought of the bill. Montgomery resident Willie Joe Moss found carrying a weapon without a permit to a rally disturbing.

"Emotions are high and then somebody steps on your toe, and you're ready to go and get your gun," he says. Any of these criminals could have thrown their weapon in their car and go 'you cant touch this.'"

Some people say having a free, lifetime permit to carry a gun in a car shouldn't be viewed as negative.

"Having the right to own the weapon for the rest of your life is not a problem," says Montgomery resident Stuart Lawrence. "I think the biggest problem we've had with gun violence is a problem with our mental health system, not our gun registration system."


TOPICS: US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment

1 posted on 04/06/2013 9:02:33 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So get rid of the officials who do not like it.

They work for the voters.

Not the other way around.


2 posted on 04/06/2013 9:05:41 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Sounds like they have a lot of mental health issues in Montgomery! I am amused that they are afraid of giving honest citizens the right to do what criminals do no matter what the law is!


3 posted on 04/06/2013 9:16:42 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Montgomery Officials Not Happy with New Gun Legislation

Must be some good laws.

4 posted on 04/06/2013 9:50:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Some people commit crimes; therefore, government is entitled to punish everyone.

It worked for Stalin, didn’t it?


5 posted on 04/06/2013 9:51:58 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Pack their asses up and move ‘em to con-ecticut. They should be delighted to live there.


6 posted on 04/06/2013 9:56:58 PM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Since January we seized 240 illegal guns”.

How many “legal guns” did they seize from the criminals?

One question they don’t want to answer.

PS: I’m against a lifetime carry permit. People change over time, sometimes for the worst, so a checkup every 5 years or so would be reasonable.

I undergo a security check every 5 years (in process now) because my financial situation could change to the detriment of those who I work for. No problem with the check.

It all depends on the “threat” assessments and known situations in the environment - more illegal drug use, more alcoholism and drunk drivers, more illegal immigrants, more gangs in town, more mental illness.

When we face up to the “degree” of the problems in our society, then we can begin to realistically plan to address them in a pragmatic way without destroying the Constitution.

The Obama regime refuses to do that as do many Democrat-controlled cities and states. A little mental health check of these officials is well past do, as a start.


7 posted on 04/06/2013 10:05:07 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Tailgunner Joe

These dumbasses think criminals are going to apply for a permit? Really?


8 posted on 04/06/2013 10:18:58 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Tailgunner Joe

homicides have been cut in half since the 90s. In that same period of time, the number of people with concea;led weapons has doubled. Don’t give us that bull***t about how increasing numbers of concealed firearms in the hands of law abiding citizens increases homicides.


9 posted on 04/06/2013 10:27:23 PM PDT by RC one (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Should we also require people who own Bibles or who seek to post opinions on the internet get checked up every five years too? Because people change there, too, and we can’t be too careful.


10 posted on 04/06/2013 10:47:43 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"I think the biggest problem we've had with gun violence is a problem with our mental health system, not our gun registration system."

I think he is essentially correct about that. The problem is, if the government controls evaluations of "mental health", the only thing the scumbag politicians have to do is proclaim everybody insane and then they can take away the guns of law-abiding citizens.

11 posted on 04/06/2013 10:56:37 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The only people who will find the new gun laws dangerous are those criminals who are stupid enough to try do what they were able to get away with in the past.


12 posted on 04/06/2013 10:58:33 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

probable cause blows the guy’s “you can’ t touch this it’s in my car” argument out the window. why would you say someone’s a criminal, done something criminal, without probable cause?

no probable cause, no touchy.


13 posted on 04/06/2013 11:07:34 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: coloradan

When was the last time you heard of anyone shooting someone with a Bible?

As for changes of “opinion”. If I mentioned some of the political/journalist people I’ve known who have changed their way of thinking over the past 43 years, you’d be surprised at just who they are (one of the advantages of being a journalist in DC is getting to know a lot of significant people).

Just look at the children of famous people who went in the opposite direction of their parents, sometimes with tragic results. Over a long period of time, you could see the change. The same with Adam Lanza, Loughner, Oh, etc.

My views on most things have been pretty consistent over 60 some years. If tomorrow I came out for bestiality, you’d know that something was wrong as compared to what I had been saying for the past x number of years.

You just have to know what to look for. That is what the whole mental health debate should really be about.


14 posted on 04/06/2013 11:15:51 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Texans have been able to have a gun in their car without any permit for quite some time now. Road rage shootings haven’t gone up as far as I know. They’ve probably gone down because, well, you never know...


15 posted on 04/06/2013 11:21:18 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

what part of “shall not be infringed” justifies a periotic screening?

A license makes a right into a privilege.

If the intent of the Constitution had been followed there would be no gun laws today.

The sooner all states have Vermont carry the better.


16 posted on 04/06/2013 11:51:59 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

If you are against a lifetime carry permit,you probably oppose the gun laws in the 4 states, (Alaska, Arizona, New Hampshire, and Wyoming,) where the residents are not required any permit to carry however they choose.


17 posted on 04/07/2013 12:00:11 AM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

How about legislation that if you buy a gun in Alabama you get a free switchblade or gravity knife?


18 posted on 04/07/2013 12:06:23 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

If the effing pols don’t like the legislation, then they can start a movement to rescind the Second Amendment to the Bill of Rights or shut their effing pie holes.

It’s not up to them to like it or not like it; it’s the Constitution of the United States, which lays out citizens’ UNALIENABLE RIGHTS.


19 posted on 04/07/2013 12:48:07 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
"Emotions are high and then somebody steps on your toe, and you're ready to go and get your gun," he says.

Sorry Willie but that's not the reaction of a normal person.

20 posted on 04/07/2013 4:27:06 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The new legislation, drafted by Senator Scott Beason of Gardendale, would make gettting and carrying a gun easier.

I'd consider that a good thing. Any law that makes it easier to get and carry a gun is positive. The other half of that equation should be laws that make it easier to lock up dangerous predators who carry or use guns when committing crimes - lock them up for a very long time. I'm okay with a mandatory extra 20 years for using a firearm during armed robbery, rape, or similar crimes. How do the "anti-gun" liberals feel about penalties for the misuse of firearms, as a substitute for restrictions on the rights of ordinary people?

21 posted on 04/07/2013 4:31:09 AM PDT by Pollster1 (A war can only be just if it is fought with a reasonable chance of success.)
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To: Graybeard58
Emotions are high and then somebody steps on your toe, and you're ready to go and get your gun," he says.

Sorry Willie but that's not the reaction of a normal person.


How does my correspondent "know" that his neighbors would murder him if they had guns? He doesn’t. What he was really saying was that if he had a gun, he might murder his neighbors if he had a bad day, or if they took his parking space, or played their stereos too loud. This is an example of what mental health professionals call projection – unconsciously projecting one’s own unacceptable feelings onto other people, so that one doesn’t have to own them.

Raging Against Self Defense: A psychiatrist Examines The Anti-Gun Mentality -- By Sarah Thompson, M.D.
22 posted on 04/07/2013 9:14:56 AM PDT by Peet (Notice: Due to the high price of ammo, there will be NO warning shots.)
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