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G.O.P. Senators Signal Possible Breakthrough in Gun Debate
NYTimes ^ | 4/9/2013 | JONATHAN WEISMAN and JENNIFER STEINHAUER

Posted on 04/09/2013 3:21:36 PM PDT by South40

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To: South40

I reckon my Dad thought males were more stubborn, but what would I know about THAT?

LOL


51 posted on 04/09/2013 4:25:43 PM PDT by onyx
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To: onyx

lol! Point taken.


52 posted on 04/09/2013 4:28:48 PM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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To: OneWingedShark
Unfortunately, Republicans also want absolute power: remember the Patriot Act. And when was the last time you heard any serious talk, in either main party, about repealing GCA and/or NFA? What about third parties?

The patriot Act, to the extent that it violated the 4th and 5th Amendments was wrong and should be repealed. GCA/NFA violate the 2nd Amendment and should be repealed - let people have silencers and short-barreled rifles, but punish them severely if they use any weapons for crime. And, no, I don't hear the GOP leadership standing up for the Constitution as much as they should. The GOP is not nearly as bad as the Democrats, but they make no effort to recover lost freedoms when they have an opportunity.

53 posted on 04/09/2013 4:30:55 PM PDT by Pollster1 (A war can only be just if it is fought with a reasonable chance of success.)
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To: dfwgator

At this point I really cannot argue with that statement.

Hope the RNC sends letters asking for money.....I am running low on toilet paper.


54 posted on 04/09/2013 4:36:30 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Feckless

This is from the NY times.

All of you are believing anything they say?

how long have you all been on this site?


55 posted on 04/09/2013 4:59:17 PM PDT by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: Red in Blue PA

yeah the NY times would never think of dividing Republicans with fake info would they?


56 posted on 04/09/2013 5:00:00 PM PDT by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: k4gypsyrose

what do you base that on , this article from the NY times?

pitiful


57 posted on 04/09/2013 5:04:31 PM PDT by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: South40
"I wonder how the NRA views its history of supporting Harry Reid now."

We received a message from the NRA in the last day or two about legislation clarifying information that goes into NICS records or something to that effect.


58 posted on 04/09/2013 5:05:17 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: rurgan

Long time GI!


59 posted on 04/09/2013 5:07:55 PM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: South40

Looks like the GOP is about to cave again. Here is hoping the House GOP stands firm..


60 posted on 04/09/2013 5:18:28 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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To: South40

Barf. Breakthrough on the gun debate to means to me the Democrats caved and want to repeal all existing gun laws.


61 posted on 04/09/2013 5:20:44 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: South40

Surrender my rights, by all means gentlemen, surrender my rights. It’s not going to give you any problem, is it.


62 posted on 04/09/2013 5:21:43 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Feckless

63 posted on 04/09/2013 5:25:42 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Life. Liberty. Property. Family. Sovereignty. Security. Borders. The Constitutional Oath.)
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To: Pollster1

I say we send the NYT and all of the RINOS an empty shell casing.


64 posted on 04/09/2013 5:47:48 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: The Shrew

I think your note is a great template for me to send to my senator and the RNC.

I am absolutely livid that you are even considering the possibility of allowing a vote on legislation offered by monster gun-grabber Senator Harry Reid. Has the GOP learned nothing from the last election? I want to know if you plan on supporting Harry Reid over your constituents.

I want someone’s head on a plate. Will it be yours at the next election? Will you contribute to fortifying the conservative party or will you be a pretend conservative, voting with the liberals. I want to see you, in the news, in the papers, on tv and youtube, fiercely and publicly defending my constitutional rights or I want your resignation. If you don’t do either, I will work tirelessly to help unseat you at the earliest possible moment. Which is it going to be?

Sincerely,

Austin Aero


65 posted on 04/09/2013 5:48:40 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: MissesBush
Possible Breakthrough in Gun Debate, MissesBush wrote: Mr. Reid, who earlier Tuesday invoked his own father’s suicide by gunshot to implore consideration of the legislation

If gave birth to a son that turned out like Harry Reid, I'll kill myself as well.

66 posted on 04/09/2013 6:02:39 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The Progs are pushing for war. Be ready.)
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To: Timber Rattler
“This is obviously an important issue,” Ms. Ayotte said. “We have a variety of views, and we should have an open vote.”

Keep in mind that his very same idea is why her predecesser voted ObamaCare out of committee.

Do these people ever learn a damn thing.

67 posted on 04/09/2013 6:06:11 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The Progs are pushing for war. Be ready.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Actually the filibuster was watered down to numbers because nobody thought he’d actually do it.


68 posted on 04/09/2013 6:06:32 PM PDT by RangerHAAF
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To: South40

It’s all political theater.

The House of Representatives won’t pass a gun bill.


69 posted on 04/09/2013 6:08:49 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

You trust Boehner more than I do.


70 posted on 04/09/2013 6:13:33 PM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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“Under the measure, records of gun sales would be kept, but Ms. Collins said she was satisfied that those records could in no way be compiled into a national gun registry, a fear gun rights groups have been voicing.”

BS!!! Just to have records is compiling into a national gun registry. It will be computerized records and can be merged and sorted meaning they have a database.

History is replete with examples of how it works:

1. Registration

2. Confiscation

3. Extermination

They all said it was impossible to happen to them.

71 posted on 04/09/2013 6:21:00 PM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: umgud

Crime will never go away.

As long as there are people, some will prey on the others. Or at least make life harder for everyone. And I’m afraid there will always be psychopaths ready to commit mass murder.

But I am not a psychopath, I’ve never hurt a fly, so I’m unsure how restricting my 2A right solves this problem.


72 posted on 04/09/2013 6:22:19 PM PDT by Gefreiter
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To: South40

It doesn’t hurt for everyone to remember this is the New York Times, and they have a vested interest in demoralizing us.


73 posted on 04/09/2013 6:26:06 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: South40

Nope. I trust that congressional districts are relatively small.


74 posted on 04/09/2013 6:38:17 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: TurboZamboni

What if he had Democrated himself to death?


75 posted on 04/09/2013 6:46:13 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: DesertRhino

What you typed is logical and patently obvious, so that simply means this bill is defacto registration.


76 posted on 04/09/2013 6:56:06 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: South40

“We’re moving forward on this bill”

You’re moving forward on a lot more than this bill, Dildo. You’re setting the stage for tyranny.

And since HE brought it up, it’s fair game: too bad his dad slept with his mom BEFORE committing suicide.


77 posted on 04/09/2013 7:12:02 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks South40.
...Reid, who earlier Tuesday invoked his own father’s suicide by gunshot to implore consideration of the legislation...
...Non-Sequitur Nonsense Ping.


78 posted on 04/09/2013 7:12:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: South40

We are about to get screwed one more time. If they the politicians[both Republican and Democrat] with redefining the Second Amendment. a/k/a “Background Checks”. We are screwed. Because I will gurantee that they will find somethimg in the “background” of everyone that is not on their approved list to disqualify them from purchasing a firearm. At its best, this is not going to end well. They are determined, come hell or high water, to do what they have in mind. Are we just as determined?

Anytime RINOs get together the result is not good for us.


79 posted on 04/09/2013 7:25:01 PM PDT by sport
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To: goldstategop

rinos and gop elite leadership, and democrat liberals and socialists - two sides of the same coin.


80 posted on 04/09/2013 7:31:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: South40
I am sorry, but it about time somebody says this:

DEATH to any Senator who votes to take 2nd Amendment rights. Treason can be Constitutionally punished by death, as it does not work "corruption of blood" beyond the life of the convicted.

81 posted on 04/09/2013 7:59:02 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: South40
SNBI
82 posted on 04/09/2013 8:01:02 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: kinsman redeemer

Infringe Verb
Actively break the terms of (a law, agreement, etc.): “infringe a copyright”.
Act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on: “infringe on his privacy”.


83 posted on 04/09/2013 8:04:33 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: kinsman redeemer

No limitation.


84 posted on 04/09/2013 8:06:09 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: South40

We have to primary all the RINOs. And once we’re in, close the damn primaries!


85 posted on 04/09/2013 8:11:08 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: goldstategop
The GOP can’t be trusted to back the Second Amendment.

Ummmmm YUP. That's pretty much why I left the party as of January this year. After 37 years of loyal service and many donations I have dumped them to become an independent! I must say, I thought I'd be pretty "down" about it all, but I've never felt freer.

86 posted on 04/09/2013 8:27:55 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: South40

Don’t worry: this will never pass. There are a lot of Democrats from conservative districts who will be in tough elections. So calm down.

-the smartest Republicans and conservatives in the room, March 2010 right before Obamacare passed....


87 posted on 04/09/2013 8:50:01 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Zhang Fei

I confess I like Palin too but I think anyhow

The salacious crap in that book flared her off..

Now ....no one really


88 posted on 04/09/2013 10:38:52 PM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: Timber Rattler

Ayotte has often acted in tandem with Graham and McCain.


89 posted on 04/10/2013 12:06:41 AM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE MY DREAMS)
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To: unixfox
I say we send the NYT and all of the RINOS an empty shell casing.

Don't. They are sissies who would take that as a threat - it would give them the vapors. Better to be a little more subtle and think about how people who hate freedom would spin our effort. Remember, we are dealing with pure evil; they are not in any way constrained by integrity.

90 posted on 04/10/2013 3:11:44 AM PDT by Pollster1 (A war can only be just if it is fought with a reasonable chance of success.)
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To: goldstategop

Well the gop certainly isn’t a conservative party.
They lost me that’s for sure.
Dem lite is more like, let’s go along to get along cause we all be making lots of money.
Hell with em.


91 posted on 04/10/2013 4:17:04 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: goldstategop

If they cave on this one, I am officially off the grid and done with the Republicans. Never vote again, just let them all go down the crapper with the rest of the country. EVERY important vote, they give in, talk a big game, then give up. I’m done, let the country go full communist, it’s what they deserve. Unfortunately my children and grandchildren will have to fight it.


92 posted on 04/10/2013 4:35:43 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: South40
the legislation, which would expand background checks for gun buyers, bolster school safety...

Wow.
"Bolster school safety"?
Please, pray tell,
how?

93 posted on 04/10/2013 5:32:32 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: South40
Several Senate Republicans on Tuesday came out publicly against filibustering the first major gun control legislation since 1993

Somebody please remind these jackwagons what happened in 1994.

94 posted on 04/10/2013 7:57:45 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: wny
What part of “...shall not be infringed...” Don’t these pukes undestand?

The words.

95 posted on 04/10/2013 8:56:15 AM PDT by Don Joe ([expletive deleted])
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To: South40

Here’s some information about about a message received from the NRA yesterday. The NRA is right. The Senate Bill is an improvement over current law that gives so-called mental health professionals too much individual discretion. Tell Senators to support the Bill. It requires more due process than currently exists in law and policies. It requires that more about an accused individual’s mental incompetence be actually proven, and it respects remedies for the accused/cured.

S. 480: NICS Reporting Improvement Act of 2013
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s480/text


96 posted on 04/10/2013 11:20:49 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: South40

Oppose all attempts to legislate more background checks, BTW.


97 posted on 04/10/2013 11:29:17 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop
The NRA is right. The Senate Bill is an improvement over current law that gives so-called mental health professionals too much individual discretion.

NRA Fires Back Gun rights group to oppose Manchin, Toomey background check bill

98 posted on 04/10/2013 1:16:19 PM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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