What FDR said about Jews in private

L.A. Touches ^ | 4/7/13 | Rafael Medoff

[Nachum]

In May 1943, President Franklin Roosevelt met with British Prime Minister Winston Churchill at the White House. It was 17 months after Pearl Harbor and a little more than a year before D-Day. The two Allied leaders reviewed the war effort to date and exchanged thoughts on their plans for the postwar era. At one point in the discussion, FDR offered what he called "the best way to settle the Jewish question."

Vice President Henry Wallace, who noted the conversation in his diary, said Roosevelt spoke approvingly of a plan (recommended by geographer and Johns Hopkins University President Isaiah Bowman) "to spread the Jews thin all over the world." The diary entry adds: "The president said he had tried this out in [Meriwether] County, Georgia [where Roosevelt lived in the 1920s] and at Hyde Park on the basis of adding four or five Jewish families at each place. He claimed that the local population would have no objection if there were no more than that."

Roosevelt's "best way" remark is condescending and distasteful, and coming from anyone else it would probably be regarded as anti-Semitism. But more than that, FDR's support for "spreading the Jews thin" may hold the key to understanding a subject that has been at the center of controversy for decades: the American government's tepid response to the Holocaust.

[dsc]

“God help me, but there are times when I think, why couldn’t they have directed their fury towards the Muslims instead?”

If we take the Nazis, the Jews, and the Muslims, which two were (and are) animated by Satan?

[dfwgator]

Nazism and Islam were more closely aligned than most people realize

Heinrich Himmler’s Remarkable Admiration For Islam: “It Promises Beautiful Women In Heaven”
http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/3964

[Zhang Fei]

Nazism and Islam were more closely aligned than most people realize Heinrich Himmler’s Remarkable Admiration For Islam: “It Promises Beautiful Women In Heaven”

There's actually a remarkable resemble between the Muslim paradise and Valhalla, where is where worshipers of Thor go if they die, sword in hand. Of course, the women in Valhalla aren't necessarily virgins.

[chuckles]

I guess you didn't hear about the cruise ship that was refused entry to the US? They were sent back to Germany and exterminated.

FDR fought in Europe to help Britain, nothing more. He USED the Holocaust to kick the Nazi's in the crotch after the war. We would have done the same no matter what happened to the Jews. Even today, Jews vote Dem because of FDR and he didn't give a damn one way or the other. Today, who is it that takes the Pali's side over Israel? Dems!

Jews will be sold down the river by Dems yet they stay on the plantation just like blacks.

[dfwgator]

They were sent back to Germany and exterminated.

Not quite true...The St Louis was sent back to Europe, and the passengers settled in countries like Holland, France and Belgium...at the time, they were considered safe...until the Nazis invaded a year later.

[dsc]

“Nazism and Islam were more closely aligned than most people realize”

Yes, indeedy.

[Zhang Fei]

I actually don't fault Roosevelt for sequestering the Nisei, a percentage of whom really were security risks—or rather, their Japanese-born parents and grandparents were (according to memoirs I've read by Nisei).

I'd say that was racialism. It's one thing to intern individuals born abroad or even the first generation born stateside. They were interning individuals with 1/16 Japanese blood, which is to say they were interning the great-great-grandchildren of the original Japanese settler stateside.

[wardaddy]

All that WASP crap was Hudson Valley snobbery

I never saw that in Dixie

We loved our coonasses and Greeks and legs and guineas and Ulster Scots

Wasp patrimony was as alien to us as robber barons

[Zhang Fei]

He USED the Holocaust to kick the Nazi's in the crotch after the war.

That would be Truman. FDR died before the war ended.

[chuckles]

Another thing to remember at the time, The Dems were the KKK. The Dems were the socialists which aligned more closely with Hitler. Many Newspapers and Holly Wood types supported Hitler. They were Dems. FDR fit in with this crowd.

[dfwgator]

He USED the Holocaust to kick the Nazi's in the crotch after the war.

Well, at least those who couldn't help us build rockets.

[dfwgator]

They liked Hitler until he invaded their beloved Soviet Union.

[wardaddy]

Excellent post

God I love a clear thinker

I’m no FDR lover but that Jew hater hat is such bullshit

Just like Obama....the same smear yet outside the Michelle Jarrett inner core he is surrounded by prog Jews

Obama hates Israeli Likud hawks

But adores his socialist Jewish comrades

They call Churchill a Jew hater too....and again utter nonsense

The well of victim hood...the pail is never dry

[kabumpo]

Citizen s have the right to bring their relatives here, especially in a dire emergency. The Roosevelt state dept denied them entry because they were Jews.

[Zhang Fei]

They liked Hitler until he invaded their beloved Soviet Union.

I don't think they ever liked Hitler. They took their talking points from Stalin's Comintern operatives. As long as the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was in force, and Nazi Germany was friendly with the Soviets, they were friendly to the Nazis. But that was always a marriage of convenience. They were always Soviet sympathizers first and foremost. Nazi Germany was too sympathetic to private enterprise for American leftists - their ideal was always state ownership of all productive enterprises and Nazi Germany was never going to be compatible with it.

[dfwgator]

Nazi Germany was too sympathetic to private enterprise for American leftists - their ideal was always state ownership of all productive enterprises and Nazi Germany was never going to be compatible with it.

Hitler only tolerated private enterprise to the point where it would help him build his war machine. A lot of Nazi rhetoric was as anti-capitalistic as the Soviet rhetoric was....Once the war was won, there is no question that the Nazis' next target for liquidation was to be the business class.

[Zhang Fei]

Citizen s have the right to bring their relatives here, especially in a dire emergency. The Roosevelt state dept denied them entry because they were Jews.

I think that's a stretch. I'd be interested to see which laws he broke. While it's possible for people here to apply to the immigration authorities for permission to bring their relatives here, it's a multi-year process and subject to lengthy reviews and procedures. They can't just show up on a freighter and expect to be admitted.

[Zhang Fei]

Hitler only tolerated private enterprise to the point where it would help him build his war machine. A lot of Nazi rhetoric was as anti-capitalistic as the Soviet rhetoric was....Once the war was won, there is no question that the Nazis' next target for liquidation was to be the business class.

It was all for show. Soviet leaders were paupers. Nazi leaders were very, very rich, and had lavish lifestyles. Their objectives were completely different. Fascism's objective was to conquer and enslave the world for the nation. Communism's objective was to conquer the world and kill all the rich people so that capital would finally reside where it belonged - in the hands of the working people.

[dfwgator]

Soviet leaders had their nice dachas, they didn’t want for anything....Commie leaders from Stalin to Ceausescu lived lavish lifestyles.

[ReformedBeckite]

There were many Jews on ships off the coast of the USA that weren’t permitted in. That may be part of it.

I don't know if the event concedes to be in the same time period as WWII but many Jews left Europe to come to America but never made it because they were dropped off in Ireland and told it was America, after they were dropped off of the ships, the ships were quickly loaded with Irish women and children that had more money in their pockets and headed out to America. That is one of the reason why there is many Irish in the United States, and Ireland has many Jews.