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Gun Law Drafted In Secret
Daily Caller ^ | April 8, 2013 | Alan Korwin

Posted on 04/09/2013 9:09:45 AM PDT by lbryce

Can you imagine what a tough uphill struggle the anti-gun-rights people would have if the “news” media wasn’t falling all over itself to support the anti-rights side?

Connecticut just drafted 138 pages of gun law basically in secret, enacted it before it could be read and digested by those who signed it — and certainly not by the public it pretends to legitimately control — and in doing so ended up requiring federally licensed agents in the state to violate federal law, or flatly deny citizens their rights. Just on practical grounds this is a disaster. But that’s as if nothing, according to leading experts.

Legislators who draft laws in secret are behaving like the king’s men who ignited the American Revolution. They can expect no less if they continue down such a dark road, many experts say.

What did the officials choose to draft law against by this nefarious method? Only the very palladium of liberty, the very thing the Revolution warned us to guard against, a bill to reduce and actually eliminate a right for keeping and bearing arms the public already legally keeps.

Along with a list of many of the most popular makes and models in use today, the bill includes broad descriptions of arms to cover an untold number of other modern and older firearms. Are they out of their minds?

Is it an excuse that they didn’t know what they were doing? Of course not. That is an aggravating factor.

These officials operate by consent of the governed, with rights of minorities protected. Laws are to be drafted in public, with input from experts and the public. They deliberately and with malice aforethought chose not to.

Infringement is banned by the Bill of Rights. This is not some debating point. Violation of the Bill of Rights is an offense against We the People, and throughout our history has earned punishment. Not just at the ballot box, but real punishment. Else, what value the Bill of Rights?

Requiring agents of the federal government, in this case, licensed federal firearms dealers (FFLs), to conduct paperwork and electronic examinations of private citizens which the agents are banned by law from doing, is a clever way to stop citizens from getting firearms. It is also malfeasance of the worst kind, and deserves punishment of the highest order. This isn’t just use-the-other-lunch-counter bigotry, this is the no-lunch-counter-for-you brand.

(Connecticut is requiring FFLs to conduct background checks on private firearm transfers, and offers to pay them. It is a federal offense for FFLs to use the NICS background check system for anything other than their own authorized business sales.)

But the worst offense remains drafting and proposing such treasonous poison in secret. Merely voting for it is no less serious an act. Legislators who participated in this infringement of the fundamental civil and human rights of the citizens of Connecticut act as enemies of American freedom whether they recognize it or not. This is not how Americans behave.

Using the acts of a madman to justify the acts of these madmen is reprehensible, immoral and corrupt. Worse, their failure to act in a way that might actually identify and curb future deranged monsters is a failure to accomplish their most rudimentary role. It is abrogation of their responsibility as elected officials. This is grounds for removal from office. r?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: absolutedespotism; banglist; bloodoftyrants; communism; corruption; cwii; democrats; govtabuse; guncontrol; gunlaw; gunlaws; guns; secondamendment; socialistdemocrats; tyranny; usurpations; waronliberty

1 posted on 04/09/2013 9:09:45 AM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

Can’t Wait till someone comes out and tells us ... We have to pass it to find out what is in it!


2 posted on 04/09/2013 9:11:18 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

But, but, but. “They” said it was agreed to by a bi-partisan committee. The republocrats should be run out of office just for being “knucklers”. Brainless cowards.


3 posted on 04/09/2013 9:14:38 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: lbryce

The same thing was done in New York State with the so-called “SAFE” Act. This seems to be modus operarandi for tyrants!


4 posted on 04/09/2013 9:19:16 AM PDT by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: lbryce
drafted 138 pages of gun law basically in secret, enacted it before it could be read and digested by those who signed it

Sounds like Obamacare...

5 posted on 04/09/2013 9:21:08 AM PDT by grobdriver
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To: rktman

and there shall be a time when those wishing to remain hidden shall be exposed. That Time Is Now. Thank You!


6 posted on 04/09/2013 9:22:40 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: lbryce

Abortion appears no where in the Constitution. Yet we’re told it’s a right that has to be protected.

If our government protected guns the way they protect abortion you would see:

1) Courts striking down all gun legislation.
2) Media would refuse to air any real arguments against guns. Moreover, Hollywood media heroes would fight against out of control gun regulators.
3) Government would fight any attempts at registering, regulating or tracking fire arms.
4) Laws banning the transport of guns over state borders would be thrown out.
5) People under the age of 18 could buy guns without their parents consent or knowledge.
6) The government would be supplying us all with guns and ammo, regardless of how poor you are.
7) Our schools would teach about guns and gun safety.
8) The government would crack down on protesters outside of gun stores.
9) All gun store records and receipts would be protected from outsiders on the grounds of “privacy”.

Note that most guns never kill or injure anyone.

Most abortions result in someone dying.

People injured or killed by guns include a large age range from 1 year old to 100 years old. Some of these people are injured because they are doing bad things.

People injured or killed by abortion include those who are 9 months and younger. The only crime they are committing is not being out of the womb.

***MORE CHILDREN DIE TO ABORTION EVERY YEAR THAN GUNS***

But no one talks about regulating abortion.

When those snarling, holier than thou, know-it-all libs begin lecturing you about guns - you now know what to tell them.


7 posted on 04/09/2013 9:24:24 AM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: lbryce

That’s how they do things. There is no longer a “democratic” process. We have a ruling elite that does whatever it wants and a brain-dead electorate that is more interested in the latest bathroom “joke” on two and a half men than what is happening in the USA and in the world.


8 posted on 04/09/2013 9:26:47 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: no-to-illegals

John “I don’t understand” McCain.


9 posted on 04/09/2013 9:28:09 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: grobdriver
"Sounds like Obamacare."


10 posted on 04/09/2013 9:32:18 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Poor John McCain. John is expecting a dear John letter, I think.


11 posted on 04/09/2013 9:40:06 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: lbryce; nutmeg; scoopscandal; 2Trievers; LoneGOPinCT; Rodney King; sorrisi; MrSparkys; ...
I was at a "town hall" style meeting last Tuesday night in Easton with CT State Rep John Shaban (R) and CT State Sen John McKinney (R), who was one of the select "gang of ~6" state senators who secretly drafted the bill.

John Shaban openly stated he had not received a copy of the bill, despite being scheduled to vote on it the next day.

McKinney couldn't answer a simple question 'what is the penalty if a person fails to register a newly defined assault weapon' after flipping through his printed copy for 10 minutes.

They both voted for the legislation. RINOs.

12 posted on 04/09/2013 9:45:50 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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13 posted on 04/09/2013 9:53:07 AM PDT by onyx
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To: lbryce
Using the acts of a madman to justify the acts of these madmen is reprehensible, immoral and corrupt. Worse, their failure to act in a way that might actually identify and curb future deranged monsters is a failure to accomplish their most rudimentary role. It is abrogation of their responsibility as elected officials. This is grounds for removal from office.

Well said!

Kind'a makes us wonder what they're trying to hide, eh?

14 posted on 04/09/2013 9:57:12 AM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: DTogo

I was at a Homeschool legislation issues meeting last night in Prospect with Rep. Lezlye Zupkus and she expressed disgust at the way the whole thing went down - she never was able to read the whole thing before the vote, but she read enough to vote NO.

My Rep (Noujaim) called me personally and told me he would vote NO, and he did.

So don’t lose heart - there are still a (small) handful of Republicans with integrity.


15 posted on 04/09/2013 10:08:14 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Psalm 73

Don’t give any guns up and don’t register anything. The time is rapidly approaching when you are going to need them.


16 posted on 04/09/2013 10:14:43 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Psalm 73

we need more than 40 senators.

Pehaps democrats who will “seek cover” by saying they will vote no because it does not go far enough.


17 posted on 04/09/2013 10:19:19 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Mouton
"Don’t give any guns up and don’t register anything."

Actually I traded all of my long guns, ammo, and mags for a table saw last December.
Only thing I have left is my handgun - cannot sell or trade those in Konnecticut without paperwork.
My wife and daughter know that we no longer discuss that topic outside of the house.

18 posted on 04/09/2013 10:29:09 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: lbryce

Legislators passing bills which haven’t been read is criminal. They need to be fired or more...

This is serious criminal behaviour and it _must_ be stopped.


19 posted on 04/09/2013 10:32:27 AM PDT by veracious
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To: lbryce

Communism working at what it does best.


20 posted on 04/09/2013 10:49:29 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: lbryce
"ended up requiring federally licensed agents in the state to violate federal law, or flatly deny citizens their rights"

Excellent! It can't pass constitutional muster, then.

21 posted on 04/09/2013 11:27:45 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: lbryce
But that’s as if nothing, according to leading experts.

Huh?

22 posted on 04/09/2013 11:53:48 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: DTogo
I can't stand these bills drafted in secret by various "gangs".

What happened to the "most transparent administration" that we were promised?

23 posted on 04/09/2013 2:57:35 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: lbryce

NO ONE will do anything about these infringements so why mention them? The people get the government and oppression they have asked for, they, the over, are also the enemy.

If the citizens allow this to pass they are eunuchs.


24 posted on 04/09/2013 6:07:20 PM PDT by WilliamRobert (God Bless Texas)
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To: DTogo; lbryce; nutmeg; scoopscandal; 2Trievers; LoneGOPinCT; Rodney King; sorrisi; MrSparkys
I got that email from Shaban explaining his vote for the legislation. He and I served on the Republican Town Committee for a number of years. This was my reply to him:

"Nothing in the bill you voted for would have prevented Newtown. It is a gun grab bill no matter which way you choose to equivocate on this matter.

"You voted to deprive your law abiding constituents of their Constitutionally protected liberty by trying to legislate away the common citizen’s ability to protect themselves with at least as much firepower as his assailant will be packing – who doesn’t give a crap about what the laws are in place for the law abiding anyway – because he is not law abiding by definition.

"For all your supposed fatherly, lawyerly, gun owning perspective, you really missed the big picture.

"You bent over and let a pack of whimpering media pussies and Democrat fascist jackals steal our Constitutionally protected liberty. You didn’t make law abiding Connecticut citizens any safer by restricting the number of bullets WE have to fire at out assailants.

"Hey there gun owner-legislator, you’re now only packing 10 rounds – you think your burglar won’t still be packing 30 or more in his mag when he comes to your house to rape and kill your wife? What turnip truck awarded you your law degree anyway?

"The State of Connecticut has now failed to remain law abiding with respect to the Constitution and the Constitutionality of this law and this law will be challenged and this law will be defeated.

"Thanks for raising the costs for the law abiding and lower our collective safety at the same time.

"Dan Carter got it right. You, Toni and John all got it wrong.

"I will remember your vote and will remind others as well come election time."

FReegards!


25 posted on 04/09/2013 6:41:27 PM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: DTogo

I was not aware of that meeting, so I didn’t go, but if I had gone I would have had a hard time controlling my anger at the filthy politicos who refused to stand up for our civil rights.


26 posted on 04/09/2013 8:11:17 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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