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My fatherís gay marriage (WaPo OpEd)
The Washington Post ^ | 4/6/2013 | Susan Meader Tobias

Posted on 04/08/2013 3:09:07 PM PDT by Salman

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In 1930, when he was 12, my dad was caught in bed with another boy at his New England prep school and sent home. My enraged grandfather hired a psychologist to straighten him out. The psychologist proclaimed that my grandmother’s extravagant love of her eldest child, and my grandfather’s harsh discipline, were responsible for Dad’s sexual confusion. He pronounced the cure: that my father leave home.

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So at the age of 12, he was exiled by his family to board at schools and summer camps and spent the rest of his life on the run. After my mother married my father, she and we four children trailed along after him, ever faster; by the time I left home for school at 17, we had lived in 20 cities, countless hotels and rented houses and on three continents. We might as well have been criminals.

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(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: disorders; gay; homosexualagenda; psychology; samesexattraction; ssm
Interesting story, bizarre conclusion.
1 posted on 04/08/2013 3:09:07 PM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman

” The psychologist proclaimed that my grandmother’s extravagant love of her eldest child, and my grandfather’s harsh discipline, were responsible for Dad’s sexual confusion.”

That was a rather interesting working hypothesis before the APA became infiltrated with political hacks in the 70s.

Of course we now know it’s that “gay gene” people keep reassuring us is out there. /s


2 posted on 04/08/2013 3:12:53 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Salman
“Doesn’t a child have the right to be loved and cared for, to see her parents loving and caring for one another wholeheartedly and without reservation?”

No Formula 1 track in the world has more twists and turns than that bit of convoluted pretzel logic. And by the way, if your parents are both men or both women, they aren't your parents dumbass.

3 posted on 04/08/2013 3:14:39 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: Salman

The homosexuals I have known have all had a concurrent underlying personality disorder of some type.

I have one or two more for the list now.


4 posted on 04/08/2013 3:19:11 PM PDT by henkster (I have one more cow than my neighbor. I am a kulak.)
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To: Salman

They’re definitely pushing for more than 10%. And if his father was really homosexual, how did he manage to actually sleep with a woman and make children. It should have been repulsive to him.


5 posted on 04/08/2013 3:27:36 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: Salman

This woman seems to have had a very bad childhood...sad she doesn’t understand why.


6 posted on 04/08/2013 3:30:02 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Shadow44
That was a rather interesting working hypothesis before the APA became infiltrated with political hacks in the 70s.

Of course we now know it’s that “gay gene” people keep reassuring us is out there.

Maybe, maybe not. But those classic parental patterns probably aren't as common as they once were -- a lot of parents know better -- but more and more young people are proclaiming themselves homosexual.

I suspect it has to do with the culture -- more exposure to sex earlier, more tolerance of homosexuality -- but those old "working hypotheses" aren't explaining as much as they once did, or if they are, it's always easier to see them at work in somebody else's family, rather than one's own.

FWIW, her father served his country in WWII and Korea.

7 posted on 04/08/2013 3:30:17 PM PDT by x
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To: Salman
“Doesn’t a child have the right to be loved and cared for, to see her parents loving and caring for one another wholeheartedly and without reservation?”

If this woman's father had not married a woman, and fathered four children, then, without medical meddling, she would not have had "parents" in the first place. In actuality, there is no such thing as homosexual parents. There is a biological parent and a non-biological live in.

8 posted on 04/08/2013 3:35:19 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Salman
The psychologist proclaimed that my grandmother’s extravagant love of her eldest child, and my grandfather’s harsh discipline, were responsible for Dad’s sexual confusion.

it sounds to me that he over-identified with his mother... he did not relate to his father...

9 posted on 04/08/2013 3:36:35 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: Salman

Sad story. Her father clearly was badly deranged, for whatever reason, and that’s not easy for a child to grow up with.

But I fail to see her point. What is she trying to say? That he should have had a gay marriage instead, and never conceived her or any of his other children? It’s all very well to fantasize about how things could have been different than they are, but that never helps. And the problem wasn’t that there was no gay rights or gay marriage before she was born. The problem was that her father was a deluded nut case.

Deal with it. Move on. Try to make the best of your own life. Most of us have had to cope with difficulties of one kind or another growing up.

It’s pretty sick of the Washington ComPost to run a story like this. Their motive is all too obvious. They play on the grief of others to make political points. Scum.


10 posted on 04/08/2013 3:36:58 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Salman

Is this a boo hoo story by someone who wishes she did not exist? My mom was heterosexual, my dad was homosexual, and somehow I came to be and life was horrible and I wish I were never born.

If only my dad could have married one of his many man loves, then my life would have been so much better. just wow.


11 posted on 04/08/2013 3:38:32 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Salman
Doesn’t a child have the right to be loved and cared for, to see her parents loving and caring for one another wholeheartedly and without reservation? Isn’t that what anyone would want for himself and his children?

this is not a guarantee for any child no matter what set of parents he has...

12 posted on 04/08/2013 3:40:40 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: Salman
Gays have always been able to marry. But I fail to see how society is strengthened when they are forced by convention to marry someone whose body is unattractive to them, whose voice isn’t what they want to hear in the morning or whose touch may be as grating as sand in the bed.

I've got news for Susan Meader Tobias. Based upon divorce rates, I'd say the above description can be applied to many marriages, regardless of how screwed up the particular individual is with respect to sexual orientation.

13 posted on 04/08/2013 3:42:24 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Salman

such people do not fear God , and that’s the problem

you do NOT want to get God pissed off at you due to your
forbidden or improper behaviors .

not wise at all


14 posted on 04/08/2013 3:45:17 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Salman
feh...
15 posted on 04/08/2013 4:12:04 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Salman
Well, I know one thing she's lying about:
An octave on a standard piano keyboard is about 6.5”, three of those is 19.5”.

Mark out 19.5” and tell me if you find it plausible that a man (even a gay man) could span that distance with one hand.

According to Guinness Book of World Records, the record hand span is 12”. The widest span in the world can't even span TWO octaves - so poor, little, sweet daddy couldn't even span two octaves, let alone three!

Not credible.

16 posted on 04/08/2013 4:29:29 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: Salman

Not sure I believe the story at all. What is this person looking for?? 15 minutes??


17 posted on 04/08/2013 4:30:40 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Salman
The dude was sexalized enough at 12 years old to be engaging in sex with another boy and nobody thinks he was being buggered by some older homosexual? This was 1930, not 2010 so it's not like he had easy access to immoral material or pornography. Where does a boy of 12, in the 30’s, learn the process of sex? I bet dollars to dimes he was groomed by an older queer and it ruined his whole life, and likely that of his children if this woman truly believes the crap she is spouting.
18 posted on 04/08/2013 4:35:30 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: RightOnTheBorder

bump


19 posted on 04/08/2013 4:37:50 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Cicero

I don’t even believe the story.


20 posted on 04/08/2013 4:43:35 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Salman

The author would not have been born if his father married a man.

No matter how much they try, sperm enemas won’t make a gay man pregnant.


21 posted on 04/08/2013 4:45:26 PM PDT by dragonblustar (2 Peter 3:18)
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To: Sacajaweau

I don’t either. Who the heck would have told her that her father was found in bed with another boy at the age of 12. She just made the whole thing up for her 15 minutes of fame. Liberals do it all the time.


22 posted on 04/08/2013 4:48:56 PM PDT by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: Sacajaweau

Sure, the author might be the one who’s really nuts, insteadd. But I’m afraid it sounds as if both she and her father are a bit nuts. (Note: Not to be taken as an authorized psychiatric opinion.)


23 posted on 04/08/2013 6:35:34 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

I agree. Could not get past the whole “found in bed with another boy at 12 years” fact.


24 posted on 04/08/2013 9:35:16 PM PDT by happyhomemaker (Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer. Rom 12:12)
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To: beandog
I don’t either. Who the heck would have told her that her father was found in bed with another boy at the age of 12. She just made the whole thing up for her 15 minutes of fame. Liberals do it all the time.

Maybe her father told her. But maybe he didn't tell her everything about his sexual experiences including the possibility of adult-minor molestation.

25 posted on 04/09/2013 10:21:20 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: SoldierDad
"Gays have always been able to marry. But I fail to see how society is strengthened when they are forced by convention to marry someone whose body is unattractive to them, whose voice isn’t what they want to hear in the morning or whose touch may be as grating as sand in the bed."

(from her editorial)

Hmm. Explain Robert Mapplethorpe who repeatedly shagged Patti Smith for years even after he'd started experimenting with men and S&M.

Plenty of supposedly "gay" men are obsessed with women. Perhaps Andy Warhol turned queer because of predators in the art scene and horndogs who worked hard (including Dylan) to get Edie Sedgwick away from him. He lost his virginity somewhat "late" in life according to the documentary about him.

The homosexuals who seem to have an aversion to vaginas appear to have "mother" issues.

Plenty of homosexual men running around with drag queens DRESSED as women, sometimes even with breasts surgically affixed. If you don't like the equipment and the trappings, it seems far fetched to believe that they were "born" looking for "crossdressers" and "surgical post-op transexuals".

26 posted on 04/09/2013 10:28:20 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: petitfour; Revolting cat!
Is this a boo hoo story by someone who wishes she did not exist? My mom was heterosexual, my dad was homosexual, and somehow I came to be and life was horrible and I wish I were never born.

If she's going to stick by her tale that her daddy was physically disgusted by women yet raised 4 children, perhaps she is bemoaning never coming to know her REAL dad.


27 posted on 04/09/2013 10:32:38 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise
Points well taken. There may be a small percentage of these people born with a predisposition towards sexual deviance. However, there is no evidence of a “gay” gene, and, considering the extremely small percentage of people engaged in this type of behavior, it is, in fact, a disorder. There are people born with a predisposition for schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, depression, borderline personality disorder, narcissism, etc. Society does not (yet, anyway) call these things “normal” variants of the human condition. Pedophiles and sexual offenders may be born with a predisposition for those behaviors, but are we contemplating calling those behaviors a variant of normal human behavior? I think not.
28 posted on 04/09/2013 12:21:49 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Salman
My father’s gay marriage

Sorry, no such thing.

29 posted on 04/09/2013 12:23:59 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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To: Clock King

“And if his father was really homosexual, how did he manage to actually sleep with a woman and make children. It should have been repulsive to him.”

Some folks bat for both teams.


30 posted on 04/09/2013 6:37:30 PM PDT by SoCal SoCon (Conservatism =/= Corporatism.)
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