Skip to comments.Father Ends Crime Spree by Shooting Armed Robber Outside Burger King
Posted on 04/08/2013 6:10:52 AM PDT by expat1000
A father who was robbed while eating with his family took out his own gun and shot the suspect, Miami Police said.
It happened at about 1 p.m. Friday at the Burger King restaurant at Biscayne Boulevard and Northeast 17th Street, police said.
The robber walked in, flashed his gun to the family, demanded their valuables, then headed for the door, according to police.
The father, fearing for his life, took out his gun and shot the suspect in the leg as he stood outside the restaurant, police said.
The suspect, 36-year-old Travis Harris, jumped into a getaway Ford F-150 and took off, police said.
Police said they found him and the driver, 38-year-old Ramon Smalls, a few blocks away thanks to a Good Samaritan who followed them and alerted police. The two suspects were taken into custody at a gas station at Northeast 2nd Avenue and 26th Street after they apparently ran out of fuel, police added.
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Too bad he didn’t nick the femoral artery.
a getaway car that runs out of fuel, you can’t make this stuff up
Priceless! I guess the Hospital wasn’t in their plans either!
The suspect, 36-year-old Travis Harris,
jumped hopped into a getaway Ford F-150 and took off, police said.
Poor planning at it’s finest. One problem I see possibly confronting the family man. If the perp had already left the premises, is it a justifiable shoot? Not sure how the cops and DA in miami will handle that. Hopefully the dad walks. Oh yeah. Did the perps look like any of king hussein’s sons?
My wife accuses me of being slightly OCD because I fill up the tank the night before we go to my son's house. My son lives 32 miles away.
If I were planning a robbery, I'd probably need to install a 30 gallon auxiliary tank and fill it up as well. These putzes probably had to do the robbery first to get enough cash to put in a couple of gallons.
Looks like the same guy, previous arrest. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer!
when I was in the military, they taught that we should never go below half a tank
“The father who fired his gun is not being charged, police said.”
>>Oh yeah. Did the perps look like any of king husseins sons?
Three guesses. The first two don’t count.
Dad might walk from criminal proscuetion (let’s hope), but he’s going to go bankrupt in civil court. Butthead stupid move on his part.
“a getaway car that runs out of fuel, you cant make this stuff up”
Sure sign of a weakened economy.
I shouldn’t laugh at someone else’s misfortune, but I’m glad I was not drinking coffee when I read that!
Exactly. Here in NC we can only shoot if we are in imminent danger and fear for our lives. I am glad the robber was caught, and I hope the shooter has a great lawyer.
Perhaps the reason for the robbery was to get money for gas to get to work the next day
He went outside to see where the perp went and/or get the license number. . .and Son of The Messiah was standing there holding a gun and the guy was in fear of his life or the life of an innocent by-stander. . .so the guy shot him. . .that’s how I see it. . . .that’s my story and I’m stickin’ to it.
They were stealing money to buy fuel. I have heard worse, like being caught while attempting to flee the scene on foot or on a bicycle. When committing robbery always drive a fully fueled pickup truck with a fully fueled motorcycle in the back and wear sneakers in case all else fails.
uh huh, that’s the ticket
the demographic “African American male, age 15-25” makes up what percentage of the population and what percentage of the crimes committed?
>>the demographic African American male, age 15-25 makes up what percentage of the population and what percentage of the crimes committed?
That’s absolutely unfair - to young men. One of these guys was 36. Don’t know about the other one.
I'm glad, but I think we can assume that the guy is either a cop, or related to a cop to get off with so little inquiry. Unfortunately, if that dad were just a regular citizen, he'd have the bright lights shined in his face and some poor woman crying on the news that her boy is a good man and never was gonna hurt nobody with his gun and now her poor baby'll never be able to walk normally again.
The perps stole the familys’ cellphones. Would stand your ground come into play?
Wow... it used to be that once over 30, these guys slowed down a bit with their criminal behavior.
But I don’t think it’s “unfair” to examine the demographic that I outlined and the disproportional level of criminal behavior, especially violent criminal behavior.
The IBD had an article this morning that answered the question of “why”... and we all know this answer - fatherlessness.
And the cause of the fatherlessness is LIBERAL POLICY.
Why? I never understood that civil court thing. Just wondering.
That’s where one person sues another person.
Not in Florida he won't.
Actually I probably should have inserted a /sarc tag as you did not miss the mark by much. Or maybe /smirk would have been best.
Yes, liberals do not much like the idea of either fathers or even mothers. All good things like love, nurturing, food, shelter, education should be provided by the STATE in their view.
The owner of the car told me how she stood there watching the fool and laughing.
With a biblical worldview, it’s easy to see that these destructive policies and viewpoints are none other than Satanic in origin.
Dang. I should have figured that was the reason. They were “entitled” to the money (but not gas) so they could power their fossil fuel powered vehicle to get to their jobs all week long. I guess they must just do stick ups as a second job. Too bad so many folks have to have a second job huh?
Sounds like the Zimmerman case except the shooter wasn’t getting his brains beaten in.
Pray for America
Even better if Dad kills the perp. His accomplice would be charged with felony murder. Sometimes, Florida doesn't completely suck.
It would have been in TX, I think- don't know about FL.
You forgot the belt to hold up their pants for when they have to run from the cops! lol
This is how it will play out:
Your Honor, my client was merely seeking to purchase some skittles, and while on the way realized he was out of gas. My client is guilty of nothing more than seeking to borrow gas money from “the father” - he did not deserve to get shot in the leg. For his injuries and mental anguish, we are asking you to award my client $100,000 in compensatory damages from “the father”.
I wonder if he's related to Leonard
Yep. Not being familiar with Miami, I Googled it. They made it all of 0.8 miles before running out of gas. Which one are we going to call Einstein, and which one Dirac?
When I lived in FL and took the ccw class, they were very specific about when you could and couldn’t take the shot. Things may have changed since I took the class but according to the instructors lesson at that time this would NOT have been a justifiable shoot. Shooter better have deep pockets since this asshat will look for deprivation of future earning potential compensation. Just another free ride for one of king husseins sons.
This is a marvelous lesson in some of the advantages of concealed carry.
CC sends the “degree of difficulty” of armed robbery through the roof, and gives huge advantages to the cc-carrying victim, even if the robber is brandishing a gun, pointing it at the victim, and the hammer is back.
First of all, the robber wants to rob, not kill, then get away. He does not want to be witnessed, or have somebody sneak up behind him. And he has to be aware of an escape route or two, and that they remain open.
So his attention is all over the place, looking in all directions, not just the victim, ready to bolt at moment’s notice for several reasons, and, often as not, he is high on some drug or alcohol, further diminishing his capacity.
But the cc victim is focused. Find an opportunity, draw my gun while taking it off safe, and light the robber up. Your intent is not to rob the robber, but to shoot him. Hopefully a bunch, not once at a time with a pause to see if your bullets have “worked”.
The cc victim can shoot any time he wants. If the robber says he has a gun, or holds the gun in his pocket, or is distracted, or when he reaches down to get valuables you have tossed on the ground, or even when he is leaving.
(Oh, and the big secret, that a lot of guns used by robbers don’t even work.)
It’s comparable to waiting for an opening when you want to make a left turn across traffic. If you see an opportunity, you can take it or not, or wait until a better opportunity. Or even wait for a red light in the opposing lane, and for a nice person to stop and leave you a gap to cross.
The tactical advantages of cc are huge. The dad in this instance did not want any risk to his kids at all, so at first cooperated, and only shot when the robber was trying to get away. He did right. Judgment call as to whether he did right enough times.
As a civil or criminal juror, I would accept the father's statement at face value. The predator would get nothing in civil court, and the decent citizen would not even be convicted of "disturbing the peace" or of "discharging a firearm within city limits" if I was on the jury. Decent people need to make time for jury duty and put an end to abusive prosecution (like Martin Zimmerman but less publicized) and to frivolous or abusive lawsuits (such as a criminal who whines because he got shot by his victim).
Hubby was in the army and then was a firefighter for 33 years. He is OCD about gas in the car. I will run it to the red line but anything close to 1/4 of a tank deserves a fill-up in his view.
Admittedly, I did not click out to the article and read the whole thing, but was there a “Crime Spree” or was this a simple robbery? I don’t see any mention of the series of robberies or other crimes that one would normally think of when hearing the words “Crime Spree” as mentioned in the title.
Wife is emphatic about it after being caught low during an impending Florida hurricane, when all the gas stations shut down and bailed.
Years later a mechanic said that with these new cars, driving too often with a low tank left the internal gas pump exposed and not insulated by the gas, and tended to fail more often.
Between the two, I now top off when I get near a half tank.
IF they had the $80 for a fill up, they wouldn’t be robbin’ nobody!
oh... and why can’t dad hit center mass, inside 15 yds.?
ONE MILLION carry permits in Florida. Crime is not a good idea.
CT is an free range crime zone, criminals are welcome in connecticut. Where the homes are rich, the citizens unarmed, and the TV shows use bows and arrows.
My wife and I argue about this. We drive cars with very good mileage. She fills up almost every time she passes a Sams Club or Costco (ok, a little exaggeration there), while I wait until 1/4 tank or so is left. That’s still over 100 miles until empty. I don’t think it is efficient to fill up at 1/2 tank, unless you plan on driving on roads where there is no gas for hundreds of miles.
A happy news story for today!!
the “alleged” criminal had already demonstrated he was a danger to the father and others. It was an ongoing threat. He robbed a store in broad daylight, not a rational act. He could easily have decided to eliminate witnesses.