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Colo. Sheriff Alleges Shock Training to TheBlaze: DHS-Bound Official Warned Against ‘Christians
The Blaze ^ | 4/9/13 | Billy Hallowell

Posted on 04/09/2013 2:50:13 PM PDT by Nachum

This weekend, an email written by Ron Trowbridge, the undersheriff of Prowers County, Colorado, started sweeping some of the viral corners of the internet. It alleges that a Colorado State Police training encouraged law enforcement officials to look at Bible-believing Christians with intense skepticism.

At first glance, the startling allegations in the letter, which was first posted on the conservative site Red Statements, were seemingly unbelievable. But TheBlaze reached out to Trowbridge to confirm that he wrote the note and to speak further about its contents.

In sum, the undersheriff said that he, indeed, wrote it and that the version that has been published is entirely accurate to what he experienced at the training session. Here are the first two paragraphs of his note, which summarizes the problematic training in its entirety:

On April 1, 2013 I attended training in La Junta, Colorado hosted by the Colorado State Patrol (CSP). The training was from 12:00 pm to 4:00 pm and covered two topics, Sovereign Citizens, and Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs. I was pretty familiar with motorcycle gangs but since we often deal with the so-called sovereign citizen groups I was interested to see what they had to say. The group consisted of police officers, deputies, and CSP troopers. There were about 20 people in attendance.

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Full title: Colo. Sheriff Alleges Shock Training to TheBlaze: DHS-Bound Official Warned Against ‘Christians Who Take the Bible Literally’
1 posted on 04/09/2013 2:50:13 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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2 posted on 04/09/2013 2:50:37 PM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Wonder if they know what’s LITERALLY written in the Koran.

And how many muslims take it literally.


3 posted on 04/09/2013 2:55:41 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Nachum
I truly believe we are now living in the last of days. Not the 7 years tribulation, but the build up to it.

I cannot fathom any other explanation of this upside down world we are now living in.

4 posted on 04/09/2013 2:59:05 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Nachum

If true, all future decisions regarding our government should be filtered through this revelation. No elected official who isn’t calling for heads for this is not to be trusted (if this is true).


5 posted on 04/09/2013 3:01:15 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Nachum
CSP Trooper gives class in which he says that sovereign citizens views include:
6 posted on 04/09/2013 3:06:00 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Nachum
look at Bible-believing Christians with intense skepticism.

Isn't that what Hussein calls himself?

7 posted on 04/09/2013 3:10:55 PM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Libloather

If so, he doesn’t seem to take it “too seriously”.


8 posted on 04/09/2013 3:15:02 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Nachum

“Kluczynski explained why he believed these groups were dangerous saying they were angry over the election of a black president. When someone in the group suggested the failing economy was probably much more to blame, Kluczynski intimated that those who are not going along with the changes in America will need to be controlled by law enforcement.”

Disturbing in the extreme. Beyond Orwellian.


9 posted on 04/09/2013 3:15:55 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Nachum
Yep. DHS warned us about folks like this. They attend church on Sunday. Pray before meals. Visit you in the hospital when you're sick. Reach out to you when you've done wrong and landed in jail. They love all their neighbors, and will pray for whisky loving scum like me even though I'm often among the missing on Sundays. And, their entirely forgiving of those who trespass against them. Folks to be feared and carefully watched, eh? Meet an "enemy of the State"...
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10 posted on 04/09/2013 3:16:18 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: ConjunctionJunction; Nachum

Sovereign citizens may claim they are christians, but all Christians do NOT espouse the claims made by the sovereign citizens.

The sovereign citizen movement is extreme fringe, jailhouse lawyer type stuff.

Bad news.


11 posted on 04/09/2013 3:17:54 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: ConjunctionJunction

But that seems confused. Sovereign citizen theory is a form of tax revolt and is closer to anarchy than traditional Christian conservatism. Somebody has muddied the waters here and it needs to be sorted what part of this is ignorance and what part malice forethought. I would not be surprised if the Southern Poverty Law Center was involved.


12 posted on 04/09/2013 3:18:45 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Nachum

One officer that brings in a hidden video camera can verify this and bring DHS and possibly Obama down.


13 posted on 04/09/2013 3:18:48 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Nachum

There are some Sovereigns who don’t mind shooting it up with police at very random times, such as routine traffic stops. They’re a bit like the neo Nazis and Skinheads.

Tell me that our FReepers are not okay with this.


14 posted on 04/09/2013 3:22:00 PM PDT by lurk
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To: ConjunctionJunction; Nachum

those who believe America was founded on godly principles

Christians who take the Bible literally

“fundamentalists” [implied that this term applies to those people who take the Bible “too seriously”]

The above three items do NOT make one a sovereign citizen.

Trying to get out of paying all taxes, having no SSN, having no insurance or car registration or driving license, trying to have house title “allodial”, are some of the hallmarks of the sovereign citizen movement.

As I said, very bad.


15 posted on 04/09/2013 3:22:14 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Nachum

Sigh...what else is coming down the pike?


16 posted on 04/09/2013 3:23:19 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: lurk

Oh cr@p, that’s another thing to add to the list!

Bad and DANGEROUS ....


17 posted on 04/09/2013 3:24:40 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Inyo-Mono
Keep the faith. (Spoiler alert! I read the back of the book) It all turns out well in the end.
18 posted on 04/09/2013 3:26:16 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Nachum

bttt/bfl


19 posted on 04/09/2013 3:27:07 PM PDT by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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To: Viennacon

OMG.


20 posted on 04/09/2013 3:29:43 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Nachum

Colorado sheriffs are doing their best to make up for the state legislature’s lapses from American law, culture, history, and principles.


21 posted on 04/09/2013 3:32:24 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Nachum

The challenge they will have is I bet most LEOs fall into that category. (Bible Believing)


22 posted on 04/09/2013 3:32:45 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Nachum
Rather than telling officials to literally “go after” Christians, Trowbridge said that the trainer was alerting police and law enforcement to “be careful of these people,” as they are apparently at risk of joining the anti-government movement.

Kluczynski purportedly mentioned “fundamentalists” as well, but he didn’t delve into additional details surrounding what, exactly, he meant by the label. Trowbridge told TheBlaze that he was shocked that others in the room didn’t react more fervently to the insinuations being made during the presentation.

Totalitarian lies work best when they're kept to small groups - when fears are never quite fleshed out... It was done against the Jews in Germany... secret lies told about them...lies they couldn't refute because they never hit the light of day.

This is the same filth Hillary and Bill put out with their Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. It was more than a dodge to cover his lies about Monica... and Jennifer and the rest of the liberal trashed and tossed women... Luckily 'the vast right wing conspiracy was exposed to the light of day and everyone had a good laugh at liberal paranoia...

If these liars had anything - any facts whatsoever about Christian terrorists - or Jewish terrorists or Catholic terrorists ( all groups made the Army film) their butt boys at the New York Times would run it front page above the fold.

These liberal thugs can't risk giving this to reporters because in spite of the fact most reporters are liberals most of them are waaaay too professional to go along with this kind of scam...

If Newspaper reporters discovered these lies were targeting conservative citizens - and the only 'proof' of conservatives in large numbers being a 'danger' was 'my sister's ex-boyfriends mother's brother ... said he heard about a meeting..." They would catch it - and expose the liberal liars. The press might not cover both sides fairly, but they're not fools either.

If's time for the Weekly Standard, James O'Keefe or any Newspaper with a pair to look into this...

23 posted on 04/09/2013 3:34:25 PM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: Springfield Reformer
I would not be surprised if the Southern Poverty Law Center was involved.

I believe you are correct.

That hate group has had the ears of the Feds for a long time, and though they do track some genuine terrorist types, have lumped in an awful lot of folks on the Right.

24 posted on 04/09/2013 3:35:21 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: GOPJ
If these liars had anything - any facts whatsoever about Christian terrorists - or Jewish terrorists or Catholic terrorists ( all groups made the Army film) their butt boys at the New York Times would run it front page above the fold.

I must have missed something. What Army film was that?

25 posted on 04/09/2013 3:38:12 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Nachum

I think they also have a problem with those who take the Constitution literally.


26 posted on 04/09/2013 3:42:40 PM PDT by Starstruck (Question. What would the U.S. look like today if there was no 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Starstruck

They have a problem with everyone and anyone who considers themselves a free individual and not a Government slave. And they can’t wait until they can get rid of these troublemakers permanently.


27 posted on 04/09/2013 3:48:52 PM PDT by sport
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To: NoGrayZone
I was just wondering the same thing this morning as I drove to a meeting.

Things do seem to have transpired and slid further down the cesspool, warp speed.

I know society has been sliding gradually, thanks to public schools not teaching truth and facts in our schools, like real American History and the basics (used to be called the 3 R's, "reading, writing and 'rithmetic.")

Instead, it's all about Heather has Two Moms, Danny goes to a Gay Pride Parade with His Two Dads, Safe Sex, where to go for abortions, etc.

28 posted on 04/09/2013 4:02:23 PM PDT by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: Viennacon

This proves that the people cannot count on local cops.


29 posted on 04/09/2013 4:02:37 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: NoGrayZone

I agree. As a self-identified Christian fundamentalist, I’m interested to learn that I’m considered an enemy of the state now. If by “state” what’s really meant is the leftist totalitarian government in the making, then I plead guilty. What they don’t realise is that they really have nothing to worry about, because by the time their desired government comes into full bloom, all of their potential Christian enemies will be gone anyway. I think things like the man-made global warming scam are test runs for seeing just how quickly they can get millions of people to subscribe to mass hypnosis instead of believing their lying eyes. As in, how they’re going to explain away the disappearance of Christians in spite of the answer being right there in front of their faces for thousands of years, in the Bible.


30 posted on 04/09/2013 4:04:13 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: WildHighlander57
And conventional Christian fundamentalists don't believe that we can, through violence or other means, change the inevitability of prophecy anyway. That doesn't mean we don't do our civic duty, but we know that nothing will alter the course of prophecy in the big picture.
31 posted on 04/09/2013 4:11:20 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: PowderMonkey

I wish the back of the book would hurry up, sort of...I don’t want to wish ill, just in case I’m not as ready as I thought I was.


32 posted on 04/09/2013 4:11:33 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Smokin' Joe

I think it was on Drudge... I’ll go take a look ... in the meantime check this out:

Army now Labels Evangelical Christians, Catholics and Some Jews ‘Religious Extremists’...?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3005498/posts?page=1


33 posted on 04/09/2013 4:12:57 PM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I think it was on Drudge... I’ll go take a look ... in the meantime check this out:

Army now Labels Evangelical Christians, Catholics and Some Jews ‘Religious Extremists’...?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3005498/posts?page=1


34 posted on 04/09/2013 4:18:51 PM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: Nachum

I am really shocked that this man spoke up. He works in a very “closed” community. By that I mean...’family’ matters are kept private. That’s the personality of the entire area.

A good many of the ‘people of importance’ in that community are committed christians and so with that in mind, the fact that anybody spoke out at all means that they are a whole lot more concerned than they are letting on. It means that this man has community support behind him or else he’d be out of a job PDQ.

This is a relatively conservative place. But, they HAVE had a few there who are ‘sovereign citizens’. They pretty much keep to themselves.

This really should concern us all to the max folks, because it looks like Laos is upon us, or about to be. A good many of us are old enough that we can say ‘damn the consequences’ but we have young kids and grandkids who are going to face hell, for sure. Will they have the wherewithall to water the tree? I doubt it. :(

I know a lot of you don’t know me very well at all, so with that in mind, PLEASE open your eyes, and ears and see. If nothing else, pray..for this man, for this community, and for all of us. We all need truth, grace, wisdom, strength...all from G-d.


35 posted on 04/09/2013 4:27:18 PM PDT by PrairieLady2
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To: Smokin' Joe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocVtG53r0mw&list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg&index=3

Army Taught Christians Are Terrorist


36 posted on 04/09/2013 4:31:12 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: WildHighlander57; Nachum; Springfield Reformer

Yes, this Trooper is very confused about what the sovereign citizen movement believes. This is not good. :(

And now look at the latest:

An Army Lt. Col. is sending out an e-mail listing American Family Association and the Family Research Council as “domestic hate groups” because they oppose same sex marriage:

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/army-email-labels-christian-ministries-as-domestic-hate-groups.html


37 posted on 04/09/2013 4:53:21 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Nachum
The training referenced in the Undersheriff’s letter was not done in coordination with DHS and no DHS training materials were part of the prepared presentation.

Anybody want to bet?

Regards,
GtG

38 posted on 04/09/2013 4:55:16 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: mrsmel
I don't believe in the disappearance of Christians. Reading my Bible, He tells us to be “waiting like a thief in the night”.

I've read the scripture. I forget the term, but those that start disappearing seem to be random, which is why He tells us to be ready for that “thief of the night”.

What if an unrepentative sinner is taken? That one will be judged on Judgement Day.

He states (I'm going off a terrible memory here) 2 maids, 1 will be taken and the other left.

From what I have studied in His words, it seems to be random, which is why He states “to be ready for a thief in the night”....for you never know when it comes.

There is just too much upside down, darkside cr@p going on now, which seems to be excelerating.

People can call me paranoid, Jesus Thumper, whatever. I don't care.

It's here whether we like it or not.

39 posted on 04/09/2013 5:19:29 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Nachum

So.....here’s the thing. Either that “class” was full of atheists, or a bunch of pu**ies.

I have no use for either.


40 posted on 04/09/2013 6:15:41 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Talking points identical to the SPLC. Note how convincing, to the uninitiated, the attempt to link anti-homosexuality with the kkk:

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/family-research-council

But here’s a reorientation to reality from FRC:

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=LH05F09

and this hate-mongering is quite effective, as it produced a lefty shootist, never mentioned by the MSM, targeting those eeeevil FRC people:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/katie-yoder/2013/02/07/networks-ignore-frc-shooter-s-use-splc-hate-map

So this is a Class A propaganda operation. Crosslinking a target group with some widely recognized symbol of moral revulsion, like the kkk, is an explicit attempt at emotional programming. It’s called bracketing, and the SPLC gang is very good at it, which I’m sure is a factor in how they have been able to weasel their way into high places, as the original story appears to demonstrate. We need a strategy to counter this. Not a little one, a big one. Go big or go home, I always say.


41 posted on 04/09/2013 8:09:24 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: GOPJ
From discussion at the link you provided,

I know the Army is stating they did not have anything to do with this but someone published this as if it were policy. Things look ugly to me no matter how you cut it.

It was a slide in a powerpoint presentation.

Sure sounds like a familiar discussion, doesn't it?

Part of the seminar, but officially deniable.

Presented as policy, but not official policy...etc.

42 posted on 04/09/2013 11:08:42 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Nachum
W.W.T.A.C.D. - "What would the Anti-Christ Do?"

I'm having a tough time coming up with something different.

43 posted on 04/10/2013 4:47:15 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Smokin' Joe

FYI

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/04/10/Not-an-Isolated-Incident-US-Army-Officer-Smears-Christian-Groups-In-Email-to-Subordinates

...the Army instructor in Pennsylvania who labeled Evangelical Christians, Catholics, Orthodox Jews and Mormons “religious extremists” alongside Hamas and al Qaeda during an Army Reserve Equal Opportunity training brief on extremism....


44 posted on 04/10/2013 5:33:09 PM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: Saoirise

‘Christians Who Take the Bible Literally’

Dear Janet,

Please add my name to your list on this one.


45 posted on 04/10/2013 8:51:11 PM PDT by 444Flyer (MARANATHA!)
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