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Secret Transmission Detected from North Korea [Have you heard anything unusual on shortwave bands?]
intellihub.com ^ | April 8, 2013 | Olav Phillips

Posted on 04/09/2013 6:18:35 PM PDT by matt1234

Within hours of South Korean news sources breaking a story that several Sang-Ho class submarines had disappeared from their North Korean bases, a ham radio operator named Tim, picked up a “numbers station” broadcasting on the same frequency as “The Voice of Korea” propaganda station. What makes this even more interesting is that at the tail end of the numbers transmission there was a long duration digital transmission as well.

So why is this important and alarming?

There are several reasons why this new development is particularly alarming. The first being the existence of the numbers station coming online shortly after the submarines put to sea, but more importantly is the digital transmission apparently tacked onto the end of the transmission and the ramifications of that transmission.

Numbers Station?

Throughout the Cold War numbers stations were used to convey encrypted messages to covert operatives. The station would come online broadcast a series of numbers, possibly multiple times, then disappear into the darkness. Those numbers were used as coded messages to be decrypted on the other end by the in country operative. Examples of these numbers stations can be found at The Conet Project Archives. So what makes this number station significant is the proximity in timing to the disappearance of the San-Ho class submarines, as well as the digital transmission. It is important to point out that the Sang-Ho submarines in question were effectively purpose built for covert insertion of small teams ofNorth Korean Maritime Commandos who are part of North Korea’s much lauded Special Operations Force. So at this moment there is a covert North Korean force apparently heading for South Korea.

The Sang-Ho submarines can carry as many as 30 commandos per submarines giving the current submarines a combined force of around 60 troops. Those 60 troops are specially trained to carry out behind enemy lines covert actions such as sabotage and assassinations. So in this case the numbers station was most likely broadcasting a special code to North Korean operatives to announce the impending arrival of the covert operations teams.

The Digital Transmission

What is more significant is the digital signal at the end of the transmission. Digital transmissions such as this one may indicate the presence of a burst transmission which contains a compressed and encrypted message bound for some covert force, somewhere. Typically a burst transmission is used to minimize the download time at the end point to prevent discovery. The unusual part of this potential burst transmission is being attached to a numbers station as well as the length and the power of the broadcast. Normal burst transmissions are in the one second to two second range. This transmission was in the 10 to 15 second range which is almost unheard of, unless the end point is a submarine.


The ham operator who picked up this particular transmission was located in the Midwest of the United States, and he reported the transmission was received 4 by 5 indicating a significant power was used to send the transmission. That level of power coupled with the length and possible submarine end point opens up a new and alarming tangent to this escalating conflict. It is important to point out that the numbers are being read in Spanish but that is typically done to confuse the original source of the transmission. In this case the transmission was detected on a upper side band of the AM range used by the Voice of Korea so while the numbers are Spanish the transmission does appear to originate in North Korea. That fact coupled with the missing submarines seems to provide evidence of the nature of the transmission despite being in Spanish. Its also important to note that the numbers being in Spanish could also be used to employ a different set of codes in the operatives code books.

Now the really alarming part, if the submarines and number station wasn’t alarming enough. One of the things that hasn’t been discussed in mainstream news is the fact that North Korea has between 22 to 24 diesel electric submarines of the Romeo Class. These subs, which are heavily antiquated and for the most part decommissioned, are capable of open ocean missions. They have also been successfully retrofitted to carry a small anti-ship cruise missile, actually six of those missiles and while the YJ-8, the missile used for those retrofits, is an anti-ship missile (similar to the Exocet in use) they could carry a conventional warhead used to hit a building, damage a runway or some other kind of ground based target. But its not beyond the pale to suggest that the warhead could be modified to carry a more interesting payload and it is important to remember that North Korea does have one of the largest chemical weapons stockpiles in the world. The submarine in question also has a range of over 9,000 miles but a top speed of 8 knots which is fairly slow. Its also a diesel so the submarine would would have to run on the surface to recharge batteries of let off exhaust from its engines which is a byproduct of their origin which was late war German U-Boats. Its also important to note that Romeo Class submarines which have been retrofitted must fire their missiles from the surface.

We don’t currently know if any of the Romeo Class submarines are missing, and if they are where they are going or even if they have been retrofitted but if they have then they represent a significant risk to Japan, Guam and even the western coast of the United States. As I said it’s impossible to know if that is the game plan but experts I consulted seem to believe that a burst of that size and power would be destined for a submarine be it Sang-Ho or Romeo Class.

All things being equal the transmission could have also been destined for the commando forces aboard the Sang-Ho submarines, which we know from news reports are at sea, or targeted for the operatives that will be meeting the covert operations teams on their arrival.

At this point we only have the transmission to go on, but its ramifications are both interesting and alarming at the same time. The transmission and the missing submarines also indicate a significant escalation in the deteriorating Korean political situation. Given the deadline North Korea has issued for embassies to shutdown and their staffs to depart we will soon find out.

Tune into Ground Zero Radio Tuesday 4.9.13 – Clyde Lewis will be doing a special show on Numbers Stations and we will be discussing this evolving story.

The Transmission

Thanks again to Tim for finding this broadcast and bringing it to our attention, and as with all things like this please do your own research and come to your own conclusions. What I have provided here is just a few of the possible scenarios gleaned from research and the news of the day but it is by no means the only option. The information presented is fairly easy to find with some good keyword searching on your favorite search engine as well as the Wikipedia and FAS.org. So trust no one and make your own final decisions.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Technical
KEYWORDS: korea; media; military; nkwar; northkorea; obama; radio; shortwave
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The part about subs being the intended recipients seems dubious to me. It's more likely that the South Koreans are sending messages to their agents in North Korea. Any insights from you radio enthusiants among us?
1 posted on 04/09/2013 6:18:35 PM PDT by matt1234
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To: matt1234

Bump


2 posted on 04/09/2013 6:19:29 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: matt1234

An insane nation with WWII submarines and WWII tanks...

And we let them develop nukes.


3 posted on 04/09/2013 6:22:28 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: matt1234

Tomorrow is NK Commie D-Day... check that. It is already the 10th of April on that side of the world.


4 posted on 04/09/2013 6:23:27 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: matt1234

Its more likely NK doing this.


5 posted on 04/09/2013 6:25:00 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: matt1234; AlexW

ping


6 posted on 04/09/2013 6:25:45 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: matt1234

Spooky. What are they up to?


7 posted on 04/09/2013 6:26:07 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: matt1234

Loose lips sink ships.. If it’s NK transmission, no worries. Team 0bama is all over it. /s


8 posted on 04/09/2013 6:26:59 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: matt1234

bmark


9 posted on 04/09/2013 6:28:30 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: matt1234
the article says they are originating in NK...

continuous transmission by numbers stations are likely following the old Soviet example of continuous transmission along the fire chain of missile bases, that way you never know when they are going on alert like you would if everything was always quiet then all of a sudden message traffic starts up and down the fire chain telling you something is up

10 posted on 04/09/2013 6:30:41 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: matt1234

4 8 15 16 23 42.


11 posted on 04/09/2013 6:35:38 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: matt1234; Texas Fossil

Your input would be appreciated.


12 posted on 04/09/2013 6:41:17 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: matt1234

Power went out earlier. Thought maybe Kim had slipped one through.


13 posted on 04/09/2013 6:42:04 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Chode
the article says they are originating in NK...

Not exactly. It says the transmission was on a frequencey normally used by the NORKs. That doesn't necessarily mean the transmission originated in N. Korea. (Shortwave transmitters commonly step on each others' frequencies when they are hostile to one another.) I do not believe a single, amatuer HAM/shortwave receiver could determine the originating location.

14 posted on 04/09/2013 6:42:43 PM PDT by matt1234
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To: matt1234

D-R-I-N-K.M-O-R-E.O-V-A-L-T-I-N-E.


15 posted on 04/09/2013 6:43:27 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: matt1234
i think the NORK's would be screaming bloody murder about their propaganda station being jammed if it wasn't them them...
16 posted on 04/09/2013 6:44:31 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

17 posted on 04/09/2013 6:45:00 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: matt1234

Kim has a rong mustache.


18 posted on 04/09/2013 6:52:45 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Kartographer

‘Your input would be appreciated.’

My team of crypto-experts have been pouring over the codes and this is what we have so far...

D R I N K Y O U R O V A _ _ _ _ _

So far, that is all we have been able to determine. Hopefully, the coming hours will include the breaking of the complete code.


19 posted on 04/09/2013 6:53:41 PM PDT by Delta Dawn
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To: 2banana

And the phone rings at 3:00 am...

I wonder how those libs in California are feeling about now.


20 posted on 04/09/2013 6:54:11 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: SpaceBar

lol

Thank you.


21 posted on 04/09/2013 6:55:12 PM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: SpaceBar

im so rooney, so very rooney.....


22 posted on 04/09/2013 6:57:22 PM PDT by njslim (St)
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To: Kartographer

I have not notice anything out of the ordinary, but not that active lately. Family member health issues have my time filled.


23 posted on 04/09/2013 7:02:14 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

Praying for you and your family


24 posted on 04/09/2013 7:03:09 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Jeff Winston

25 or 6 2 4


25 posted on 04/09/2013 7:05:00 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: matt1234
Determine source? Not accurately, but the Military can in some cases.

I saw an event several years ago where a bogus distress sig was sent by a man in FL trying to convince others he was in distress at sea. After the fact, someone regurgitated the RF spectrum in 3-D (triangulation) and determined his location. Shut him down. There are strange things that do not appear possible that are.

26 posted on 04/09/2013 7:06:59 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Jeff Winston

NOOOOO!!!!!!


27 posted on 04/09/2013 7:11:59 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: BenLurkin

In what state are you? Ours went out, too. (I thought the same thing about the UN-one.)


28 posted on 04/09/2013 7:13:10 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: matt1234

Obama partying on the eve of the threat.


29 posted on 04/09/2013 7:18:48 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: Red Steel

“Tomorrow is NK Commie D-Day... check that. It is already the 10th of April on that side of the world.”

There’s that 9 number again that Chia Boy is obsessed with.
4/10/13 = 4+1+1+3 = 9

Their satellite passes over the US twice tomorrow night.


30 posted on 04/09/2013 7:18:54 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: tsowellfan

Thank you very much for your prayers. They help and are appreciated here.


31 posted on 04/09/2013 7:21:15 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: matt1234

It is psychological warfare, nothing more. The reason being is that voice transmissions (even ssb) on commericial frequencies is just saying “here I am, look at me”, and is incredibly inefficient for all but the most basic communication. There exist a myriad of off-the-shelf technologies that would be orders of magnitude more secure, resistant to detection and/or decryption, and of higher data throughput. Slow narrow-band mfsk or differential psk (like good old psk31) using hard encryption and turbo code forward error correction, frequency hopping and orthogonal coded spread spectrum using low power to keep it below the noise floor, packet bursts on psuedorandom agreed frequencies, the list goes on. Reading numbers on the air is like those “spy cameras” from the cold war that look clumsy and dorky by today’s standards. And there are better frequencies, like VLF for subs, and the mid-HF range for reliable NVIS (near vertical incident skywave) point-to-point communication. It’s all bluster and psyops.


32 posted on 04/09/2013 7:22:36 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: All

No problem, we can all sit it out in the public bomb shelters our government has made for us like the Russians have for their citizens.


33 posted on 04/09/2013 7:23:06 PM PDT by RHS Jr (Pity the banksters when Jesus comes)
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To: matt1234

“The ham operator who picked up this particular transmission was located in the Midwest of the United States, and he reported the transmission was received 4 by 5 indicating a significant power was used to send the transmission.”

The so called dead N Korean satellite is coming up over the midwest tonight.
http://www.n2yo.com/?s=39026


34 posted on 04/09/2013 7:23:35 PM PDT by Selene
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To: matt1234

Bookmark


35 posted on 04/09/2013 7:26:14 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: knarf; matt1234

I have no radio equipment here, but finding a signal on just high frequency alone would be looking for a needle in a hay stack.
It would also be encrypted and certainly not in English.


36 posted on 04/09/2013 7:27:13 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: Selene

Whoa!


37 posted on 04/09/2013 7:28:25 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: matt1234
Interesting. No news stories on this yet. Just this one report.

Well, we can revisit that contrail/missilelaunch off the California coast again, but hey,

what difference would it make ?

38 posted on 04/09/2013 7:40:27 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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39 posted on 04/09/2013 7:44:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Mortrey

Here, too. SW WI. We are having a storm, w/tornadoes to our West and North. Went out for a few seconds, came back on and went out again, then back on and is ok, now.


40 posted on 04/09/2013 7:56:12 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: BenLurkin

Clear for now. Over LV in about an hour.


41 posted on 04/09/2013 7:56:45 PM PDT by Selene
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To: SpaceBar
And there are better frequencies, like VLF for subs,

That is why I suspected the transmission was not directed to subs. Why would they transmit to subs on a SW freq?

However, I can still imagine agents receiving instructions via numeric codes on SW freqs. I have a copy of Passport to Worldband Radio 2009 that shows how N. Korean agents receive instructions this way. Also, I have heard numeric codes in plain voice (Spanish) on SW freqs before.

Of course the actual, intended recipient is speculation on my part.

42 posted on 04/09/2013 8:25:32 PM PDT by matt1234
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To: Nik Naym
Ah, the vaunted "Chicago" code.

CC

43 posted on 04/09/2013 8:27:37 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Hey liberals, what part of "unalienable" don't you understand?)
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To: SunkenCiv

That was back in January.

May not be what Rand Paul is saying now.

I find Geraldo to be grating no matter what he says.


44 posted on 04/09/2013 8:34:11 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: matt1234
Submarine carries a nuke and 'sneaks' to mexico.

Nuke unloaded in Mexico, and is loaded on a plane.

The plane flies to the middle of the country, setting off an EMP.

45 posted on 04/09/2013 8:42:33 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (Those who say the Constitution is a "Living, Breathing Document" do so because they want to KILL it.)
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To: matt1234
I really do have to get a shortwave tranceiver.
46 posted on 04/09/2013 8:44:25 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Captainpaintball

To get serious EMP effects, you have to detonate above 150 miles. No airplane can do that.


47 posted on 04/09/2013 8:56:37 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: matt1234

Well you just bring it to the Washington coast, dude. You won’t be there long.


48 posted on 04/09/2013 8:58:24 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Colorado Doug

My neighbors fifty years ago built a bomb shelter back in the Cuban missile crisis days. Wonder if it’s still standing.


49 posted on 04/09/2013 9:02:38 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Alas Babylon!; American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Ax; Azeem; ...

MI / SOCOM Ping


50 posted on 04/09/2013 9:42:58 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Don't assume Shahanshah Obama will allow another election.)
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