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Japan Defense Minister Officially Authorizes SDF Forces Shoot Down N. Korean Missile (Breaking)
Yahoo Japan Headline News (original in Japanese) from Japanese news sources ^ | 7 April 2013 | Yahoo! News Japan (original in Japanese)

Posted on 04/07/2013 6:59:27 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo

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51 posted on 04/07/2013 10:14:36 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Vaquero

That there is funny!


52 posted on 04/07/2013 10:23:17 AM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I just hope it doesn’t compromise their readiness to combat monsters.

Remember, Japan is still the only nation to have thousands of citizens squashed.


53 posted on 04/07/2013 10:28:08 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
It is extremely academic if they can hit one, but they very well may be able to get a modified scud or Nodong on Musudan and bring it down either over the Sea between DPRK and Korea, or somewhere over Japanese land, hopefully not near a populated area. To do so I would say they would be very lucky

They're only going to shoot down a missile launch if it fails (particularly true of the PAC-3s). The current Aegis BMD missile has very limited capability against the Musudan going to it's full estimated range, so the Norks could lob one OVER Japan with very little chance of it being intercepted.

54 posted on 04/07/2013 10:29:57 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Tai_Chung
Missile Defense is the last line of defense. I think the Korean missiles should be taken out. We aren’t talking about some Iraqi scud missile. They have threatened to use nukes. Don’t give them the chance. It would not be an unprovoked attack since North Korea has already announced to the world they will attack the US, Japan, and South Korea. Other actions they have taken suggest an attack is possible within days.

Probably better it happen now, as opposed to later, knowing NK will just continue to escalate their arms build up and harden their defenses.

55 posted on 04/07/2013 10:31:33 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I can't help but think Kid Korea is going to try to send a nuke to the U.S. I believe he thinks he has the greatest military in the world and can take on anything.
I don't believe the nuke will make it, but I can see it landing in the pacific ocean. If it does, there's going to be tsunamis everywhere.
I think the kid was raised in a delusional world, and I think he thinks he's indestructible - because people told him he was all his life.
56 posted on 04/07/2013 10:33:06 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: AmericanInTokyo

1) NoKo cancels test because they know, unlike US leaders, Japan’s leaders aren’t bluffing.

2) Pravda USA gives all the credit to obama backing down to Krazy Kim and defusing the situation.


57 posted on 04/07/2013 10:39:13 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: concerned about politics

He could float one over, and cause cataclysmic problems.

In fact, he could float one over to Mexico, which is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet where there government officials can be bribed with cheap prostitutes and a bit of cash..

It would be easy.

That tractor trailer parked at Walmart in Austin Texas, instead of being smuggled across filled with typical 75 Mexicans and 2,000 pounds so dope, could possibly contain something much more dangerous.


58 posted on 04/07/2013 10:41:55 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

What are the odds that the missile will perform as it’s supposed to?


59 posted on 04/07/2013 10:48:02 AM PDT by Spok
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To: SeekAndFind

Very true. Japan committed tremendous atrocities against the Chinese during WWII. The Japanese made Hitler look like a choir boy, but people only remember Hitler. I’m sure that grudge hasn’t cooled one bit.


60 posted on 04/07/2013 10:48:56 AM PDT by eak3
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To: dragnet2

government officials can be bribed with cheap prostitutes and a bit of cash..

kinda like deomdRATS

61 posted on 04/07/2013 10:55:01 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: dragnet2

If so, why make threats? In other words, why doesn’t he just shut up and then when ready, strike?

“When you have to shoot, shoot, don’t talk. “


62 posted on 04/07/2013 11:25:43 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: concerned about politics
If it does, there's going to be tsunamis everywhere.

Tsuamis nowhere, even from a multi-megaton thermonuclear device. The distance from a blast with waves of any significance is measured in a few miles, at best.

A tsunami-causing earthquake's energy makes the energy of even the largest nuclear weapons look like a joke.

63 posted on 04/07/2013 11:48:01 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Spok

This missile has never been test launched so the odds of failure are very high.


64 posted on 04/07/2013 11:48:41 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Look like the Minister of Defense in Japan is taking the following more seriously than others, who have fabricated some odd stories about it instead.

North Korea urges embassy evacuations, diplomats say
By Will Englund, Published: April 5
The Washington Post

Excerpt:
"The British Foreign Office said its embassy 'received a communication from the North Korean government this morning saying that the North Korean government would be unable to guarantee the safety of embassies and international organizations in the country in the event of conflict from April 10.'"


65 posted on 04/07/2013 11:58:56 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: plain talk

Well look at Israel...They’ve been threatening to take Iran out for 10+ years.


66 posted on 04/07/2013 12:25:05 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

North Korea is out of the missile business.

Practice shots unless directed north over China will be shot down.


67 posted on 04/07/2013 12:27:44 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

You know... seriously... we should take out the little fat boy and his palace some morning around 2:30 am and call him done.


68 posted on 04/07/2013 12:33:09 PM PDT by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

IIRC, Japan’s last two tests of SM-3 anti-missile defense systems were successful.


69 posted on 04/07/2013 12:36:34 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Any word Godzilla may call in action

Just kidding LOL!


70 posted on 04/07/2013 1:01:28 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: All

BTW Hey AIT UK Daily mail have good profile on Chia Chub Angela Lansbury aunt LOL!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2305339/Kim-Kyong-hui-Who-really-power-Pyongyang-Kim-Jong-uns-AUNT-driving-force-rise-leader.html


71 posted on 04/07/2013 1:03:22 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: American Constitutionalist

” don’t annouce your weapons before you use them “.

Unless you think you can get paid for not launching them. I’m guessing that NK is thinking that Obama will cave and pay them.


72 posted on 04/07/2013 1:03:40 PM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: Old Sarge
That even made The Doctor and Rose LOL!

Had to look that up. As a sci fi fan I NEVER ‘got’ “Dr Who”. Perhaps it was the old Dr Who, with the perrenial scarf I did not like

73 posted on 04/07/2013 1:18:40 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I just hope that we are not shooting anything down. I would much happier if we were zapping things down.


74 posted on 04/07/2013 1:30:07 PM PDT by TBall
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To: Patriot95

I have been saying this for days...there is something fishy, very very fishy, going on here...first the Japanese Central Bank floods the yard with Yen, now this...All I can say is stay tuned!


75 posted on 04/07/2013 1:43:03 PM PDT by Shady (Libya shows us how Americans rate...)
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To: maine-iac7

Watch our own backyard and the Fed...


76 posted on 04/07/2013 1:47:21 PM PDT by Shady (Libya shows us how Americans rate...)
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To: Flint
I think we will be in a position to shoot it down if necessary and give Japan credit for it.

I think we should give Fiji the credit, they never get to make the news for anything.

77 posted on 04/07/2013 1:48:34 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: AmericanInTokyo

If they do launch an attack on Japan, I can’t picture China taking up arms together with North Korea, pact or no pact. They value stability. A pact with an unstable moron, who wants to start WW III just because he feels like it, will not be honored by the Middle Kingdom. Kim is so ronery.


78 posted on 04/07/2013 1:54:38 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Logical me

Captain of ship: “If they fire one, we will fire one.” Sonar man: “Roger Captain, FIRE ONE”


79 posted on 04/07/2013 1:55:33 PM PDT by mulder1 ("The past is prologue.")
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To: SevenofNine

His Aunt is a serious alcholic it’s been said...and why she was out of the picture for several years...then she was seen ofte with KimII since she basically was taking care fo him.

Most interesting is she is the daughter of the the Ki’ms father. Who began all this crap...so it’s surely something she will never be rid of..it’s what she is.

Interesting though...if she has any real power, and the media pits her up against S. Korea’s new female leader....which would make for headlines and may be where they go with this....it could be or get even more bizzare.


80 posted on 04/07/2013 2:01:51 PM PDT by caww
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To: Patriot95

“I don’t trust China.”

No one should. Incidentally, Nixon’s ‘opening up China’ worked out really well for the US, didn’t it. It might have been strategic to try splitting the USSR and China politically, but ultimately those with similar ideologies will find a way to get together - and it will always be preferential to joining forces with your ideological enemy.


81 posted on 04/07/2013 2:06:08 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I won't be surprised if at some point the media pits Kim”s Aunt as the Power in charge....up against S.Korea's new President.

It was said when her brother, (Kim II) was swinging his rhetoric around that her husband sternly opposed it and was quickly slammed down by her. So she does at least have clout...likely with Kim- Un, more than her husband, in the decisions being made.

82 posted on 04/07/2013 2:08:31 PM PDT by caww
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To: Tai_Chung
“We aren’t talking about some Iraqi scud missile. They have threatened to use nukes. Don’t give them the chance.”

I agree, but I think this should be used as a behind the scenes threat first. They should be told - privately so that the immature and arrogant little jerk running the country can save face - that we will most definitely take out their nukes and all their missile capabilities preemptively if they don't back off the nuke rhetoric immediately. Also, we should make it clear that we will do the same if there is even a hint of them spreading nukes around to their ideological ‘friends’ in the Middle East and elsewhere.

83 posted on 04/07/2013 2:10:32 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: AmericanInTokyo

You figure they will attack a military installation , or will they go for civilians IF ...I’m in Kyushu , too close to NK for comfort !


84 posted on 04/07/2013 2:46:54 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Good God...two of the most important economies in the world (Japan and South Korea) are being terrorized by a psychopathic little punk whose only goal is to blackmail more $$$ from the West.Why can’t someone get a few snipers in there and “neutralize” that little punk and every general and admiral they have?


85 posted on 04/07/2013 2:49:57 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Short answer to your question is yes: the Japanese have four Konga-class destroyers equipped for BMD with the Aegis system and SM-2 and SM-3 missiles. In fact, the Konga has participated in BMD testing off Hawaii.

Japan is more than capable of handling the shoot-down by themselves. The fact that Tokyo has announced plans to intercept the missile—ahead of Washington—speaks volumes about our lack of leadership against North Korea.


86 posted on 04/07/2013 3:05:54 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: dragnet2
Well look at Israel...They’ve been threatening to take Iran out for 10+ years.

No they haven't. Whatever they have said is in defense of themselves against Iran who has publicly threatened to annihilate Israel. A closer analogy to NK may be Iran but really NK is a hard act to follow

87 posted on 04/07/2013 3:06:21 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: caww

OH MAN seriously she is boozer OH MAN LOL!
Well if I was part of Kim dynasty I would have drink too LOL!


88 posted on 04/07/2013 3:22:33 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

BookMark

May God keep watch.
Tatt


89 posted on 04/07/2013 3:24:50 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: skinkinthegrass

He world have to have a backbone to get steel in it!


90 posted on 04/07/2013 3:46:55 PM PDT by thegrump
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To: plain talk
Well look at Israel...They’ve been threatening to take Iran out for 10+ years.

No they haven't.

LOL! Of course they have.

Whatever they have said is in defense of themselves against Iran who has publicly threatened to annihilate Israel.

Ya don't think NK has threatened Japan, U.S., South Korea etc?

Come on...

91 posted on 04/07/2013 4:09:06 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

mclame said something on one of the talk shows (Defecate on the Nation?) this A.M. that caught me off-guard. mclame said the U.S. would lose a war with NK before he corrected himself and said the U.S. would win a war with NK. chuck e. shumer was sitting there with mclame and chuck e. shumer may have punched mclame in the side to not say that. Looked like someone was giving out a secret. Who knows? Something out of mclames mouth saying U.S. loses, then correction, gave me pause that more is going on than the citizens in the U.S. are being told on this matter. Then according to some articles there are four NK satellites up there with who knows what on board.


92 posted on 04/07/2013 4:15:37 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: SeekAndFind
My dad, who spent time with "Uncle Nippon" traveling SE Asia in the years 1942-45 (ending the war in Fukuoka #17 POW Camp, across the bay from Nagasaki), often noted Japanese cruelty, and ascribed it largely to a caste mentality. Curiously, he observed westerners such as he were accorded a greater respect (i.e. less cruelty in comparable situations) than was accorded Japanese criminals and other lower caste(s) from among their countrymen.

Nonetheless, cruelty was a calculated artform among them, not found in outbursts of emotion or insanity, or deviantly evil as one might typically expect to find such in our society. Soldiers with whom he came into contact were all steeped in the pecking order and its transactions.

Dad called their system a meat grinder. The POW system was meant get as much work out of their prisoners as possible, per calorie of food expended upon them. Everyone's ration was meted out closely. It was a grand, gradual slope toward death. It was expected that an average 80kg soldier would literally work his way down to 40kg and die off in 2-3 years. It became clockwork.

My dad lived through 3-1/2 years because he got out of the heavier work details because he was a hospital ward nurse. He was down around 44kg in September of '45. When he appeared on his parents' doorstep in January of 1946, after four months of relatively "high on the hog" eating and treatment, his parents didn't recognize who he was.

HF

93 posted on 04/07/2013 4:17:28 PM PDT by holden (Alter or abolish it yet?)
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To: maine-iac7

Nothing gives a president carte blanche like a new war.


94 posted on 04/07/2013 4:35:12 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

I would bet good money Japan already has nuclear weapons.

They’ve had everything they need for many decades.

And to date, they’ve had no reason to show their hand.


95 posted on 04/07/2013 4:48:02 PM PDT by DB
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To: M Kehoe

There is a big push here in Japan in many quarters behind the scenes in a very sensitive way, to a) revise their MacArthur “renunciation of war” Constitution, and b) ASAP go nuclear weapons now, something they swore off because of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But in terms of self defense, it is “shoganai” (it cannot be helped). They did not start this tiff, and have had to put up with such a bad neighbor North Korea for years, yes, as you said, Kehoe-san, push is indeed coming to shove in Japan and with a conservative party now at the helm (Abe Government), it looks like they have all the pieces in place to move forward post haste and make DPRK look like kid’s play when it comes to nuke arsenal and delivery capability. Of course, that will get South Korea going too, and then Taiwan will want them as well. This is what we call an arms race. All due to the little Fat One who couldn’t keep his Taepodong missile tucked in his Fruit of the Looms and his big fat mouth shut.


96 posted on 04/07/2013 5:00:05 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (All statist/dictatorial/commie leaders worldwide should be hunted down, beaten, & hung by the masses)
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To: Williams
Easy to do with established launch pads out in the open and set in place like at Musudan (Hwadae County) or on the West Coast where they brought all the journalists and had a failure--and where our assets could see real time if they are mating stages and erecting on the pads. It is the mobile ICBM missiles on long 18 wheeled trucks and ones hidden under brush and in tunnels all over North Korea in the mountains, with technology supplied by China mostly and some by Russia, that will be very hard to just "go in and take out". Sorry, them's the cards. They have done a good job of hiding many of their sneak attack offensive materials, try as we much to track it through ELINT, SIGINT, satellite (very little HUMINT).
97 posted on 04/07/2013 5:05:49 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (All statist/dictatorial/commie leaders worldwide should be hunted down, beaten, & hung by the masses)
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To: Strategerist

That is the general understanding, yes, quite difficult to do, trajectory, speed, altitude wise.


98 posted on 04/07/2013 5:07:32 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (All statist/dictatorial/commie leaders worldwide should be hunted down, beaten, & hung by the masses)
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To: dragnet2

North Korea has threatened those conventional terrorist attacks (dirty bomb, chems/bios smuggled in), and they have a plan in place to hit multiple targets with chems and bios through crack commandos infiltrating all over Seoul, hitting subway system, large buildings, government offices, etc. They have made just such threats toward American infrastructure and have even hinted “your (USA) destruction from our DPRK’ Peoples Army might not necessary come from the skies.” You figure what they are threatening. They have studied al Qaeda techniques in great detail, including constructing crack IED assembly teams in case they are invaded on the ground by joint US/South Korean attack team.


99 posted on 04/07/2013 5:10:52 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (All statist/dictatorial/commie leaders worldwide should be hunted down, beaten, & hung by the masses)
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To: caww

Thank you.


100 posted on 04/07/2013 5:13:20 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (All statist/dictatorial/commie leaders worldwide should be hunted down, beaten, & hung by the masses)
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