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Rush Limbaugh on gay marriage: “This issue is lost” [ What othre issue does Rush concede ?]
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Posted on 04/07/2013 12:35:22 PM PDT by NoLibZone

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To: NoLibZone

I don’t support rush’s sponsors to have rush pump sugar up my butt. I support them for the truth.

It’s the truth. The unthoughtfully considered rewrite of “marriage” after a few thousand years is a fait accompli. And rush is right: they brought it about by controlling the dialogue and manipulating emotion.

Most straight people, want their gay friends and family members to have healthy, happy lives. Most conservatives appreciate freedom for all to live the life of their dreams.

But we did not get out in front of the media and the low info voters and define and explain freedom for homosexuals under the constitution and fight for their right to live as they chose while equally fighting for the rights of the religious to live as they chose, both sides stopping at the point where their happiness impedes the other’s.

In some ways it is the fault of the religious. They spent so much time worrying about other people’s sins. The Bible warns against it. Just because you wear a necklace calling yourself a Christian or Jew doesn’t mean you don’t sin. You do. In the public discourse, focus only on your OWN sins. You are no cleaner than most others on the planet.

The problem was gays wanting their significant other to have the same rights and responsibilities as your significant other. That is a legal problem and we could have stepped up to the plate and solved it. We could have defined the new union as anything we wanted. We could have fought for it and pushed it and prevented what is now happening. We could have shown compassion for gays as human beings and tried to help. Jesus would have. I’m not Christian but even I know Jesus ignored people’s sins and tried to serve them.

Either you really believe in the Constitution or the Bible and the big concepts of brotherly love and true freedom or you don’t.


51 posted on 04/07/2013 2:31:09 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Steelfish

your comments protest your contention.....syllable by syllable....digging your hole deeper. Just say you don’t listen, and quit pretending to have any idea of what goes on with the show. Everyone who listens with some regularity can see right through it.


52 posted on 04/07/2013 2:38:37 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Yaelle

Amen. Well said.


53 posted on 04/07/2013 2:39:29 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: ctdonath2

Shortest book:
Gay Evolutionists: The Next Generation.


54 posted on 04/07/2013 2:39:55 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Yosemitest

That is absurd. You obviously have no independence and can’t imagine that anyone does.


55 posted on 04/07/2013 2:42:03 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: All

To everyone on this thread who is say inking they are “now done with Rush,” you are thinking with your emotions like a liberal. Those of us who were listening that day know that rush wasn’t declaring the issue dead. He was declaring the battle to prevent “gay marriage” LOST. The scoreboard says Libs 314 Cons 2. It’s a blowout and rush called it. Anyone could call it.

Don’t shoot the messenger.


56 posted on 04/07/2013 2:43:52 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: NoLibZone

The issues aren’t lost. It’s the country that’s lost. They’ll get what they wished for and wish that they hadn’t. After it’s all over, the survivors will reverse these stupid moves and rebuild, and write the history of this era with the benefit of hindsight.


57 posted on 04/07/2013 2:52:08 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: JerseyDvl; NoLibZone; C. Edmund Wright; Christie at the beach

You nailed it. It should have been an eye-opener when Rush who brands himself as a conservative icon calls upon the world’s most notorious fag to perform at his wedding. Rush has begun to seriously believe that we are all stupid dittoheads and drink from his fountain of conservative thinking. Serious conservative don’t say that gay marriage and immigration are done deals and who then stop excoriating Republicans who support these deals.
No more O’Reilly, No more Rush.


58 posted on 04/07/2013 3:05:28 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: heye2monn

I’ve noticed the same thing over the years. I sometimes wonder when he tells conservatives liberals think we are all “hay seed hicks with gun racks in the back”(nearly a direct quote) if that’s precisely what he himself is thinking as much as them.


59 posted on 04/07/2013 3:07:33 PM PDT by MachIV
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To: Secret Agent Man
Good point.

In those political forums in which I participate, I try to make it clear that I remain unimpressed by mere attitudinizing.. And that includes the use of any words that end with the suffix, "-phobe" (such as homophobe), as well as any words that end with the suffix, "-monger" (such as warmonger, hatemonger, or fearmonger.

Once others understand that one is simply not intimidated by their opprobrium, most will cease attempting it...

60 posted on 04/07/2013 3:21:15 PM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: Yaelle

It is not wise to take morality out of a society for any society to endure long term. The religious voices are important in this discussion. If you don’t have integrity or set standards, the financial system and basis of the government as it is now will always be corrupt. Why change a marriage to accommodate a lifestyle choice (free choice) for some citizens. What’s next to be changed? Why create further stress on the court system and on families. Why do the gays need special rights. It’s amazing people cannot admit that Rush gave the enemy motivation while depressing his listeners. Very disappointed in ElRushbo. A team wins with confidence. He gave reason for uncertainly; when we have no opposition voices in leadership (as he knows very well) who will not speak up. I think it was a bad move. It’s done now. We can disagree though.


61 posted on 04/07/2013 3:22:13 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Steelfish

Serious conservatives don’t continue to drone on and on about that which they know little about......


62 posted on 04/07/2013 3:32:46 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Bryan24

—>>We can only win by taking down the mainstream media. To take down/abandon Rush as you are doing is helping them win.

By the way, I didn’t speak for Rush. He plans for his show so if there’s any fallout/praise, talk to Rush.


63 posted on 04/07/2013 3:33:36 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Serious conservatives don’t have to listen to Limbaugh to get their brains activated in his morning talk show.


64 posted on 04/07/2013 3:38:18 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Christie at the beach
Well..going on and on and on about this as a given is not an inspirational motive for the opposition to defend traditional marriage.

Sadly, it seems that Rush no longer wants to be inspirational. Though at least he discusses some social issues these days. He rarely did in the past. I think he's come late to the realization that politics is downstream of culture.


65 posted on 04/07/2013 3:55:21 PM PDT by Cinnamontea
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To: NoLibZone
Is Rush just in it for the cash now?

Rush, Hannity, Beck and all of the rest have always been in it for the cash. Rush, especially, could have run for President and won with the ideas he has...but, he won't do it. No one wants to face the real fire. However, making money on the side selling tickets to watch the fire is a lucrative proposition.

66 posted on 04/07/2013 4:16:14 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Steelfish

“It should have been an eye-opener when Rush who brands himself as a conservative icon calls upon the world’s most
notorious fag to perform at his wedding. Rush has begun to seriously believe that we are all stupid dittoheads and drink from his fountain of conservative thinking.”

I stopped listening to him regularly several years ago; for those who still do, has he admitted on-air that he supports civil unions or does he save that little tidbit for interviews he doesn’t think you’ll read?

There are two Rush Limbaughs: the man himself, and the character he plays on the radio. Conflate the two at your peril. He’s a very successful entertainer, nothing more.


67 posted on 04/07/2013 4:17:41 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: JerseyDvl
These people care very little for the common man although they pretend to.

Really. And what have you done for "the common man" lately?

besides, who said it was their responsibility to care about "the common man" anymore than anyone else?

68 posted on 04/07/2013 4:18:56 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: NoLibZone

I think it is lost. I think the entire country is lost. Conservatives are being bred out of this society and will be non-existent in less than 50 years. The history books will be overhauled to create criminals of us and all of our principled leaders, etc. We’ve seen this in progress for 50 years now and it is continuing in every school in the country. Unfettered immigration is speeding it up, too, and there’s zero we can seemingly do about it.


69 posted on 04/07/2013 4:24:26 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: RIghtwardHo
Rush and crew are irrelevant to the human condition.

Really? As compared to you, who has done what for "the human condition" besides nothing?.

70 posted on 04/07/2013 4:25:18 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: NoLibZone

surrender is not going to win any votes

How votes is the GOPe willing to lose over this issue by giving up?


71 posted on 04/07/2013 4:45:57 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: NoLibZone

Marriage it self is lost so long as it is integrated with the sin of sodomy its meaning cannot be made truly be compatible with its propose.


72 posted on 04/07/2013 4:59:57 PM PDT by Monorprise (`)
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To: ctdonath2

“Not lost.
Someday society will rediscover the fact that “breeders” are different from every other permutation of “couple”, and need be treated different to improve society.”

I agree and on that day marriage will be rediscovered.


73 posted on 04/07/2013 5:00:47 PM PDT by Monorprise (`)
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To: NoLibZone

How can Rush not concede? It was over when the MSM started calling it “marriage equality”. Now if you are for real marriage, you’re an anti-equality bigot.


74 posted on 04/07/2013 5:16:50 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: NoLibZone
Is Rush just in it for the cash now?


"Now" ?

                           

75 posted on 04/07/2013 5:21:18 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: NoLibZone
Is Rush just in it for the cash now?

What, did he only accept checks before?

76 posted on 04/07/2013 5:22:27 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Bryan24

We can only win by taking down the mainstream media. To take down/abandon Rush as you are doing is helping them win.


They aren’t going to listen to you. They don’t care if they end up helping Pravda USA.


77 posted on 04/07/2013 5:29:28 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Yaelle
"In some ways it is the fault of the religious. They spent so much time worrying about other people’s sins. The Bible warns against it. Just because you wear a necklace calling yourself a Christian or Jew doesn’t mean you don’t sin. You do. In the public discourse, focus only on your OWN sins. You are no cleaner than most others on the planet."

Who in the world says Christians don't sin? Everyone does, and no one has claimed otherwise. The Bible instructs us to speak up about sin, but when we do, to make sure we aren't committing the same offense. Otherwise, Scripture tells us how TO judge sin.

Liars, thieves, and adulterers aren't running around, demanding people fawn over them and approve of their behavior. People are falling over themselves to cave to the homofascists. I never will.

" We could have shown compassion for gays as human beings and tried to help. Jesus would have. I’m not Christian but even I know Jesus ignored people’s sins and tried to serve them."

Jesus ignored people's sins......what?? No. He did not.

Visit San Francisco, where you can see queers prancing naked in public, urinating on each other and drinking it, and parading their adopted children around in leather. Or, maybe you might be at a Catholic Mass when a bunch of them invade God's house and commit sacrilege against the Eucharist.

My compassion is damn well running at an all-time low.

78 posted on 04/07/2013 5:40:43 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Go tell it to YOUR boss.


79 posted on 04/07/2013 5:42:11 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: dfwgator

I think when he hired Elton John for his wedding that should have told us, how we would be on this issue.

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Amen!


80 posted on 04/07/2013 5:44:22 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ugh. What else can I say?


81 posted on 04/07/2013 6:03:23 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: CatherineofAragon

I have exactly two words for anyone who thinks they can compromise their eternal souls on homosexuality.

Sodom

Gomorrah

End of story.


82 posted on 04/07/2013 6:03:28 PM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: Yosemitest

I don’t have one either....and I’m far LESS independent than Rush....it can happen. Sorry you haven’t experienced it.


83 posted on 04/07/2013 6:05:30 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: MestaMachine

You’re exactly right.


84 posted on 04/07/2013 6:06:48 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

How old are you, 12?


85 posted on 04/07/2013 6:09:05 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: NoLibZone

Rush is a bet of a libertine when it comes to sex issues isnt he? I’m guessing that this is why he has such a hard time having long lasting relationships.


86 posted on 04/07/2013 6:19:17 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: highball

Sadly, you are right on. Millions have been duped. Laura Ingraham; Palin, and Michele Bachmann are the real thing.


87 posted on 04/07/2013 6:21:56 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: NoLibZone
What other issue does he concede?

To death do us part?"

88 posted on 04/07/2013 6:21:56 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Yosemitest
It ain't Rush. It's Rush's boss. Rush has a boss, also, that he has to work for, and most bosses don't always agree with your values. Julie Talbott may be the reason "why" Rush doesn't say he's against homosexual marriage.

Total and complete BS, crapolla, horse dungy, whatever. What's the old saying: If you owe the bank a $100,000, then the bank owns you; if you owe the bank a $100,000,000, then you own the bank. Seems to me that unless Rush's ratings are suddenly in the toilet, he Owns the bank and therefore, he calls the shots.

89 posted on 04/07/2013 6:29:53 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: NoLibZone
Rush was expressing his opinion on the political battle. I hope he is wrong. I am not ready to concede. I pray for a revival in this nation. I am also ready for this nation to crumble--Yahweh spoke to the Hebrews about various restrictions on their sexual behavior in Leviticus 18...then he said:

“Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled. Even the land was defiled; so I punished it for its sin, and the land vomited out its inhabitants. But you must keep my decrees and my laws. The native-born and the foreigners residing among you must not do any of these detestable things, for all these things were done by the people who lived in the land before you, and the land became defiled. And if you defile the land, it will vomit you out as it vomited out the nations that were before you."

Obviously there is an application for modern man--modern man, like the ancient Canaanites, are not going to have an optimum civilization if they engage in the acts considered a perversion in Leviticus 18.

There are, of course, some laws and some practices from the ancient Torah that are not meant for later times. The sexual behaviors, however, were not among these. Even Christ taught forgiveness for these sins, but admonished participants to sin no more. And the writer of Romans and Revelation point out that sexual sinners are not following God's way.

90 posted on 04/07/2013 6:34:48 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Bigg Red

Isn’t that the truth because Elton John is supporting marriage equality. This is so out of control. No person with a moral conviction should see this as a lost cause because it’s sending our society on a dangerous path of saying goodbye to freedom of religion and freedom of speech. Christians who speak out will be imprisoned. It’s going to happen. Rush should be on fire about saving traditional marriage, religious freedom and keeping America as we have always known it to be. He has lots of power, not time to surrender.


91 posted on 04/07/2013 6:39:02 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Christie at the beach

Your prediction is, I am afraid, most likely correct.

Limbaugh likes to run his mouth, but I never really get the impression that he is actually a conservative. Like Coulter, he just likes to get a reaction. There is no substance there, IMO. Can’t stand to listen to him for more than about 5 minutes.


92 posted on 04/07/2013 6:45:49 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Christie at the beach

Personally, I don’t think that all gay groups want this happening. They just want their America as it has been and to be left alone as anyone does. I think the gay mafia are the ones who are completely behind this. We all have to stand together and don’t think it’s time to give up. How in the world do you manage a crisis in your life if you give up? We have to fire these current politicians in the next election. Rush and the others in the media have to hit back hard on these politicians who represent us.


93 posted on 04/07/2013 6:49:14 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: NoLibZone

Rush has always been in it for the money. The GOP has a lot of old gays, and would love to drop the social issues


94 posted on 04/07/2013 6:53:24 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: NoLibZone

Rush has become just what he feared he would when he sold out on the Obama BC issue.

I lost all respect for him, Sean, Mark and he whole cast of other talk show hosts over their refusal to reearch and report on the BC issue.

They are all only in it for the money, and to promote their friends next book........

Shout out to Ann “man neck” Coulture fans, how’s she doing now? LOL


95 posted on 04/07/2013 7:32:52 PM PDT by stockpirate (Sen. John Kerry belonged to the terrorist group VVAW.)
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To: NoLibZone

>>>Rush claims the battle was lost when conservatives started modifying the word “marriage” (“traditional marriage,” “straight marriage”)

The phrases “second marriage”, “third marriage”, and “fourth marriage” don’t reallly help in the battle either.


96 posted on 04/07/2013 7:59:13 PM PDT by oincobx
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To: NoLibZone

I considered Rush to be lost many years ago when he decided to become a country club republican during Bush one. At that point he changed his stand on many things.


97 posted on 04/07/2013 8:05:40 PM PDT by Revel
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To: mnehring; NoLibZone
I agree with mnehring. I think we've lost this one.

Of course, the real losers will be the Western world x years from now when the consequences of these actions finaly catch up with us. Happy goldfish bowl everyone!

98 posted on 04/08/2013 12:38:09 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Yaelle
In some ways it is the fault of the religious. They spent so much time worrying about other people’s sins. The Bible warns against it. Just because you wear a necklace calling yourself a Christian or Jew doesn’t mean you don’t sin. You do. In the public discourse, focus only on your OWN sins. You are no cleaner than most others on the planet.

You always post this type of stuff on the "gay" threads. You still don't get the point about Christians and homosexuals and sin. Christians do not believe that they are sinless and that gays are not. The big issue with Christians and sin is that the gays and their defenders do not believe that homosexuality is a sin. How many times must this be repeated until you get it? I am a Christian, and I do sin. I don't stand up in church or in the public square demanding that people accept my sins as "normal". All sin is bad. Christianity is about Christ saving undeserving sinners: "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." (Romans 5:8, NSAB)

I don't know where you got the idea that Jesus said sin was "OK" and that he didn't judge people. Just because he was among "sinners and tax collectors" did not mean he approved of their lifestyles.

99 posted on 04/08/2013 6:57:27 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: NoLibZone

Rush LOST me in the second term of Bush....

whoring for McCain didn't help....

and pimping for ROmney didn't either. Hush Bimbo - the pink golfbag.

100 posted on 04/08/2013 8:31:09 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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