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Call From "Tea Party Patriots"
phone Call | 4/9/2013 | Me!

Posted on 04/09/2013 5:34:50 PM PDT by NoGrayZone

Just hung up, well, they hung up on me, from someone called "Tea Party Patriots".

Of course they wanted money, touted the Constitution, etc.

I told this woman the most important thing right now is the 2nd amendment, and where in these few issues she was spewing about fell.

She started to speak of the Constitution, etc....I cut her off stating they are trying to take away our guns. Registration leads to confiscation; hence, termination.

She skirted around this but I would not allow her. I again asked her WHERE does the right to bear arms fit in and again, she gave me the run around.

I advised her if she wanted to make any progress with her "phone calls" that should be the #1 issue.

I reminded her once again....registration leads to confiscation.....then termination.

She hung up on me.

Anyone get any similar calls?


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; guncontrol; money; secondamendment; teaparty; teapartyexpress; teapartypatriots; vanity
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1 posted on 04/09/2013 5:34:50 PM PDT by NoGrayZone
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To: NoGrayZone

There is a group out there that goes by the name of Tea Party Patriots. I wonder how you got on their call list?


2 posted on 04/09/2013 5:39:51 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: NoGrayZone

I didn’t know that the tea party was getting involved in 2nd amendment issues. Sounds more like someone is using the name for cover.


3 posted on 04/09/2013 5:43:15 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Probably because I’m on several Tea Party lists.

As well as a donor for the Tea Party.

I’ve also called many upon many congress critters leaving my name and number.

I recall a recent thread about the SS gathering info on all of us.


4 posted on 04/09/2013 5:45:28 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Not me, but I dumped the hardline phone a couple months ago and if I don’t recognize an incoming call on my cell, I don’t answer.

I am done spending money on any of this nightmare.


5 posted on 04/09/2013 5:45:39 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

The Tea Party is the Constitution. If you’re involved in the Tea Party in any way, they have your info.


6 posted on 04/09/2013 5:47:06 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Gator113

I don’t have a hardline, just my cell.

Didn’t McConnell just say something about the meeting being rigged?


7 posted on 04/09/2013 5:48:48 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone

So, what was the point of being nasty with a telemarketer for the Tea Party Patriots?

You realize that conservative organizations hire telemarketers just like everyone else, and they aren’t all as well versed on every issue as maybe you are.

You either think the Tea Party Patriots are a good cause or you don’t, there was no reason to get snippy with her.


8 posted on 04/09/2013 5:49:09 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: NoGrayZone

Sounds like you’re on the “will donate money” list. :(

Their web site says they stand for “Constitutionally Limited Government”, so I don’t know why they wouldn’t agree on the 2nd Amendment. Probably outside of the caller’s script, though.


9 posted on 04/09/2013 5:49:30 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ConjunctionJunction

It is well within the rules of the stinkin rat party that they would falsely take your money. Hell, that applies to the RINOs as well. Beware!!


10 posted on 04/09/2013 5:51:23 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: SgtHooper

I agree. I do not give money to organizations that call me. Never know who they really are.


11 posted on 04/09/2013 5:55:23 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Longbow1969

I got snippy because taking away our right to defend ourselves is front and foremost.

I did not post the entire conversation. I advised her if she wanted people to listen, the 2nd amendment should be #1 on the list.

History. History tells us all we need to know. Obviously she had NO idea what she was asking of me, except for money, and when questioned she hung up on me.

Tells me all I need to know.


12 posted on 04/09/2013 5:58:37 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone
Hiya ;-)

Whoever 'they' are, I end up deleting 3 or 4 beg-e-mails per week from 'em.

Re the phone calls:   Digitone Call Blocker

I know things are tight all over, but it's worth every penny.

That after exploring methods of causing permanent hearing loss to spam callers; but that would have required time out of my day, and that little box above handles it w/o intervention.

cheers

13 posted on 04/09/2013 5:59:27 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: NoGrayZone

Okay. Maybe Syncro can chime in because IIRC, he is involved with the party Express. Beware of teaparty.net and TPNN.. ‘tea parties’names have been hijacked and are just fund raising scams, run by lobbyists. They use only the internet..because it costs them nothing. I’m starting to wonder if they’ve all been hijacked!

[snip]Tea Party News Network is in cohorts with TheTeaParty.net, a clone of The Tea Party Patriots whose main purpose is to make money and get names and email addys of tea partiers.

Both have been quite successful in those areas.

And they both have tried their best to be seen as THE leaders of the Tea Party Movement.

The TPP were quite aggressive when they started up, and attacked The Tea Party Express and sent emails to all their signups denigrating the TPX.

Probably because the TPX was doing high profile nationwide tours in order to promote tea party principles and TPP wanted all the attention and...well...money.

The guy that started theteaparty.net (Todd Cefaratti, Freedom Organizer) is associated with the Tea Party News Network and ironically enough they both have the same address....in a “virtual” office space in DC right down the street from the White House. $149 a month.

It’s only natural that they would diss Palin, who is a stand up Tea Party type of individual.

There is more information showing that these people are outside of conservatism, and don’t adhere to Tea Party principles...unless as a cover to make money.

They begged for extra money before CPAC to “protect” Scottie Nell Hughes because the nasty leftists were threatening her, or so they say.

Here’s a link to a thread here at FR where Cefaratti introduced himself to Free Republic as a tea party guy. He is so full of himself he said that this blog...Free Republic...”was started to look in to the validity of our organization”

He was called on many falsehoods, such as saying he did a nationwide bus tour.

He was referring to the Tea Party Express tour, which he had NOTHING to do with.

He slunk away from FR and went on to make money and a “name” for himself.

And here he is with another organization and hyping his orgs as THE TEA PARTY!

The Tea Party Movement is alive and well in spite of those that try to co-opt and destroy it.

It’s no surprise that they want to marginalize Palin, like the GOPe and liberals have been doing for some time. Not going to work.
29 posted on Tue Mar 26 19:53:30 2013 by Syncro

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3001068/posts?page=29#29


14 posted on 04/09/2013 6:04:13 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: ConjunctionJunction
"Their web site says they stand for “Constitutionally Limited Government”, so I don’t know why they wouldn't’t agree on the 2nd Amendment. Probably outside of the caller’s script, though."

The 2nd Admendment is a very "hot topic" right now. If they were truly Constitutionalists, would that NOT be their 1st priority?

15 posted on 04/09/2013 6:04:25 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone

You would think.


16 posted on 04/09/2013 6:06:53 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: NoGrayZone

My Caller ID showed “TPP” the other day.
I answered—it was the Tea Party Patriots...he said.

Wanted money. No surprise.

But, I was put off by his impatience with anything I wanted to say. (had to say I was in dyer straits, $$$-wise)

At first, I was p.o.’d by his demeanor, but then thought he’s a volunteer and couldn’t spend much $$$ on phone calls to folks.

But, now...maybe something’s suspicious.

I AM the Tea Party—but will be wary in the future. Maybe give a little to those that are local.


17 posted on 04/09/2013 6:08:08 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: AuntB

Thanks, AuntB.


18 posted on 04/09/2013 6:11:28 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: AuntB

Tea Party Express I’m all for. This is the 1st time I received a call from DC USA 202-800-8260.

I thought it was from a congress critter, which is why I answered.

When I started to question her, she had no answers, except from her “dialogue’.

Then she hung up on me.


19 posted on 04/09/2013 6:13:52 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone
I got snippy because taking away our right to defend ourselves is front and foremost

Yes, for some groups like the NRA. Others deal more with tax issues, or the pro-life cause, or protecting marriage, etc.

History. History tells us all we need to know. Obviously she had NO idea what she was asking of me, except for money, and when questioned she hung up on me.

That's because she's not a historian, she's a telemarketer. Organizations hire these people to help fund raise money. She uses a script like most telemarketers do. You got all nasty with her so she just hung up. Can't say I blame her.

20 posted on 04/09/2013 6:15:12 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: NoGrayZone
I advised her if she wanted people to listen, the 2nd amendment should be #1 on the list.

We need to refer to it as the US Constitution and not pick and choose sections of it. That's how we got to where we're at. John McCain asks "what are you afraid of?"

It's the US Constitution. Period!

21 posted on 04/09/2013 6:15:28 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Mortrey

That is exactly what I experienced.....the impatience from what I had to say.

RED FLAG!


22 posted on 04/09/2013 6:16:06 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: tsowellfan
I understand what you are saying....however, our right to bear arms is 1st and foremost at the moment.

They want us to register. Registration leads to confiscation, which leads to mass slaughter.

History of ALL tyrants began this way.

23 posted on 04/09/2013 6:21:19 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Mortrey
Many of yesterday's Tea Party have joined the “Birther” Movement because they feel that ALL parts of the US Constitution are important.

Anybody who wonders why there are no longer the BIG Tea Party Rallies like there was before need to realize that it's hard to organise rallies against leaders whose legitimacy is in question. Resolve this issue and I guarantee you WILL again see the HUGE Tea Party Rallies come back against Big Government and High Taxes.

Why rally against those we question should even be in power?

24 posted on 04/09/2013 6:22:44 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: NoGrayZone

Thanks for posting this topic, NoGray.

Seems it needed coverage. Opened my eyes. I’m a sucker for anything Tea Party—went to the first one on the steps of the capitol in Atlanta, Feb, 2009, in the rain.

I salute you.


25 posted on 04/09/2013 6:23:25 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Longbow1969

If you’re calling me, begging for money, you best have ALL your facts straight.

If you don’t then yes, I will treat you like EVERY other telemarketer.

You don’t like it, don’t take the job.


26 posted on 04/09/2013 6:24:01 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone

I recall some news reports around election time last year of ‘fake’ calls using the Tea Party references to raise money.

==

Be cautious of anyone calling as fundraisers. When I had a landline, I frequently got calls from the Fraternal Order of Police or Sheriffs, etc.


27 posted on 04/09/2013 6:29:51 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: NoGrayZone

The argument in the Senate should be: Do we continue with the US Constitution or do we throw it out and start a new one?

THIS is what it’s all about and yes it’s true History of ALL tyrants began this way but the truth is, we let this pResident trample on the US Constitution so much (thank you, John Boehner) that we’re now suddenly expecting that it stop?

There should be no gun debate from this pResident who wants background checks while he spent millions hiding his own past to the point where many question whether or not he’s even legally eligible to be POTUS.

A lot of questions about this man, none of them resolved yet he’s in his 5th year in the WH.

Very UN-American


28 posted on 04/09/2013 6:30:06 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Mortrey

Didn’t expect that, so thanks!

I just wanted to alert anyone who receives a call from “the Tea Party anything” to question them.

Matthew 7:17-21 -

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.


29 posted on 04/09/2013 6:30:51 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Longbow1969; NoGrayZone

“That’s because she’s not a historian, she’s a telemarketer. Organizations hire these people to help fund raise money.”

You just nailed the problem...THESE are professional lobbyists hijacking he TEA PARTY label. Grass root orgs, which is what the Tea party is supposed to be, would have volunteers, not paid hacks with a ‘virtual office’ on the east coast like teaparty.net & TPNN have...and it’s the same ‘virtual’ office for $149 a month.


30 posted on 04/09/2013 6:34:03 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: TomGuy

Actually, that was the 1st thing I thought of, which is why I wasn’t so nice.

At 1st I was, hearing “Tea Party”; however, once I brought up the 2nd Amendment it was all down hill from there.


31 posted on 04/09/2013 6:35:03 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Suddenly the penny dropped.

Bloomberg and his anti-gun organization are doing the equivalent of “push polling”, except it really does cross over the line to “wire fraud”.

He is using the same technique that George Soros did in setting up fake Catholic organizations, often with no Catholics in them, then trying to solicit donations from Catholics. The intent was that Catholics would unknowingly pay for the anti-Catholic agenda, thinking they were giving money to a pro-Catholic organization.

Importantly, any Catholic who mistakenly sent them money was listed as a “Catholic supporter” of the anti-Catholic organization.

In this case, Bloomberg’s group announced it was planning to do something like almost a year ago. The emphasis is to “close the gun show loophole”, with mandated background checks. They planned TV and radio ads, fake polls, and other low rent dirty political tricks.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mayors-against-illegal-guns-launch-new-national-campaign-to-close-the-gun-show-loophole-91601764.html


32 posted on 04/09/2013 6:37:37 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: tsowellfan

Not only is this thing UN-American, it is, to me, simply evil.

Perhaps a minion to the set up of the anti-christ.

My only solace (Lord forgive me) is that it will be tossed away like month old garbage.....as ALL evil should be.


33 posted on 04/09/2013 6:39:38 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone
If you’re calling me, begging for money, you best have ALL your facts straight.

Good grief, if they are paid these people make maybe minimum wage + commission. Otherwise they could be volunteers. They're telemarketers not history majors. They don't decide what issues the organization is focusing on at the moment. They don't need a lecture from you. They call from a list and have a script. The Tea Party Patriots is a good organization. If you don't want to give them anything right now, just say no thanks. If you don't want them calling again, ask if they'll remove you from their list. They are a political organization so they don't have too, but maybe they will.

34 posted on 04/09/2013 6:41:09 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: NoGrayZone

Mark Levin EXPLODES!!: “An Up And Down Vote On The 2nd Amendment Is Unconstitutional!”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmPatzJa63k


35 posted on 04/09/2013 6:42:20 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: All

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


36 posted on 04/09/2013 6:43:59 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Longbow1969; AuntB
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3006030/posts?page=14#14

Take a look at that post. These people are simply NOT trying to sell you a product.

The Tea Party IS NOT a product but a collective group of people against the tyranny our government whom is trying to shove up our collective butts.

If you cannot disingue between the two perhaps you belong on another site.

37 posted on 04/09/2013 6:52:26 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: tomkat

That looks interesting.


38 posted on 04/09/2013 6:58:25 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: NoGrayZone
The Tea Party IS NOT a product but a collective group of people against the tyranny our government whom is trying to shove up our collective butts.

What is your problem? There are LOTS of TEA Party groups - from local to national. And many/most of them RAISE MONEY to fund the cause.

Here is the Tea Party Patriots:

http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

And here is their wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_Patriots

There is nothing with them. They are a good organization. You don't have to contribute. Perhaps you'd prefer to give your money to the NRA right now since the left is pushing hard on gun control. There are LOTS of pressing issues. Everything from stopping new gun control, to protecting marriage, to derailing Obamacare. Pick your cause and give what you can. There is no reason for you to be a jerk to the telemarketer for the Tea Party Patriots. Good grief.

39 posted on 04/09/2013 7:01:28 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Cyber Liberty

I have no affiliation whatsoever .. it just works like a champ !


40 posted on 04/09/2013 7:01:31 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: tomkat

I’ve been on the edge of yanking the landline for months, and a gadget like that just might save it. There are a few choice telemarketers whom I’d take great pressure in pressing the “Block” button (twice) on.

I have it held in another Firefox tab until I can show it to Mrs. Liberty.


41 posted on 04/09/2013 7:06:17 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: tsowellfan

I can’t see this ending well.

Lord please be with us.

Through His name, Jesus Christ, Amen.


42 posted on 04/09/2013 7:07:18 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: tomkat

“Pressure” s/b “Pleasure.” Danged auto-correct.


43 posted on 04/09/2013 7:08:14 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Give me a mail shout if you take the plunge .. I’m no expert, but can confirm/help with the basics from having owned/used it for several months.


44 posted on 04/09/2013 7:15:41 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: ConjunctionJunction
I was called by them for a donation on Friday last week.

Told them I don't respond to phone calls asking for donations no matter who they claim to be.

45 posted on 04/09/2013 7:29:41 PM PDT by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: NoGrayZone

I am getting spammed with calls from TPP and Tea Party Patriots. I’ve blocked them. You don’t know who you are really talking to when someone like this calls you.


46 posted on 04/09/2013 7:32:01 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: NoGrayZone

I just lost my electric for 3-4 minutes. I am using my phone now. I can’t get on the Internet from my computer. I called several peeps in my hood and they are fine . Will reboot


47 posted on 04/09/2013 7:37:00 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone

I got a call from a TEA party lady yesterday and I hung up on her because I will send money when I have it to send, but to worthy local organizations. (Yes, she blabbed about the Constitution.) I hate it when grass roots groups rally around a cause and then find a way to perpetuate their victimhood into a non-profit (Oh, we’re having a national convention, send money so we can pay for it). No different from government orgs that outlive their usefulness but then keep on going.


48 posted on 04/09/2013 7:38:19 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.cafepress.com/westernwis)
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To: AuntB

Thank you for outlining this history. Very helpful in evaluating who is asking for donations.


49 posted on 04/09/2013 7:41:04 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: antceecee

Holy carp, I can’t get onto my Internet!


50 posted on 04/09/2013 7:49:48 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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