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O'Reilly blasts same-sex marriage critics
CNN ^ | 3/27/2013 | Ashley Killough

Posted on 04/07/2013 12:35:31 PM PDT by IbJensen

(CNN) - Bill O'Reilly, the conservative Fox News host, believes same-sex marriage advocates have a more convincing argument than opponents, who do nothing but rehash scripture to make their point.

"The compelling argument is on the side of homosexuals," O'Reilly said Tuesday on Fox. "That's where the compelling argument is. 'We're Americans. We just want to be treated like everybody else.' That's a compelling argument, and to deny that, you have got to have a very strong argument on the other side. The argument on the other side hasn't been able to do anything but thump the Bible."

O'Reilly has previously stated he takes a libertarian view on the issue, and repeated Tuesday night that it's a decision that should be left up to the states. "I support civil unions. I always have. The gay marriage thing, I don't feel that strongly about it one way or another."

Both sides of the debate clashed this week in Washington as the Supreme Court hears challenges to two cases dealing with the issue.

O'Reilly has been less critical of so-called Bible thumpers in the past. In a May 2009 column on his website, he again argued the matter should be decided by states but also said he understands that "most Americans believe heterosexual marriage deserves a special place in our society."

"Our Judeo-Christian traditions, which have made the United States the most prosperous and just society the world has ever known, speak to a family built around a responsible mother and a father-certainly the optimum when it comes to raising children," he wrote.

But, he argued, people who feel strongly about traditional marriage "have allowed themselves to be intimidated" and have refused to stand up for what they believe in.

(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blowhard; foxnews; homosexualagenda; leftofcenter; liberalmedia; malmedymassacre; oreilly; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; pinkjournalism; rino; samesexmarriage; waronreligion
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To: Ge0ffrey
Wouldn’t the libertarian position be against the state recognizing any marriage?

I'm not libertarian but I think that may be the only way to win this. After all the first official government issued marriage licenses didn't appear till the 1850s in the Kansas territory. I'm only guessing but I suspect it only came about as a result of deal making over whether Kansas would be a slave or free state.
41 posted on 04/07/2013 2:08:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: IbJensen

While I take my values and morals from scripture, rather than play god by picking and choosing my own according to expedience, I know that the traditional definition of marriage doesn’t depend on scripture, but has five thousand years of civilization supporting it. A perversion like homosexuality shouldn’t be allowed to change that.


42 posted on 04/07/2013 2:12:19 PM PDT by pallis
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To: IbJensen

Bill O’Reilly has become the NEW LEADER OF THE HOMO TRIBES.


43 posted on 04/07/2013 2:15:31 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~)
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To: gleeaikin

“So you are saying that as a retired widow, if I marry it will be a fraud because I cannot produce a baby?”

You’re twisting words. Now, THAT is just plain silly of you.

Supposing you were younger, still married to a man, and had to have a hysterectomy. You could still have sex.


44 posted on 04/07/2013 2:18:07 PM PDT by kitkat (STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY)
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To: gleeaikin

>>>While on the subject of compelling arguments, let’s consider the case of the disenfranchised citizens of Washington, DC. They pay 100% federal income taxes, but have no Senate or voting House of Representatives delegates. This is clearly “taxation without representation.” >>>

Talk to the democrats. They have kept the people in D.C. on the “reservation” so they could point to them as poor people who NEED government handouts. Yet, when a Republican is president, they can blame that party for all the “poor” people within D.C.


45 posted on 04/07/2013 2:21:44 PM PDT by kitkat (STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY)
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To: kitkat
I believe Washington DC was intended to be a political reservation of sorts.

On July 16, 1790, the Residence Act approved the creation of a capital district located along the Potomac River on the country's East Coast. As permitted by the U.S. Constitution, the District is under the exclusive jurisdiction of the United States Congress and is therefore not a part of any U.S. state.
46 posted on 04/07/2013 2:28:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: IbJensen
"Bill O'Reilly, the conservative Fox News host, believes same-sex marriage advocates have a more convincing argument than opponents, who do nothing but rehash scripture to make their point."

That is because Bill O' Reilly does NOT believe the Word of God, or what God has to say about homosexuality, sodomy, or the BIBLICAL institution of marriage! Given these facts it is no wonder O'REALLY takes the UNBIBLICAL position of Sodomite "marriage". All I can say is I wouldn't want to be in UNBELIEVER O' Reilly's shoes when he stands before The Lord Jesus Christ, the righteous judge.

As a side note, one like O'REALLY can claim to be a "christian" but if he does not BELIEVE the Word of God, what kind of so-called "christian" is he in reality?

47 posted on 04/07/2013 2:29:23 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: cripplecreek

The actor Jeremy Irons says he’s a libertarian. He said in an interview that perhaps a man should be able to marry his son. That way the son’s inheritance would be assured, since our laws most favor the spouse. The interviewer said that would be incest, and therefore illegal — to which Irons responded no it wouldn’t, since the idea behind incest laws is to prevent deformed offspring, and since males can’t produce offspring that isn’t a factor. He said lawyers will enjoy years and years of litigation as marriage continues to be redefined and expanded.


48 posted on 04/07/2013 2:33:28 PM PDT by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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Please help Finish This
FReepathon THIS Month!!

49 posted on 04/07/2013 2:33:45 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: zipper

Sounds like this Irons guy is throwing a lot of chaff into the air. If a man wants his estate to go to his son he needs to write it into his will and the courts need to stop playing games and recognize a will as written.

The simple fact is that the state had little to do with marriage until the 1850s


50 posted on 04/07/2013 2:41:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: IbJensen

O’Reilly is a total ass. Nothing would make me happier than to see his show go down in flames.


51 posted on 04/07/2013 2:45:17 PM PDT by AdaGray
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To: zipper
Interesting point - man marrying son. "The interviewer said that would be incest, and therefore illegal — to which Irons responded no it wouldn’t, since the idea behind incest laws is to prevent deformed offspring, "

Maybe incest laws interfere with 'rights'. What next?

52 posted on 04/07/2013 2:47:12 PM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: IbJensen

Bill is a homo in his own right. If two homosexuals wanted to adopt a grandchild of his he would find nothing wrong with them using his little grandbaby as a sperm bank.


53 posted on 04/07/2013 2:49:48 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: IbJensen

O’Reilly is a posturing ass.


54 posted on 04/07/2013 3:06:16 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: IbJensen

I’m still trying to understand how the homo marriage thing jives with separation of church and state.

the govt can make all the noises it wants... churches do not have to follow it.


55 posted on 04/07/2013 3:12:34 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

Exactly. We’re trying to play their game on their court by their rules.


56 posted on 04/07/2013 3:16:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: gleeaikin

> What is the argument on the other side???

The argument is simply this.

Like Canada and the Netherlands, it will become illegal to teach against homosexuality. It almost is now.

It will be illegal to deny to homosexual “couples” services reserved for marriage and married couples.

It will be illegal to preach the gospel, because you won’t be able to preach SIN. Can’t preach the good news without preaching the bad news first.

“Safe” sex will be taught in the government schools not just for heterosexual couplings, but for homosexual ones, right down to the kindergarten level.

Brainwashing of little children about homosexuality can begin in earnest.

Those who believe the Bible is the Word of God will be even more marginalized than they are today, with their jobs, businesses, livelihoods, freedoms, and even their lives in jeopardy.

All these things have already started, and they will become much worse once the marriage of homosexuals becomes endorsed by the power of the state.

Imagine life in the United States as one unending, daily celebration of homosexuality, a perpetual gay pride parade.


57 posted on 04/07/2013 3:17:38 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Shadow44

“O’Reilly is an egomaniac that will say anything to make himself look good.

He probably thinks caving on the issue makes him look wise against the “far-right fringe”.”

I think your right, hes not even paying attention to the propose and nature of the institution of marriage. The reason behind condemnation of the sin of sodomy.

Unfortunately most of our modern civilization has forgotten what real marriage is too, this is in itself the primary reason they are unable to defend it. Marriage for most people today is about a feeling among the parents, not for the children.

Looking back just 300 years ago and this idea of marriage seems almost ridiculousness given that so many marriages were in fact arranged. If marriage was all about love and not about children why on earth would any marriage have been arranged?

Marriage is primarily about children, it is not suitable nor should it be desirable if you have not capacity of children for which it was meant to protect.


58 posted on 04/07/2013 3:37:06 PM PDT by Monorprise (`)
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To: IbJensen

At least I know that I will not be tormented by him when I get to heaven.


59 posted on 04/07/2013 3:37:58 PM PDT by kempster
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To: IbJensen

Let’s see..Money/fortune and fame vs. God.

Most seem to pick the money, don’t they.


60 posted on 04/07/2013 3:40:38 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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