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Abortion Refusal Death: Hindu Woman Told Ireland 'Is A Catholic Country'
Guardian (U.K.) ^ | April 04, 2013 | Henry McDonald

Posted on 04/08/2013 8:33:17 PM PDT by Steelfish

Abortion Refusal Death: Hindu Woman Told Ireland 'Is A Catholic Country' Savita Halappanavar's husband asked hospital staff why Irish abortion law was being imposed on a Hindu couple, inquest told

Henry McDonald

The husband of an Indian woman who died after being denied an abortion at an Irish hospital broke down in tears on Monday as he described how they pleaded that as Hindus they were not morally opposed to a termination that could have saved her life.

Praveen Halappanavar repeated his claim that a doctor, named at the inquest in Galway as Dr Katherine Astbury, told him that a termination could not be performed because "this is a Catholic country".

His 31-year-old wife, Savita, died at University College hospital in Galway on 28 October last year, eight days after being admitted. She had been 17 weeks pregnant. Her case has become the focus of international debate and protests over Ireland's strict laws on abortion.

Halappanavar told the inquest that he and his wife had been sent home from the hospital on Sunday 21 October, but returned a couple of hours later because she was in severe pain. He was later told that his wife was miscarrying.

"Savita was crying loudly," Halappanavar told the court. He said a doctor told him: "'You have to be brave' – he said the baby won't arrive. Both of us were shattered – we didn't know what to do.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; ireland

1 posted on 04/08/2013 8:33:17 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

A. Lex Loci. It’s not the law you like or the law your religion dictates, it’s the law of the place where you are.


2 posted on 04/08/2013 8:36:19 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Steelfish

Is abortion banned in Ireland?


3 posted on 04/08/2013 8:38:33 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Steelfish

I have seen a rebuttal of this assertion that an abortion would have saved this woman’s life. She died of a septic infection that had nothing to do with the pregnancy. It is my understanding that her husband was informed of that fact.


4 posted on 04/08/2013 8:38:41 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Steelfish

Kaffir to Saudi, “Uh...ya know what? I BELIEVE my hand should not be cut off. Eh...not ok with Baby Jesus. KAY..?”

CHOP...!


5 posted on 04/08/2013 8:39:11 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Steelfish

This has been debunked entirely. Stop posting crap.


6 posted on 04/08/2013 8:40:20 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Wiser now
I have seen a rebuttal of this assertion that an abortion would have saved this woman’s life. She died of a septic infection that had nothing to do with the pregnancy. It is my understanding that her husband was informed of that fact.

It's not what actually happened that matters, it's what fits the agenda.

7 posted on 04/08/2013 8:41:29 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Steelfish

The story is at least 3 months old. It’s a lie. It was made into a story for pro-abort propaganda the first time around. Garbage.


8 posted on 04/08/2013 8:44:16 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Viennacon

Oh yes.

This is from the National Catholic Register in an interview with Cardinal Burke in Feb 2013;

The push for a change to Ireland’s laws on abortion comes in reaction to the death of Savita Halappanavar, an Indian woman who died at a Galway hospital after miscarrying. She reportedly asked for an abortion and later died of a severe infection. The cause of her death is still under investigation, although abortion advocates seized on the case to claim legal abortion would have saved her life.

Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/cardinal-burke-no-communion-for-irish-politicians-who-support-abortion/#ixzz2Pw0TRH2u


9 posted on 04/08/2013 8:50:00 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Houghton M.

Thank you for clarifying.


10 posted on 04/08/2013 9:21:11 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Steelfish
It would be helpful to have a specific medical description of what caused her death.
11 posted on 04/08/2013 9:22:45 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

From what I’ve read, sepsis (septic shock) that an abortion would not have mitigated. No idea why the OP is posting this pro-death cult propaganda.


12 posted on 04/08/2013 9:38:28 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Houghton M.

Nothing wrong here. I believe in the old adage “when in Rome....”


13 posted on 04/08/2013 9:42:00 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

There wasn’t time to fly her back to India?


14 posted on 04/08/2013 9:45:26 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Steelfish

This is just another example of how leftists work. They hype something and don’t let the facts get in the way of their agenda. There is no indication that having an abortion would’ve prevented the situation this unfortunate women was in. I’ve only encountered one instance where abortion could’ve been relevant to a mothers life. A friend of mine and coworker’s wife had a bout with a rare usually deadly form of cancer. She is now in remission and is pregnant which means that she can no longer have additional chemotherapy treatments. It was a worry that it might become a choice between her and the child but thankfully it did not come to that and she and the baby are fine and the baby is on schedule to be delivered. Even given that she did not want an abortion. This will make their 8th child.

Roe V Wade was a product of just flat out made up numbers concerning women who died in back ally abortions. It was estimated a total of 38 died in the whole country prior to Roe V Wade. That is the way the left works though. They hype non problems so they can transform the country to their liking facts, good sense, or decency be damned.


15 posted on 04/08/2013 9:50:51 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: BenLurkin
There wasn’t time to fly her back to India?

No need for that. Belfast in Northern Ireland is just a couple of hours' drive away.

16 posted on 04/08/2013 9:51:43 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Wiser now

I have seen a rebuttal of this assertion that an abortion would have saved this woman’s life. She died of a septic infection that had nothing to do with the pregnancy. It is my understanding that her husband was informed of that fact.

&&&
Now, now, don’t go clouding the propaganda narrative with those dang facts.l


17 posted on 04/08/2013 11:18:53 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Viennacon
you can refer to details at http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/

Abortion in the Republic of Ireland is illegal unless it occurs as the result of a medical intervention performed to save the life of the mother

Incidently, this is one thing in which the Northern Irish and the Irish Republic see eye to eye and one thing in which both the Presbyterians and the Catholics in Northern Ireland agree on -- babykilling is wrong...

18 posted on 04/08/2013 11:20:11 PM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: Zhang Fei

I believe that Northern Ireland also has restrictions against babykilling — it is not as free-for-all as the other parts of the UK


19 posted on 04/08/2013 11:22:05 PM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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This story has already been debunked. The doctors have a different version, saying the woman had an infection that would not have been resolved by killing the baby. Also, the hospital has said it would have performed a procedure that resulted in the baby's death if that would have saved the mom. Also Catholic doctrine does not oppose performing any medical procedure to save the life of the mother even if the unintended consequence of this is the death of the fetus, although such cases are very rare. This is a guy looking for a payday. Naturally pro-abortion forces in Ireland and now the UK are misrepresenting the facts to push their death agenda.
20 posted on 04/08/2013 11:23:35 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: Steelfish

So Hindus don’t eat cows but killing babies is ok.


21 posted on 04/09/2013 12:06:05 AM PDT by informavoracious (The ancient Greeks and Romans thought they were on the "right side of history.")
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To: Steelfish

My impression is that this story was, if not debunked, certainly revealed to be not quite as cut and dried as the Guardian presents it.

Are we seeing a new tactic of the leftist media? Are they now presenting a lie, having it questioned, and then presenting it again months later as though the initial conversation had never been had?


22 posted on 04/09/2013 3:15:13 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (In te, Domine, speravi: non confundar in aeternum.)
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To: Steelfish

Plenty wrong here. Pro-abort propaganda is what’s wrong here. And you posted it. Stale pro-abort propaganda on top of it.

Since when did posting stale propaganda from the Guardian become part of FR’s mission statement?


23 posted on 04/09/2013 5:42:28 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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21 posted on 4/9/2013 2:06:05 AM by informavoracious: “So Hindus don’t eat cows but killing babies is ok.”

We don't know (yet) if this couple were devout Hindus or that religion's equivalent to liberals. But if this really is Hindu teaching — protect the cows, but killing babies is okay — it says a lot about that religion.

Do we have any Hindu Freepers, or others familiar with the religion, who can educate us on abortion and Hinduism?

24 posted on 04/09/2013 4:02:49 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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