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Why Kim Jong-Un Will Probably Win
P J Media ^ | 4/7/2013 | Rick Moran

Posted on 04/08/2013 4:48:01 AM PDT by IbJensen

Kim Jong-Un’s gambit to extract money to keep his dictatorship afloat is going to work. Despite it being pointed out many times since the crisis began that there was nothing much new in Kim’s creation of a crisis in order to force the big powers back to the negotiating table, the U.S. is eagerly looking to do exactly that.

The cancellation of a missile test here in the U.S. — ostensibly to prevent Kim from getting the wrong idea about U.S. intentions — might be considered prudent under the circumstances. Whether Kim is pretending to be crazy or actually is off his nut hardly matters when you’re looking at someone who might take anything as a provocation and respond militarily.

But the administration has all but announced its capitulation to Kim’s belligerence, as Secretary of State John Kerry heads to Asia next week.

Meanwhile, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry will visit Asia next week where he is expected to discuss potential diplomatic incentives for North Korea once it stops its threatening rhetoric, senior administration officials told CNN on condition of anonymity.

“Secretary Kerry agrees that we have to have a robust deterrent because we really don’t’ know what these guys will do,” said one senior official, who was not authorized to speak on the issue.

“But he also knows that the North Koreans need a diplomatic off-ramp and that they have to be able to see it.”

A “diplomatic off-ramp”? In other words, a bribe.

The Christian Science Monitor fleshes this concept out:

After sending nuclear-capable B-52s to the skies and antimissile ships to the waters around the Korean Peninsula, as well as missile-defense batteries to Alaska and Guam, the Obama administration is now moving to ratchet down the tensions.

The aim of Secretary Kerry’s Asia trip will be to reassure allies and partners that the US, after having taken necessary military precautions, is focused on finding the diplomatic steps – both short-term and further into the future – to address the nuclear-armed North’s belligerence.

“While recent US actions have shored up the concerns of our allies and moved to protect the US from potential attack, now is the time for reinforcing as well the diplomatic and economic measures that will stifle North Korean behavior and force a reset on their part,” says George Lopez, a former United Nations sanctions monitor on the North Korea case.

What would some of these “diplomatic and economic measures” be?

Kerry left Saturday for the Middle East and then for London before traveling to Seoul, Bejing and Tokyo later next week.

The shape of a possible eventual deal, the sources said, is likely to take the form of previous attempts at satisfying what the United States sees as North Korea’s ultimate goal of survival, which could include security guarantees, a road map to a peace treaty and a lifting of sanctions.

North Korea wants all three of these elements as part of any potential agreement with the United States.

“It’s really old wine in a new bottle,” one official said. “We have 30 plus statements, offers and positions we have put on the table over the last several years.”

Earlier this week, the United States attempted to reduce friction with Pyongyang by emphasizing a return to diplomacy, recognizing that its announcements of American military deployments in response to belligerent statements by North Korea may have contributed to escalating tensions between the two countries.

“The U.S. is not matching their rhetoric,” notes Joe Cirincione, a former adviser to President Barack Obama on nuclear issues who now serves as president of the Ploughshares Fund, which works against the spread of nuclear weapons. “They are not pouring gasoline on the fire.”

Cirincione argues North Korean leader Kim Jong Un may be ready to calm the situation with the United States and South Korea, having achieved his goals of solidifying his position with the North Korean people and military and increasing his bargaining position with South Korea and the United States.

“You are starting to see this tamp down and I suspect after a decent interval you might be able to restart talks directly with the North,” he said.

Like a two year old who has thrown a tantrum and got his exhausted parents to given in, Kim will reap the benefits of his brinksmanship. The cave-in by the U.S. could also embolden the young man to go even farther next time, testing the limits of American appeasement with even more bellicosity and outrageous behavior.

The metaphor of Charlie Brown, the football, and Lucy comes to mind. Lucy, while seemingly crazy for doing the same thing over and over, makes a rational choice to pull the football back while Charlie Brown holds out hope that this time will be different. Despite severe reservations on his part, Charlie Brown always talks himself into playing the game with Lucy.

Would that U.S. policy makers refuse to play Kim’s game next time.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: northkorea
What should happen is the decapitation of this regime. Even if we had a genuine American in the White Hous, we're exhaused due to our Middle Eastern misadventures. Don't look to the Chinese commies as they helped North Korea aim their missiles towards US tagets. Under no circumstances shouldthe world's most repressive regime be rewarded.
1 posted on 04/08/2013 4:48:01 AM PDT by IbJensen
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2 posted on 04/08/2013 4:50:20 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: IbJensen

‘Have Obama give me a call and send lots of $$$’


3 posted on 04/08/2013 4:51:20 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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4 posted on 04/08/2013 4:53:15 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

5 posted on 04/08/2013 4:55:04 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: IbJensen

But you know they will be rewarded. The liberal’s answer to any problem is to throw money at it and buy your way out.
Look for the administration to give them billions and, then, CNN and MSNBC will declare victory and shower accolades on our “savior”.


6 posted on 04/08/2013 4:55:35 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: IbJensen

I have never seen such a lame bunch of ass-hats running the country in my lifetime(66 years). Backing off a missile test so we don’t piss off an enemy?
Unless we have an Eagle Eye event we are screwed any way you look at it !


7 posted on 04/08/2013 5:02:30 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: IbJensen
The shape of a possible eventual deal, the sources said, is likely to take the form of previous attempts...
8 posted on 04/08/2013 5:05:12 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Renegade
North Korea has already won.

When the US cancelled the missile test at Vandenberg, North Korea achieved something no other country has ever done. This will embolden them. Their current course is yielding big results.

9 posted on 04/08/2013 5:24:49 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: C210N

“Kim Jong-Un’s gambit to extract money to keep his dictatorship afloat is going to work.”......

Send him his funds in the form a a BIG BOMB! Cut his annual “welfare requests”.


10 posted on 04/08/2013 5:25:06 AM PDT by DaveA37
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11 posted on 04/08/2013 5:31:15 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (The Old White Flag Republicans can go straight to He// and take their pal Obama with them!)
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To: IbJensen

As a nation, when your friends no longer trust you and your enemies no longer fear you, your collective tit is in the wringer.

The United States has her tit in a wringer. again.


12 posted on 04/08/2013 5:34:11 AM PDT by Tupelo (Old, Bald, Ugly, Fat and Broke in Arizona)
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To: Progov

One of the things few in the press consider is we, as the major part of the UN Korean Police Action, are still at war with the NORKS, we have a truce, no peace treaty. We treat it as a treaty, they treat it as a halt to shooting but continue threaten rekindling shooting because they know the UN will do nothing, not even send in the blue helmets if shooting starts up again. We unfortunately have about 30K military personnel still in Korea so are on the hook, more so with the jerk in the White House who would gladly turn them into pawns in his effort to capture the house in 14.


13 posted on 04/08/2013 5:35:51 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Tupelo

It was rather predictable in November, 2008. It was just a question of “when.”


14 posted on 04/08/2013 5:53:23 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Renegade

Frankly....I wouldn’t waste the missile.


15 posted on 04/08/2013 6:07:41 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: IbJensen

I think this is nothing more than a Jesse Jackson”ShakeDown”(but on a larger scale).He wants more food from us and fuel-oil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


16 posted on 04/08/2013 6:09:43 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: IbJensen

If we had a real President, the Korean boy wonder would be dead, buried, and cremated. Kim Jong-Urn.


17 posted on 04/08/2013 6:10:19 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (July 4, 1776: Declaration of Independence. Nov 6, 2012: Declaration of Dependence. R.I.P. America.)
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To: Russ

They should cut out the middle man(us) and just ask China for the billions. We are broke and that’s where the cash would come from anyway.


18 posted on 04/08/2013 6:51:50 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: IbJensen

“What should happen is the decapitation of this regime. Even if we had a genuine American in the White Hous, we’re exhaused due to our Middle Eastern misadventures.”

We still have a bunch of cruise missiles somewhere, collecting dust! We still have submarines that are a lot more sophisticated than those of the NorK’s. Sink their navy in their ports. Flatten their launch sites.

Lastly, IMHO, it will be the Skor ROK’s that are chomping at the bit to go do what voodoo they do!

I believe that the NorK’s are the kid with the stick in the fence of the snarling pit-bull, who forgot that off the leash, they might climb the fence!


19 posted on 04/08/2013 7:01:20 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Apparently we’ve never had a real president...that family has been in power since 1948.


20 posted on 04/08/2013 7:24:20 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: stuartcr
Apparently we’ve never had a real president...that family has been in power since 1948.

I beg to differ:

Before Obama, N. Korea did not have any nuclear potential; It had the backing of the Red Chinese and/or Soviet Russia (at varying times); We had an armistice.

Since Obama came to power, N. Korea has developed the bomb, lost pretty much any support from its ally, and cancelled the armistice. Yet Obama's only action is to cancel a missile test.

Regards,

21 posted on 04/08/2013 9:07:43 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

I didn’t realize this thread was only about Nukes


22 posted on 04/08/2013 9:19:16 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: stuartcr
I didn’t realize this thread was only about Nukes

Are you implying that I had claimed that it was "only about nukes?"

Because I said nothing to indicate that.

Rather, I listed three different parameters (one of which concerned N. Korea's new-found nuclear potential) leading me to conclude that never have we had so spineless an administration.

Regards,

23 posted on 04/08/2013 9:38:33 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

no


24 posted on 04/08/2013 9:39:13 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: IbJensen

The only dignified response to blackmail is violence.


25 posted on 04/08/2013 10:24:09 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: IbJensen; tx_eggman
“It’s really old wine in a new bottle,” one official said

I do not think that illustration means what he thinks it means
26 posted on 04/08/2013 2:46:28 PM PDT by SpinnerWebb (In 2012 you will awaken from your HOPEnosis and have no recollection of this... "Constitution")
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