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EMP – the unimaginable reality (Red Dawn?)
WND ^ | Arpil 5, 2013 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 04/06/2013 9:06:45 PM PDT by Perseverando

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To: bigbob

Didn’t 9/11 come close to sending us to an economic brink, or at least to within sight of the possibility of one?


41 posted on 04/06/2013 10:10:43 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Their military structure, if I remember correctly, is much like the Soviets and Red Chinese, strict Command and Control from the top. This makes them vulnerable to an EMP even more so than it would American military commands and units who are taught to act on their own with a very well known command structure still in place and Force Mission plans spread throughout them.

Interesting point. I hadn't considered that. BTTT.
42 posted on 04/06/2013 10:11:02 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

lol


43 posted on 04/06/2013 10:11:29 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Texas Fossil

By the way the map is from a declassified report by Dr. Michael P. Bernardin of Los Alamos headed the Joint DoD/DOE Phase 2 Feasibility Study of a High Power Radio Frequency (HPRF) Weapon, which focused on the feasibility and effectiveness of developing an HPRF (i.e. enhanced EMP) weapon for offensive purposes. Consequently, the U.S. has designed low yield nuclear weapons with massively enhanced EMP output.

http://glasstone.blogspot.com/2009/02/how-emp-turned-off-1-3-of-streetlamps.html

So in your estimation he’s wrong? Why?


44 posted on 04/06/2013 10:12:04 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Perseverando

The Clash - Rock the Casbah

45 posted on 04/06/2013 10:13:55 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: ansel12

“I mortgaged the house and bought 2 commercial freezers and 4 large homeowner freezers, maxed out the credit cards to fill them with four years of food, and wrapped the electrical cords in aluminum foil, so I’m pretty much covered for whatever North Korea can throw at us.”

As long as you have electricity.


46 posted on 04/06/2013 10:15:25 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: Liberty Valance

47 posted on 04/06/2013 10:15:33 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: ansel12

You gonna plug them into the wall socket that’s connected to your circuit box that’s connected to the power lines that are connected to transformers with tons of circuits that will be fried?

Or are you going to connect them to your generator that will be fried?

Short of putting a generator in a Faraday cage, you’re screwed.


48 posted on 04/06/2013 10:16:15 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028
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To: PIF
FYI


49 posted on 04/06/2013 10:16:30 PM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: Daffynition

50 posted on 04/06/2013 10:17:14 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: FreedomStar3028; ansel12; Lazamataz

He could just run an extension cord over to Lazamataz house!


51 posted on 04/06/2013 10:19:05 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

52 posted on 04/06/2013 10:21:00 PM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: Kartographer

Yes. I think you are drawing the wrong conclusion from the report.

I never worked for DOD, AEC, or DOE, but I have been in the plant where they make the damb things. 3 years ago.

My father in law was a division manger there for 15 years and worked there for 40 years. I knew several of his tech staff well. Some of them are dead now.

He was an EE and I have been a Ham Op since the 1970’s. Also hold a commercial ticket. We spoke the same language. I ran with the techs in NM & AZ from the Labs and the Mil Bases. Does that make me an expert. No.

But the conclusion is false.


53 posted on 04/06/2013 10:23:43 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: ansel12

Perhaps I should have read the rest of the comments before posting. It’s clear to me now that you forgot your /s tag.

But seriously, generator in a Faraday cage, with a bunch of replacements for your necessities (boards for freezers/etc).

This is what I would do if I seriously thought an EMP was a threat.

I’m kind of a prepping skeptic. If I go all out and prep magnificently, all it takes is one person besides me to know that I have, when the system crashes I’ll have to be shooting people all day long, every day.

I think it’s more practical to buy things that will allow you to survive, hunting gear, etc. Some antibiotics, other medicines, flint, weapons, warm clothing, camping gear, one of those nice hand held water filters that can filter sewage , Iodine tablets, maybe a few packs of dehydrated water and some dehydrated food, perhaps a weeks worth. But why stock up on food/water? This makes you a HUGE target, and when the SHTF you need to be GONE , OUT, MOBILE.


54 posted on 04/06/2013 10:23:55 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028
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To: ansel12

“so I’m pretty much covered for whatever North Korea can throw at us.”

If there was to be an EMP occurrence, you have done nothing to protect yourself... Fortunately for you, it’s not going to happen anyway.


55 posted on 04/06/2013 10:26:39 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Texas Fossil

http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/congress/1999_h/99-10-07bernardin.htm


56 posted on 04/06/2013 10:26:50 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Perseverando

When all your computerized cars stop dead in their tracks my pickup and my 36 Chevy hot rod will still be running!


57 posted on 04/06/2013 10:27:50 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: babygene

At some point it will all happen.

Nuclear and EMP weapons cannot exist without someday being used, tommorow? 11 years from now? 35 years? at some point weapons get used, the world has had only one atomic war in history, but history isn’t over, and the weapons are more common and routine than in the first war.


58 posted on 04/06/2013 10:30:59 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: Perseverando
The concept (EMP attack) goes back almost 13 years for TV.


59 posted on 04/06/2013 10:31:06 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Sporke
If we used an EMP over North Korea, would they ever notice?

For sure the Traffic Cops would notice, but most of the vehicles would be recovered fairly easily, unlike our computerized contraptions.


60 posted on 04/06/2013 10:31:27 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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